National director of programs for the Boy Scouts of America has been charged with

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Binney:
The national director of programs for the Boy Scouts of America has been charged with receiving and distributing child pornography:eek:

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Notice they were pics of males. One more proof that SSAD is a real problem and needs to be addressed.
 
This appears to be a huge problem that knows no boundary.
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fix:
Notice they were pics of males. One more proof that SSAD is a real problem and needs to be addressed.
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Binney:
The national director of programs for the Boy Scouts of America has been charged with receiving and distributing child pornography
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Damn. As the father of two Eagle Scouts, both Order of the Arrow, I’m so sad.
 
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fix:
Yes, there is increasing awarness of this deviancy.
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Like DUH, there is a REASON not to have homosexuals in Boy Scouts. Does anyone know how they found the guy?

Lisa N
 
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fix:
Notice they were pics of males. One more proof that SSAD is a real problem and needs to be addressed.
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Here we go again. NO, it did not say they were pics of males, it said:
the pictures did not show boys who were with the Boy Scouts organization
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Which means he may well have been heterosexual as homosexual, neither you or I know. Your letting your prejudices show again fix, still makes me wonder what you are running from?
 
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Norwich:
Here we go again. NO, it did not say they were pics of males, it said:

Which means he may well have been heterosexual as homosexual, neither you or I know. Your letting your prejudices show again fix, still makes me wonder what you are running from?
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Quite honestly I read it the same way fix read it. Why would there be reference to ‘boys not from BSA’ if the photos were not of young males? I would bet money Norwich that the photos are of boys not girls. The reference to oral sex is another giveaway. Maybe we can confirm or deny this conclusion with more detail but I do not think that either fix or I are running from something. We have just come to what SEEMS to be a logical conclusion.

Lisa N
 
I have to agree with Norwich on this one. If they specifically say oral, but then simply mention intercourse without any modifier, I assume it’s probably not anal, but rather “normal” run of the mill intercourse, to the extent that such a thing can exist for these victimized children. Now it wouldn’t surprise me if this guy had both gay and straight pornography in his possession, but if only one is involved, I think the better guess is straight based on the article.
Lisa N:
Does anyone know how they found the guy?
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From ABC News:
Tip From German Authorities U.S. customs and immigration agents began investigating Smith last year after German authorities in Frankfurt tipped them off to his alleged ties to an Internet child pornographer.
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Customs agents connected the child porngraphy to an e-mail address which was traced to Smith. He was arrested as part of an international crackdown on Internet child pornography that has netted 5,000 suspects so far.
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Lisa N:
Quite honestly I read it the same way fix read it. Why would there be reference to ‘boys not from BSA’ if the photos were not of young males? I would bet money Norwich that the photos are of boys not girls. The reference to oral sex is another giveaway. Maybe we can confirm or deny this conclusion with more detail but I do not think that either fix or I are running from something. We have just come to what SEEMS to be a logical conclusion.

Lisa N
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No, you’ve come to a prejudiced conclusion. The reference to boy scouts clearly indicates that his perversion did not involve the scouting movement. The further references to penetrative sex, not anal, not boys, also indicates a strong female content. Do you or fix really think the press would give up the chance of a banner headline decrying a leader of the scouting movement indulging in underaged gay sex if they had the opportunity?

I am in no way defending the guy, I think his actions are sick and to be condemned outright but, he should be condemned for what he has done, not for what some would like to think he has done. I always thought that was the basis of good law, to be convicted on the fact, not on a fancy!
 
Burn him, put him in a shredder, and spread him out over a lake for fishfood. Doesn’t matter if he is Gay or not.
 
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Norwich:
No, you’ve come to a prejudiced conclusion. The reference to boy scouts clearly indicates that his perversion did not involve the scouting movement. The further references to penetrative sex, not anal, not boys, also indicates a strong female content. Do you or fix really think the press would give up the chance of a banner headline decrying a leader of the scouting movement indulging in underaged gay sex if they had the opportunity?

I am in no way defending the guy, I think his actions are sick and to be condemned outright but, he should be condemned for what he has done, not for what some would like to think he has done. I always thought that was the basis of good law, to be convicted on the fact, not on a fancy!
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I can’t believe i am gonna say this…I agree with norwich.

They ariticle implicated boys and girls in the pictures. I still think he should be scourged at the pillar within an inch of his life…if he had acted upon his urges, then of course only death will do…
 
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TheGarg:
I can’t believe i am gonna say this…I agree with norwich.

They ariticle implicated boys and girls in the pictures. I still think he should be scourged at the pillar within an inch of his life…if he had acted upon his urges, then of course only death will do…
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Bloody Hell!!!, I’m gobsmacked!!!:bigyikes:
 
Lisa N:
Quite honestly I read it the same way fix read it. Why would there be reference to ‘boys not from BSA’ if the photos were not of young males?

Lisa N
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Now that is really an odd question!
Of course, when a boy scouts leader is charged with child abuse, everybody’s first thought of course is “did he abuse boy scouts”, and the article says NO, “the pictures did not show boys who were with the Boy Scouts organization”

So maybe the pitures showed girls instead?

The article on the other side talks about children engaging in intercourse wich for me sounds verrrrrry heterosexual!

Werner
 
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Richardols:
Damn. As the father of two Eagle Scouts, both Order of the Arrow, I’m so sad.
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As a former Eagle Scout and Order of the Arrow, I am p!$$ed off.
 
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Norwich:
No, you’ve come to a prejudiced conclusion. The reference to boy scouts clearly indicates that his perversion did not involve the scouting movement. The further references to penetrative sex, not anal, not boys, also indicates a strong female content. Do you or fix really think the press would give up the chance of a banner headline decrying a leader of the scouting movement indulging in underaged gay sex if they had the opportunity?

I am in no way defending the guy, I think his actions are sick and to be condemned outright but, he should be condemned for what he has done, not for what some would like to think he has done. I always thought that was the basis of good law, to be convicted on the fact, not on a fancy!
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Norwich I was simply pointing out that fix’s conclusion was possibly reasonable and not based on homophobic bigotry as your response seemed to indicate (“what are you running from”). On re-reading the article, I think one could quite reasonable come to either conclusion, that the children were males or males and females. I do not think the photos were exclusively female because I suspect they would have said so specifically (also the oral sex reference made me think of males). We may not get the details but I simply wanted to point out that the same statement can be read and interpreted in several ways.

Oddly enough this man headed up the BSA in my hometown for many years before ending up at BSA national HQ. BSA officials in town were quick to point out that he did NOT interact with children in his capacity as an official for the organization. However he was known here as “a family man.”

THere is something truly sick about kiddie porn and sadly the internet that has so many wonderful possibilities is making it even more accessible.

Lisa N
 
Lisa N:
Norwich I was simply pointing out that fix’s conclusion was possibly reasonable and not based on homophobic bigotry as your response seemed to indicate (“what are you running from”). On re-reading the article, I think one could quite reasonable come to either conclusion, that the children were males or males and females. I do not think the photos were exclusively female because I suspect they would have said so specifically (also the oral sex reference made me think of males). We may not get the details but I simply wanted to point out that the same statement can be read and interpreted in several ways.

Oddly enough this man headed up the BSA in my hometown for many years before ending up at BSA national HQ. BSA officials in town were quick to point out that he did NOT interact with children in his capacity as an official for the organization. However he was known here as “a family man.”

THere is something truly sick about kiddie porn and sadly the internet that has so many wonderful possibilities is making it even more accessible.

Lisa N
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Indeed. The article did not say either way, but given the state of things today, and the wording of the piece, it is not unreasonable to assume SSA.

Norwich seems to be blind to the tsunami of “gay” perversion in our culture.
 
FWIW I just heard a news report stating that over 500 images of minors were on his computer and they were “mostly of young boys although not boys within the scouting program…”

There was a side comment that there was no evidence that he had TAKEN the photos.

Lias N
 
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