National Survey Results: What We Learned About Latin Mass Attendees

[AlNg]

According to the study referenced by this survey we’re discussing, 22%. Why do you ask?

Since it is a mortal sin to miss Mass on Sundays without a good excuse, I was wondering why such a small number of Roman Catholics go to Mass regularly unless they do not take mortal sin seriously. Not taking mortal sin seriously, might explain why so many Roman Catholics polled in this survey would express approval of contraception, abortion and homosexual “marriage”. 67% of US Catholics approve “gay” marriage. But in Eastern Orthodox countries it is a much lower percentage of approval:
Romania 26%
Bulgaria 18%
Greece 26%
Russian Federation 5%

 

[Flopfoot]

Yeah, the west has been poisoned by the culture - we’ve particularly been harmed in and out of the church by a belief in moral relativism - but that’s beyond the scope of this study

If you look at the first paragraph in the introduction, the study is concerned with variations between people who attend the TLM and NOM, not comparing the east and the west

 

[_Abyssinia]

The Catholic Herald also covered the study results. Here is an excerpt from the article:

The authors found that 99 per cent of Catholics who attend the TLM fulfil their weekly obligation, compared to just 22 per cent of those who go to the NOM. Ninety-eight per cent also go to Confession at least once a year along with weekly Mass, compared to 25 per cent of NOM attendees.
The survey also found that TLM attendees are far more sympathetic to Church teaching on moral issues. Just two per cent of Catholics who attend the TLM approve of contraception, one per cent approve of abortion, and two per cent support same-sex marriage.

In contrast, previous surveys suggest 89 per cent of NOM attendees approve of contraception, 51 per cent support abortion, and 67 per cent support same-sex marriage.

Fr Kloster said that through more than 20 years celebrating both forms of the Roman Rite, he noticed differences between the congregations. The survey, he said, “reveals a striking variance between Catholics attending the TLM versus those who attend the NOM. These differences are dramatic when comparing beliefs, church attendance, monetary generosity, and fertility rates.”

Women who attend the TLM have a fertility rate of 3.6, compared to 2.3 for NOM women.

“Importantly, TLM families have a nearly 60% larger family size,” Fr Kloster added. “This will translate to a changing demographic within the Church.”

“TLM attendees donate 5 times more in the collection, indicating that they are far more invested than the NOM attendees. TLM Catholics go to Mass every Sunday at 4.5 times the rate of their NOM brethren. This implies a deep commitment to the faith. The almost universal adherence to the Sunday Mass obligation depicts Catholics who are deeply in love with their faith and cannot imagine missing their Sunday privilege.”

https://catholicherald.co.uk/news/2...ttendees-more-devout-and-orthodox-study-says/

 

[OraLabora]

It doesn’t matter who reports it, it is still a flawed study that compares regular Sunday mass attendees with those who attend sporadically. Compare the 22% who attend Mass in the OF every Sunday with those who attend the EF every Sunday, and the results are likely to be much different.

Also 22% of OF regular attendees is going to be a larger absolute number of Catholics than 98% of a Mass that isn’t widely available.

If 22% of US Catholics attend the OF every Sunday, that’s 15 million Catholics in the pews of the OF every Sunday, plus a bunch more who don’t regularly attend.

As opposed to 100,000 who attend the EF on any given Sunday.

There is no causal relationship in the Mass form that would explain the stats for the EF. The fact is that the vast majority of Catholics attend the OF. Of those, 22% are sufficiently orthodox in their faith to attend every Sunday; 15 million folks to be precise. As opposed to 100,000 who make the detour to an EF Mass.

 

[Mark121359]

It doesn’t matter who reports it, it is still a flawed study that compares regular Sunday mass attendees with those who attend sporadically.

Not so fast! This poll by Pew measures those who attend Mass weekly. Among their findings; 50% of Catholics who attend Mass weekly do not consider homosexual acts sinful. 45 % do not consider contraception sinful.

Where the Public Stands on Religious Liberty vs. Nondiscrimination

The U.S. public expresses a clear consensus on the contentious question of whether employers who have religious objections to contraception should be required to provide it in health insurance plans for their employees.

www.pewforum.org

 

[Babaganoush]

There are several problems with the study. The most important issue is that they compare tlm attendees to basically anyone who identifies as catholic. A better approach would be to compare weekly attendees of both. But still you have a problem of access. People generally attend the tlm because they aren’t satisfied with the nom. It is people seeking out a particular community. There is no surprise that those who are part of a community they sought out agree more fully with that community. In fact that is exactly what you would expect. So what you have is some sort of selection bias. You have chosen from a set that is going to give you the responses you expect them to give you.

A part of the problem is that the nom is far more accessible. If it was flipped and the tlm was very accessible and you had to drive an hour to attend an nom mass you might find the exact opposite correlation; that those who regularly attended the nom were far more likely to agree with the doctrine of the community.

 

[yankeesouth]

CH: Traditional Latin Mass attendees more devout and orthodox, study says. Wherein Fr. Z rants.

From the Catholic Herald. My emphases and comments: Traditional Latin Mass attendees more devout and orthodox, study says A new survey suggests Catholics who attend the Old Rite are more faithful to Church teaching Catholics in the US who attend the traditional Latin Mass a far more faithful to C

wdtprs.com

For years I have talked about the future of the Novus Ordo and the TLM, the roles they would play. Summorum Pontificum was, therefore, a game changer. It was probably the signal most important legislative move that Benedict XVI made, and he did it according to what I for years have called his “Marshall Plan” for the rebuilding the Church in the wake of post-Conciliar devastation and against the onslaught of the dictatorship of relativism.

 

[tafan2]

I believe the numbers for the TLM attendees. But as others have said, unless you have a poll of NO attendees who go to mass every week, the comparison is absurd.