NBC coverage of Olympics was lousy

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Why would it be sad? We just have great taste in sports, of which football will always reign supreme. Beats that little kickball game they play elsewhere.
If it was that great, I think it would have spread to and accepted by most other countries by now, but that is not the case, our soccer is actually football, our football does not have a name in those countries (that I know of anyway).

It really doesnt effect me at all though, I dont really care for football, or soccer.
 
Different opinions for different people - but the same outcome 😉

My husband and I personally were turned completely off the coverage specifically because of all the attention given to figure skating instead of bob sledding, skiing, hockey and curling. And no - we don’t have cable, so couldn’t go to whatever “other” channel they decided to air those one. Wish they’d have moved all figure skating to the “other” coverage and put all the bob sledding, skiing, speed skating, and, yes, curling on the prime time show 🙂
Figure skating is were the ratings are. If you were looking for live coverage, NBCSN on cable or www.nbcolympics.com for streaming online is were to go.
 
I can’t stand NBC coverage. I hope that in two years there will be an internet option that gets me away from them. Sports? Don’t make me laugh. What the do is get clips and package it with fluff in some sort of quasi-sport reality show. The only sport I get is predicting from the fluff who will win before the competition, as they always fluff with fore-shadowing. Horrible coverage.

Don’t read. Problem solved.
I guess I am lucky to live near the Canadian border where we can watch some sane coverage once and a while. Oh course, the Canadian athletes are featured but when one needs a sanity break from the stupidity of the American coverage, there is relief. One does learn incredible discussion of hockey. Now I understand why hockey borders on a national religion and Canadians are born with skates on.
 
Why would it be sad? We just have great taste in sports, of which football will always reign supreme. Beats that little kickball game they play elsewhere.
do you mean soccer? those are fighting words in my house! 😃
 
Figure skating is were the ratings are. If you were looking for live coverage, NBCSN on cable or www.nbcolympics.com for streaming online is were to go.
But where I live NBCSN is a digital cable station and to view live streaming you needed an existing cable package. I watched CBC which generally had better commentary.

NBC did invest a lot in figure skating in Sochi. I counted 7 different people doing commentary or something for NBC for events and features and there might have been more.
 
I didn’t watch much. Ihave no cable.I lost access to CBC when tv went HD I could no longer get Windsor channel 9. I use to watch that more than the American networks /. One reason is that the commentators didn’t have the need to feel every moment with babble. They let me just watch sometimes.

This year I was happy to be able to watch what I missed on line (I go to bed early) Ooops no can do. Now to watch NBC on line I had to give them my “tv provider”. Rabbit ears were not an option I could chose. So I never did see the opening ceromonies or any of the events that they wait to 11:00 to show that I already knew how it ended. I didn’t mind when I was asked to give my provider to watch espn on line since it is a cable channel. But both ABC and NBC have started this for over the air shows.

Maybe I will pay for Tunnel bear or the like next time so I can pretend I live over the border and sign into CBC dot Ca
 
NBC did invest a lot in figure skating in Sochi. I counted 7 different people doing commentary or something for NBC for events and features and there might have been more.
One 30 second commercial in prime time paid the salaries of all seven of them and their staff. They probably had fifty million viewers for the ladies figure skating, most of them the spendthrift young. Advertisers will pay millions to reach them.

I can’t imagine what they did with that money.
It’s not like they desperately needed it. They could have tripled their Olympic coverage air time instead of showing the usual junk, and tripled their commercials.
 
Do they still show Wimbledon on network TV? In the past it would preempt regular programming but I don’t know if it still does. There are significant differences but if Wimbledon, which happens every year, can preempt regular programming it seems like the Olympics could be too. They can still do the highlights during primetime or whatever but increase live events. NBC had four or five separate stations on which it could have been showing events and the majority of the time it read Non Olympic Programming Non Olympic Programming Non Olympic Programming Non Olympic Programming Non Olympic Programming Non Olympic Programming Non Olympic Programming Non Olympic Programming Non Olympic Programming…
 
Not to derail this thread, but have you read “Cracks in the Ice” by Deanna Klingel? It’s a YA book about a Mafia princess who dreams of becoming a professional ice skater. It is a 2013 recipient of the Catholic Writers Guild Seal of Approval. It’s a fascinating look at the life of a young skater and an entertaining read! I haven’t had a chance to read your books yet, Cat, but I’m certain I’ll enjoy them (once I get a handle on everything else I have going on… but they’re on my list!)

And now, back to the Olympics discussion! 👍
This sounds good. Thanks for the recommendation.

My books are extremely positive about the sport of figure skating. One of the things I noticed in many of the juvenile figure skating books (and also the adult books) is a tendency to major on the bad things–the overly-aggressive parents, the pervert coaches, the snotty kids, the kids with eating disorders, the heartbreaks.

I have a little of that in my books because I took them from real-life, and yes, bad things happen at rinks. But I would say that 90% of my stories is positive stuff: good coaches who truly care for their students, good parents who find a balance between getting involved with their skating club and allowing the professional coaches to do their job, good kids who love to skate and are friendly and well-balanced, and good experiences at competitions–not necessarily wins, but fun, friendship, and memories that help a child grow up to be a good person.

IMO, it’s all about balance–funny term to use for figure skating in particular, but it’s actually true for any sport or any activity that we get our children or ourselves involved in. There HAS to be balance–a healthy mix of training/practice with mundane chores and regular activities. That’s what I try to aim for in my novels. The characters go to school, go to the Char-Grill, have boyfriends (or wish they had boyfriends), go to CHURCH (Catholic and Protestant).

Anyway, thanks for the recommendation. I’ll check it out!
 
One 30 second commercial in prime time paid the salaries of all seven of them and their staff. They probably had fifty million viewers for the ladies figure skating, most of them the spendthrift young. Advertisers will pay millions to reach them.

I can’t imagine what they did with that money.
It’s not like they desperately needed it. They could have tripled their Olympic coverage air time instead of showing the usual junk, and tripled their commercials.
You really can’t imagine what they did with the money?

Think about the technology involved in covering multiple venues, including not only the sports venues, but the city of Sochi. I can’t even imagine the staggering cost of all this tech. I know how much it costs for us to set up a sound system and some lights for our local ice shows–often our skating club can’t afford it, and have to go with the simplest of tech, which means that our ice show is hard to hear and poorly-lit.

And think about all the techies required to design that technology, set it up, and maintain it! I’m guessing that there were thousands of techies, production assistants, etc. These people all had to have transportation, lodging, and board while they were in Sochi, and I’m sure that Olympic prices for these necessities didn’t come cheap.

And think about all the research–this involved arranging transportation and lodging in some very remote areas for a whole crew of journalists and technies. But the research for Sochi no doubt started years ago, when the city was awarded the Olympics by the IOC. Many of these sports have a long and storied history, and part of the coverage involved re-telling that history, and attempting to place the performances of the current athletes into historical perspective.

E.g., until recently, figure skating was judged by a completely different judging system. The International Judging System used now is a points system, which many viewers find incomprehensible and frustrating. (Under 6.0, there’s a good chance that Carolina Kostner would have won the Gold Medal, but it couldn’t happen under IJS–is that good or bad?)

These types of stories need to be presented during a broadcast of the Olympics so that viewers can understand the sport that they are watching. I realize that many sports fans want to see “just the sport, thank you,” but many of us who don’t understand curling or bob-sledding really do want to see the story behind the sport.

Here’s the deal everyone–in a few years, most of us will be watching sports online, not on a television. That’s what we do with figure skating–icenetwork broadcasts almost all of the major figure skating competitions held in the United States.

My husband and I will spend the weekend watching the National Championships of Synchronized Skating, which will be happening in Colorado Springs. We’ll be cheering for our daughter’s teams (St. Louis!), and for a lot of the teams that we have gotten to know and love over the years (Chicago Jazz! Chicago Radiance! Starlights! Dazzlers! Swan City Syncsation! etc. etc.!–too many to list!)

icenetwork will show the entire competition with very few adornments. We’ll even get to see 15 minutes every hour of the Zamboni making ice! It’s the real competition–all the noise from the audience, EVERY competitor, etc.

And it only costs $30.00 a year. That’s a lot of skating for $30. It enables us to be at skating competitions that we could never afford to attend in person.

And I think that’s the answer for those who want to see “just the sport, thank you.” Online broadcasting.

Anyway, I’m sure that all the money taken in by NBC barely covered the cost of broadcasting the Olys.

Unfortunately, in case you’re wondering, icenetwork is only U.S., not world, not yet.
 
You really can’t imagine what they did with the money?
Think about the technology involved in covering multiple venues, including not only the sports venues, but the city of Sochi. I can’t even imagine the staggering cost of all this tech. I know how much it costs for us to set up a sound system and some lights for our local ice shows–often our skating club can’t afford it, and have to go with the simplest of tech, which means that our ice show is hard to hear and poorly-lit.
And think about all the techies required to design that technology, set it up, and maintain it! I’m guessing that there were thousands of techies, production assistants, etc. These people all had to have transportation, lodging, and board while they were in Sochi, and I’m sure that Olympic prices for these necessities didn’t come cheap.
That was all done by the Russians.

Did you see those cameras mounted on tracks to follow cross country skiing and other outdoor sports? The Russians did that.
How about those “zip line” cameras for close up shots of the downhill skiers all the way downhill? The Russians.
How about the camera system for the bobsled track? The Russians.

All this camera information was passed on to NBC, **and all the other 140 countries that had television crews there ** :bigyikes: who would have filled the Sochi valleys with cameras and equipment if they each had to do it themselves.

During the 1984 Summer Olumpics in Los Angelos, athletes from other countries raised a big stink about the tv coverage concentrating on the American athletes. The Los Angelos officials said that continuous and full uneditted coverage of all events were constantly being sent out to all countries in the world to be used as they saw fit.

Except for live interviews of medal winning athletes, NBC could have broadcast the games from New York City.
 
And furthermore…!!! :bigyikes:

NBC said that before the closing ceremony tonight,
they will show a program about the Tonya Harding/Nancy Kerrigan scandal at the 1994 Winter Olympics. Believe it or not! :banghead: :takethat:

Now, friends, I was interested in the Tonya/Nancy thing at the time, and it gave me a kernel of an idea which through a long evolution eventually ended up as my book,
but I don’t want to see that stuff again, and I don’t think anybody else wants to either.

Why doesn’t NBC show us an hour of the skaters’ exhibition show? 😃

Oh, yeah. That would require intelligence which doesn’t exist at NBC. 😦

Next time, give the Olympics to ABC Sports. 👍
They did show an hour of the gala, it was on after prime time. And I thought that story of the adopted girl was very touching and a lovely pro-life message.
 
I think what most people dislike about the NBC coverage (and I remember ABC which I felt wasn’t much better) is that there is just too much fooling around with their command center hosts and the stupid side stories. Some of their experts were very good. The coverage of downhill skiing with the skiing expert explaining what went right or wrong or juxtaposing different races to show the differences was good. There is nothing wrong with featuring different athletes and their stories or consulting experts on some of the lessor known sports. But they go into the beyond to stupidity and medal count. Take ice dancing, they let cameras back stage to show the faces and reaction of the two main dance teams, then they hype the rivalry to the moon and in the process ignore some of the other teams there to compete as if that whole contest was just about two dance couples. Then you had the constant giggling of Tara Lipinski and Weir and what they were wearing as if anyone really cares. The Canadian coverage has featured athletes, expert explanations and analysis but not of the other silly stupidity that Olympic coverage has become. Likewise, there is the constant medal count as if someone didn’t get a gold medal, they somehow failed life. Can’t we just honor all the athletes whether they medal or not? Do we really need a camera to follow the gold medal teenage girl in figure skating running around in the back after she found out she won? Does it take a camera on her face to know what her reaction is going to be after winning gold? One of my favorite winter Olympic moments was in Calgary when that English guy decided to do ski jumping. That guy wasn’t going to win at all but he stoled the show. One watched just to see if he was going to kill himself. It was great and after all the hype and angst and effort, it was refreshing and funny to see someone try not to win but just because there was opportunity to do so and the loser ended up being the winner.
 
I think what most people dislike about the NBC coverage (and I remember ABC which I felt wasn’t much better) is that there is just too much fooling around with their command center hosts and the stupid side stories. Some of their experts were very good. The coverage of downhill skiing with the skiing expert explaining what went right or wrong or juxtaposing different races to show the differences was good. There is nothing wrong with featuring different athletes and their stories or consulting experts on some of the lessor known sports. But they go into the beyond to stupidity and medal count. Take ice dancing, they let cameras back stage to show the faces and reaction of the two main dance teams, then they hype the rivalry to the moon and in the process ignore some of the other teams there to compete as if that whole contest was just about two dance couples. Then you had the constant giggling of Tara Lipinski and Weir and what they were wearing as if anyone really cares. The Canadian coverage has featured athletes, expert explanations and analysis but not of the other silly stupidity that Olympic coverage has become. Likewise, there is the constant medal count as if someone didn’t get a gold medal, they somehow failed life. Can’t we just honor all the athletes whether they medal or not? Do we really need a camera to follow the gold medal teenage girl in figure skating running around in the back after she found out she won? Does it take a camera on her face to know what her reaction is going to be after winning gold? One of my favorite winter Olympic moments was in Calgary when that English guy decided to do ski jumping. That guy wasn’t going to win at all but he stoled the show. One watched just to see if he was going to kill himself. It was great and after all the hype and angst and effort, it was refreshing and funny to see someone try not to win but just because there was opportunity to do so and the loser ended up being the winner.
robwar, any skating fan who really wanted to see the entire competition without all the fluff could do so.

I’m not sure how to do it, because we are not that tech-savvy when it comes to broadcasting. But on the various skating forums and websites, the fans talked about viewing the entire competition live (they were up all night sometimes watching it!). So I know that there were broadcasts out there of the entire competition.

I am a pretty fanatical fan, and I will be watching the synchronized skating National Championships in their entirely this weekend (beginning this evening!) on icenetwork, but I am not willing to spend that much time watching the Olympic competitions in their entirety. I’m guessing that most skating fans feel the same way as I do, and the NBC broadcast was just fine for us. We saw the winners, we got a feeling for the atmosphere at the competition, and that was enough.

I would like to have seen more explanation of the IJS during the Olympics, but NBC and other networks have tried over and over again to explain that judging system, and people still don’t understand it and many of us dislike and distrust the system. I just read a fascinating analysis of the Ladies Singles event which pointed out (in slow motion) three technical miscalls, which would have made Carolina Kostner the clear winner. Grrr! Supposedly IJS was supposed to end this kind of nonsense, but obviously, it hasn’t.

Paul Wylie did a great job of explaining IJS a few years ago, and made it really simple, but people STILL don’t get it! So I think the TV networks have decided to just say nothing and hope this judging system goes away someday.

Anyway, entire events could be watched if someone wanted to watch them.
 
I agree that a lot of the coverage bordered on “reality show”… like when US skeleton competitor Kate Uhlaender went from medal to 4th place, losing by .02 of a second and they insisted on putting the camera in her face and asking her how she felt while the poor woman was doing her best to hold it together. “Tell me, Kate, are you thinking, ‘Four more years’?” I admire her for simply saying, “No, I’m thinking, ‘0.2 of a second’,” and not running off crying or shoving the camera out of her face.

Yes, it was great to see Noelle Pikus-Pace celebrate her silver so exuberantly, but let’s not revel in the misery of the athletes who fell short by a hairsbreadth. That’s like shoving a camera in the face of mourners at a funeral. Unfortunately, that’s what a lot of people are conditioned to expect.
 
robwar, any skating fan who really wanted to see the entire competition without all the fluff could do so.

I’m not sure how to do it, because we are not that tech-savvy when it comes to broadcasting. But on the various skating forums and websites, the fans talked about viewing the entire competition live (they were up all night sometimes watching it!). So I know that there were broadcasts out there of the entire competition.

I am a pretty fanatical fan, and I will be watching the synchronized skating National Championships in their entirely this weekend (beginning this evening!) on icenetwork, but I am not willing to spend that much time watching the Olympic competitions in their entirety. I’m guessing that most skating fans feel the same way as I do, and the NBC broadcast was just fine for us. We saw the winners, we got a feeling for the atmosphere at the competition, and that was enough.

I would like to have seen more explanation of the IJS during the Olympics, but NBC and other networks have tried over and over again to explain that judging system, and people still don’t understand it and many of us dislike and distrust the system. I just read a fascinating analysis of the Ladies Singles event which pointed out (in slow motion) three technical miscalls, which would have made Carolina Kostner the clear winner. Grrr! Supposedly IJS was supposed to end this kind of nonsense, but obviously, it hasn’t.

Paul Wylie did a great job of explaining IJS a few years ago, and made it really simple, but people STILL don’t get it! So I think the TV networks have decided to just say nothing and hope this judging system goes away someday.

Anyway, entire events could be watched if someone wanted to watch them.
Cat,
my comments are on the whole coverage not just skating and yes I know that is a sport you have been involved with. I am thinking of skiing and snowboarding etc and so on. I am looking at the bigger picture and whole thing. In skating in particular, I don’t think there needs to be a camera in the back to get reactions of skaters to performance of the other competitors nor does there need to be a camera in the face when there is a winner. Some of the analysis is a big improvement over the obnoxious Dick Burton and Peggy Flemming slobber fest and what i caught of ice dancing, I did hear clearly explained what judges look for in ice dancing with different moves etc. But having the Tara Lipinski giggle fest and fashion show is not needed. I remember Dick Burton saying once of some less known skating that he didn’t understand why they even bothered. So yes, there is some improvement in skating in some areas but not others. Most of us watching any of these sports are not exactly experts or in the know (like you are with skating) but just want to watch all the sports not the hyped up dramatics and giggles and stupidity that usually goes on with all of them.
 
Cat,
my comments are on the whole coverage not just skating and yes I know that is a sport you have been involved with. I am thinking of skiing and snowboarding etc and so on. I am looking at the bigger picture and whole thing. In skating in particular, I don’t think there needs to be a camera in the back to get reactions of skaters to performance of the other competitors nor does there need to be a camera in the face when there is a winner. Some of the analysis is a big improvement over the obnoxious Dick Burton and Peggy Flemming slobber fest and what i caught of ice dancing, I did hear clearly explained what judges look for in ice dancing with different moves etc. But having the Tara Lipinski giggle fest and fashion show is not needed. I remember Dick Burton saying once of some less known skating that he didn’t understand why they even bothered. So yes, there is some improvement in skating in some areas but not others. Most of us watching any of these sports are not exactly experts or in the know (like you are with skating) but just want to watch all the sports not the hyped up dramatics and giggles and stupidity that usually goes on with all of them.
I’m guessing that all the other sports probably had their online broadcasts, too. Their fans would know.

Dick Button is a two-time Olympic Gold medalist in Men’s Singles, one of the few skaters who has accomplished this feat. He is one of the greatest male skaters of all time, if not THE greatest male skater. (I disagree strongly with Scott Hamilton that Evgeny Plushenko is the greatest, and I think many others disagree, too.)

Button was the first to accomplish many of the triple jumps in competition, and many of the elements used in Singles skating were created by him. Much of the development of television figure skating broadcasts happened because of Dick Button. He was the best promotion agent ever for this sport.

The team of Dick Button and Peggy Fleming covered skating for most than two decades, and the chemistry between them was wonderful. They were there for many of the greatest moments in figure skating history, and communicated not only the facts to the fans, but also the feelings of those moments.

One of the reasons that synchronized skating has not developed a huge public fan base is that we don’t have a Dick Button to promote the sport. 😦 Wish we did. You might be watching synchronized skating on television this weekend if we had a Dick Button.
 
One of the reasons that synchronized skating has not developed
I’ve seen synchronized swimming. What’s synchronized skating?

Doesn’t seem like people could do it well enough to make it look good.
At least in synchronized swimming nobody falls on their keestah. :bigyikes: :rotfl:
 
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