NBC'a David Gregory Weapons Violation

[ProVobis]

From Wikipedia:

This is what you call strict? To park downtown will cost you about as much and they just raised the fees again.

I went to traffic court there once. Tons of people, and 99% get the “I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt” treatment from the judge. Line moves faster than a communion line.

 

[R1ch4rd]

This is what you call strict? To park downtown will cost you about as much and they just raised the fees again.

I went to traffic court there once. Tons of people, and 99% get the “I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt” treatment from the judge. Line moves faster than a communion line.

I hadn’t even considered the monitary aspect but:

An FOID card is required to purchase any gun (a check for mental stabillity, felony, illegal
immigrant, domestic abuse)
Any gun in Chicago must be registered
The owner of any gun in Chicago must complete a fireams safety couse
Background check and fingerprints must be submitted to police
Assault weapons are totally banned
Any magazine holding over ten rounds is banned
The gun is not allowed outside of the owners residence
If multiple guns are owned all but one must be locked
Cnceal/ Carry permits are not available and open carry is not allowed
The owner can be prosecuted if a minor under 14 gains access to his gun
Air rifles over .18 cal are regulated
There is no preemption (someone with a CC license valid in another state cannot bring a
firearm to Chicago)

Yes, I would call this fairly strict, what would your idea of strict be?

I’m not sure what the reference to traffic court has to do with firearms.

 

[ProVobis]

I’m not sure what the reference to traffic court has to do with firearms.

It shows the laws in Chicago don’t get enforced very well and the gangs all know it. My plumber’s son got shot twice in a crossfire between two gangs and is partially paralyzed from his wounds. And this was in the suburbs. The police didn’t even bother to investigate.

 

[R1ch4rd]

It shows the laws in Chicago don’t get enforced very well and the gangs all know it. My plumber’s son got shot twice in a crossfire between two gangs and is partially paralyzed from his wounds. And this was in the suburbs. The police didn’t even bother to investigate.

Then by your addmittance, the laws we have are adequate but the enforcement is at fault. From what I understand about gang shoot outs, they usually don’t inform the police where they plan on having it and investigating a gang shoot out is like a dog chasing his tail. I’m sure some investigation was done but when you know your wasting time, how far do you go with the resources on hand.

 

[ProVobis]

Then by your addmittance, the laws we have are adequate but the enforcement is at fault. From what I understand about gang shoot outs, they usually don’t inform the police where they plan on having it and investigating a gang shoot out is like a dog chasing his tail. I’m sure some investigation was done but when you know your wasting time, how far do you go with the resources on hand.

I’m not exactly saying that. Yes, it costs money to enforce the laws but that doesn’t mean you can’t have laws or that none of them work. Would you try to eliminate drug laws because none of them seem to work or the system doesn’t enforce them to the full extent of the law? Laws and restrictions still serve a purpose. If nothing else, they raise awareness of a problem.

 

[R1ch4rd]

I’m not exactly saying that. Yes, it costs money to enforce the laws but that doesn’t mean you can’t have laws or that none of them work.** Would you try to eliminate drug laws because none of them seem to work or the system doesn’t enforce them to the full extent of the law?** Laws and restrictions still serve a purpose. If nothing else, they raise awareness of a problem.

Isn’t this already happening in Colorado and Washington State? Marijuana users were overloading the justice system to the point that real criminals were slipping through the cracks. A law passed to merely raise awareness that can not be enforced is not really a law.

 

[ProVobis]

Isn’t this already happening in Colorado and Washington State? Marijuana users were overloading the justice system to the point that real criminals were slipping through the cracks. A law passed to merely raise awareness that can not be enforced is not really a law.

Yes, but in the case of Colorado and Washington, they are essentially giving blessings to the act. Not quite the same thing as having a law on the books which doesn’t for whatever reason get enforced. Not in my opinion anyway.

 

[shipwrkd]

Yes, but in the case of Colorado and Washington, they are essentially giving blessings to the act. Not quite the same thing as having a law on the books which doesn’t for whatever reason get enforced. Not in my opinion anyway.

Just sayin, in Colorado, you can purchase a handgun and carry it unconcealed without a license. Before marijuana was legalized, if you carried, you were breaking the law yet your chance of being charged were as slim as if you concealed the gun. Sounds the same to me.

 

[R1ch4rd]

Yes, but in the case of Colorado and Washington, they are essentially giving blessings to the act. Not quite the same thing as having a law on the books which doesn’t for whatever reason get enforced. Not in my opinion anyway.

You can purchase and carry a handgun unconcealed in Colorado without licenses or permits. If you conceal the gun and are caught it’s a misdemeanor. Before marijuana was legalized you couldn’t legally have any in your possession, also a misdemeanor, yet the chance of being arrested for either was slim. This sounds the same to me…just sayin.