Nc parishioners demand removal of pastor for defying ‘spirit of vatican ii’

[commenter]

Commenter, thank you for this. I live in a very liberal diocese and witnessed a priest’s removal from a parish. It was just one of many things I witnessed that made me veer off from it. Your concluding paragraph is hopeful.

But again, keep in mind there are at least 2 sides to a story. I hate to judge a situation from afar. Keep that parish in North Carolina in your prayers, as well as that parish you mentioned.
Nobody wins in these kinds of situations, except the media.

 

[Casilda]

The ship has already sailed on that one. The Church is not headed for great peril, the peril has already taken firm root. And while the discussions about trad this and liberal that go on ad nauseum, the world sinks and sinks. Catechesis? Who is even going to listen to catechesis from a Church with no singular identity? It’s a total free for all with no one who can legitimately assert any authority that very many will listen to, unless they happen to naturally agree.

She is taking on water faster than those scooping it out. There is a lot of dead weight, but new converts I know are bringing really big buckets

 

[revert_jen]

Nonsense. We have canon law, the GIRM and other documents regulating what happens at Mass for a reason. The GIRM prefers Gregorian chant. Does that make it compulsory? No. But if a priest chooses to use it, it is not a legitimate ground for anyone to be upset, because it is encouraged by the GIRM. Personal preferences are one thing, preferences given by the GIRM or other liturgical documents are a different matter. Its also a slippery slope. One day people are holding hands during the Our Father, next day you have a Clown Mass. There are no two ways about it, the priest in this story is a hero and is doing what the church wants.

Yes.

One thing I particularly noticed is that one of the complaints in the article is:

Attendees at one local civic leader’s funeral, which included a large number of non-Catholics, were told in the pastor’s homily about church teaching on purgatory and little or nothing about the life of the deceased.

This is an entirely correct homily. As the GIRM says:

382. At the Funeral Mass there should, as a rule, be a short homily, but never a eulogy of any kind.

The very next sentence in the article is:

They also said their pastor is slow to respond to requests for the sacrament of the sick for the dying.

The fact that the complained both about the first and the second makes it seem to me like they have no idea about what is supposed to happen. The second is, if true, very serious indeed, while the first would have been wrong if he had done it the way they wanted him to. It seems like they complained (as other posters have indicated) based on what they personally wanted, rather than what was actually wrong. It would be like me complaining to HR that my boss included a section about what I could improve on in my review and also that she made me work unreported overtime.* The first is something she is supposed to do, and the second is not only wrong but (I think) against the law.

Also, I don’t like to be harsh, but to me their case is weakened because they sent their “hundreds of pages of complaints” to NCR (at all) and the Apostolic Nuncio (before receiving a complete response from the Bishop). Their having publicized these complaints to inappropriate places speaks to me of a lack of goodwill and a desire for something (perhaps publicity?) other than a fix to the situation.

–Jen

*My boss does NOT make me work unreported overtime; that is just an example.

 

[Church_Militant]

I don’t see any of this sinking barque of Peter that some of you seem to. My parish is doing pretty well and is growing steadily. We have 2 of the holiest priests and a deacon I have ever met.

I don’t know what the rest of your people are seeing or doing wrong, but maybe it’s time to get yourselves in gear, doing your part for your parish and the Kingdom of God.

As for that one messed up parish…has anyone thought to pray for these folks (A Rosary or a Divine Mercy Chaplet since it’s a Jubilee Year of Mercy) instead of gossiping about them on a Catholic forum?
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