Near death experience can be real?

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Hi all,

I’m watching a lot of near death experiences of people that have seen Hell, Heaven and/ or Jesus and returned back to life for several reasons. Do you think this can be true? Their stories could be true or not?

Don
 
I’ve had a near death experience, and this is my take on it. I did not meet Jesus, God or see heaven or hell, but my experience had a number of factors that are common in NDE’s.

I think that it’s something our mind does under circumstances of stress, oxygen deprivation, and various other physical things that happen during such medical crises. If it were really visions of heaven/hell or truly the fate of the eternal soul after life on earth, I think there would be a greater similarities in those aspects of NDE’s.

They are real in the sense that the person having them truly does see/experience what they report, but they are not an accurate description of life after death. They are like dreams, they occur in the mind but not in a reality beyond that.
 
I think many or all of them are real. My father was in no way given to extravagant notions, but he experienced one as a young man. The details were exquisite and included information he could not possibly have known otherwise.
 
I read a few books - written by doctors - they certainly believe it.

On youtube, you gotta be careful - though
so much make believe and liars -
who knows why - maybe they’re lying for Jesus !

But I already firmly believe in Jesus - I don’t need that extra proof - lol
 
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If it were really visions of heaven/hell or truly the fate of the eternal soul after life on earth, I think there would be a greater similarities in those aspects of NDE’s.
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There are actually a great many similarities to Christian conception:

blog.magiscenter.com

Can Catholics Believe in Near Death Experiences?

An in-depth look into near-death experiences and where they fit into the Catholic Faith.
blog.magiscenter.com blog.magiscenter.com

 
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Actually, studies have been done on people who were clinically dead. See the extensive work of Dutch cardiologist Pim Van Lommel. People have these experiences, and in these studies, the patients were flatlined in brain activity as well as heart activity. They were dead and were revived. Moreover, whatever you see, feel, hear or touch is an experience. These too are experiences. I don’t know if they prove heaven or hell or anything about the afterlife, but they do suggest something about the locality of consciousness and gives some intimations that consciousness may survive death in some way or another. Most people are skeptics until they have an NDE, and then you can’t convince them that this world is any more real than the one they were in. That’s the experience, and no matter what dogma anyone follows, experience is what it’s all about. Being alive is an experience. If there is a heaven or hell, well those are experiences too. If you end up living through eternity with Jesus and the saints, that too is an experience. An NDE is also an experience and experience is all there is. I can’t see how we can assign values to any of it, other than if they are experienced, then they are valid experiences. All we can truly say is we really don’t understand any of it.
 
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I understand what you are getting at, but please don’t forget that the person doing the bringing back would be God. I think he has sufficiently proven his ability to raise the dead. And how he does it is well beyond the reach of science.
 
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Van Lommel’s work is extensive. You could read his studies, but this gives an easy overview:

 
I think some are, but some might be people looking to make a buck. There was that book “The boy who came back from heaven” that the author (the boy) later retracted and admitted was a lie. A lot of it is a mystery.

I do believe Father Steven Scheier, though. He doesn’t recall seeing anything, but he was in an accident and did remember that he had gone through judgment and was given mercy through Mary’s intercession.

 
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Yes, that is the direction for us Christians. This is why Fr. Spitzer says that NDE give proof for transcendence. His work on the subject is really very interesting. I highly recommend it.
 
DonQuichote1235 said:
Hi all,

I’m watching a lot of near death experiences of people that have seen Hell, Heaven and/ or Jesus and returned back to life for several reasons. Do you think this can be true? Their stories could be true or not?

Don
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I will not go into specifics, but having been a medic for a long time, I can tell you they are indeed real…
 
I think the studies I have cited and posted an easy YOUTUBE summary of involved the cessation of all brain activity. With regard to sleep paralysis, those too are experiences. I am not one to blow off any experience, because as I have explained, experience is all there is, so all experiences are worthy of our consideration. In my opinion at least.
 
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I’m watching a lot of near death experiences of people that have seen Hell, Heaven and/ or Jesus and returned back to life for several reasons. Do you think this can be true? Their stories could be true or not?
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I think it’s entirely possible. But I don’t see how there’s any way for us to be sure (this side of Heaven, anyway).
 
There are many NDEs that have experienced hellish places, and some say they saw hell itself, there are entire books about it
 
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I’ve had a near death experience, and this is my take on it. I did not meet Jesus, God or see heaven or hell, but my experience had a number of factors that are common in NDE’s.

I think that it’s something our mind does under circumstances of stress, oxygen deprivation, and various other physical things that happen during such medical crises. If it were really visions of heaven/hell or truly the fate of the eternal soul after life on earth, I think there would be a greater similarities in those aspects of NDE’s.

They are real in the sense that the person having them truly does see/experience what they report, but they are not an accurate description of life after death. They are like dreams, they occur in the mind but not in a reality beyond that.
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Just thinking out loud.

Maybe you thought you were in a NDE when in effect you weren’t .

God knows everything about everyone from beginning to end.
 
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While the Church doesn’t weigh in on NDE’s yeah or nay, they do that because the Church teaches definitively about heaven hell and purgatory. Technically we don’t need NDE"s as a teacher. We have the Church and we have scripture. That said,

There is NOTHING in this NDE that is against anything the Church or scripture teaches. Fr Joseph Mary Wolf of EWTN, gave this homily in mass, on Fr Jose’s NDE. Father Jose Maniyangat Story Hell,Heaven and Purgatory by father Mary Joseph in his homily. - YouTube

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As @Ardent_Fire posted earlier, of Fr Scheirer’s NDE, I saw that interview he had with Mother Angelica back when that interview took place. I have no reason to disbelieve any of what he said.
 
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