Need help getting the head nod and bows right

[netmilsmom]

Pariah Pirana:

And not a single one of them directs the faithful NOT to assume the orans position or the holding of hands…

And you are right because most Vatican directive tell that which we should do.
I was just sent this list of documents from my Uncle’s office which shows how many documents has to do with our behavior and that of a priest.
You can say that a document doesn’t state something, but if you can’t find a reference to that action in any of these, it should not be done.
Acronym
Document Name (Latin)
Common Name
Date Issued
CIC/83
Codex Iuris Canonici
Code of Canon Law
1983
ICP

 Instruction on Certain Questions Regarding the Collaboration of the Non-Ordained Faithful in the Sacred Ministry of Priest

1997
ID
Inaestimabile Donum

1980
GIRM

 General Instruction to the Roman Missal

1970
AGI

 Appendix to the General Instruction for Dioceses in the United States

1970???
PS
Paschales Solemnitatis
On the Preparation and Celebration of the Easter Feasts

1988
DC
Dominae Cenae
On the Mystery and Worship of the Eucharist

1980
MS
Misericordiam Suam
Introduction to the New Order of Penance

1974
HLS

 "This Holy and Living Sacrifice: Directory for the Celebration  and Reception of Communion under Both Kinds"

Issued by US Bishops and approved by Holy See

1984

Anyone can private mail me and I would be glad to give the references to each of these documents or ask any question’s of my Uncle’s office. I can get back to you on it next week or as soon as they can get the answer to me.

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[netmilsmom]

Mysty101:

Net,

You are quoting something besides Collaboration–please reference.

If this is not a liturgical document, then it is still an unofficial interpretation.

See post 60.

 

[Mysty101]

The GIRM referenced is outdated—it has been superceded by the 2002.

The other documents are also quite old—Given Pope Benedict’s love & support of the movements, I doubt he will ban the orans position or raising hands, which are very common in Charismatic worship.

 

[netmilsmom]

Mysty101:

The GIRM referenced is outdated—it has been superceded by the 2002.

However none of these quotes are from the GIRM

The other documents are also quite old—Given Pope Benedict’s love & support of the movements, I doubt he will ban the orans position or raising hands, which are very common in Charismatic worship.

Old still counts and there is no need for B16 to ban anything, only enforce.

 

[Mysty101]

netmil(name removed by moderator):

However none of these quotes are from the GIRM

Old still counts and there is no need for B16 to ban anything, only enforce.

I repeat

Given Pope Benedict’s love & support of the movements, I doubt he will ban the orans position or raising hands, which are very common in Charismatic worship.

 

[netmilsmom]

Mysty101:

I repeat " Given Pope Benedict’s love & support of the movements, I doubt he will ban the orans position or raising hands, which are very common in Charismatic worship. "

And I repeat as well, all he has to do is enforce the rules already there.
There’s no need to repeat, I got what you said the first time, otherwise I wouldn’t have replied.

B16 is not going to turn away any Catholic. He is not going to stop a Charistmatic mass. I feel this is a good thing.
However, the institutional Catholics are going to see a change in the liturgy, one way or another. Young priests are more conservative and are correcting the liturgy.

I think that it’s a great thing to have Charistmatic Catholics. I think that it is not appropriate to make any of your gestures and prayer postures the total norm for a mass. That is not what the Vatican wants.

It’s good to see that your tone has lightened on these threads. Times are changing. And I agree with you, B16 is not going to ban those postures, he has bigger problems, but a Leaner church could well be a more conservative church.

 

[Mysty101]

netmil(name removed by moderator):

It’s good to see that your tone has lightened on these threads. Times are changing. And I agree with you, B16 is not going to ban those postures, he has bigger problems, but a Leaner church could well be a more conservative church.

My tone has not changed–you have just stopped the silly ridicule, now you just need to work on the offensive remarks.

 

[netmilsmom]

Mysty101:

My tone has not changed–you have just stopped the silly ridicule, now you just need to work on the offensive remarks.

Oh Mysty, that beam is still in your eye as well.
Maybe we both have something to work on.

 

[Mysty101]

netmil(name removed by moderator):

Oh Mysty, that beam is still in your eye as well.
Maybe we both have something to work on.

I am sorry I responded to your last post.

Do us both a favor and stop remarking on my feelings. You have no way of knowing them.

 

[netmilsmom]

Mysty101:

I am sorry I responded to your last post.

Do us both a favor and stop remarking on my feelings. You have no way of knowing them.

I’m sorry, I don’t understand. What feelings?

 

[Therese_Martin]

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This thread is now closed. Thanks to all who participated in the discussion.