Need some localized help

[eightydeuce82]

Ok guys I need a bit of assistance here. I am located in the Yakima Diocese in Washington State and attend St. Josephs Church in Kennewick. The area is split down the middle by the Columbia River one side is Yakima and the other Spokane Diocese (Spokane being 2 hours away). Of the Churches in the area in both diocese my parish is the only to offer the EF Mass. We have really been blessed by two brother priests (literally) who are retired and getting up in age who travel the surrounding area and offer the EF Mass only. Its really amazing the distance they travel to have these Masses said while being probably in their 80s and retired!

We have at the parish a pretty good size group of folks who attend the EF regularly as its offered here 3 times a month in the chapel. The group is fairly young the average age is probably 35 with a few hold overs . So along with this group I believe it really has kept our parish rather traditional in both the EF and the OF. I’m pretty involved with the both sides of the house and honestly folks from both sides of the river drive to our parish to attend both the EF and the OF because it has remained very conservative. I take this as a great thing.

So on to the meat of this all…The EF said here is a very Low Mass. As one could imagine there just are not very many people who can sing Gregorian chant or know how to serve so its a silent EF. The folks who attend are just dying for some music! SO a few of us are starting to put our feelers out to see if we can get something going but we really don’t know where to start.

We would like to see if we can get a High Mass said on occasion with music. Also to develop some dialog with priests who still say the EF as our brothers are not going to be around forever. To my knowledge they are literally the only priests in the area who even know how to say the EF. I fear that if we don’t start looking soon and determining cost and feasibility that this aspect of our community might go away when the brothers are no longer able to do this for us. This would be a really sad thing. So this isn’t about just having music sung but exposing our parish to a High Mass and setting a foundation for it to be said here.

Now I’ve done some preliminary research and it looks like the closest place that offers a Latin Mass is the Spokane Diocese across the river and 2 hours away. Spokane (city) being a pretty large area. I know there used to be some orders up there that said only the EF and offered the High Mass. Is anyone here reading this located in the Spokane area and affiliated with any Church that offers a high Mass? Maybe someone that works for the diocese? Seattle is also about 3 hours away which has most of the orders who say the EF i.e. FSSP etc…So if you work for either of these diocese (Seattle. Spokane) or have any connections that I could contact to see how to proceed forward please let me know.

 

[Bonnie]

I’m an hour north of Spokane, so can’t give you much help. But there is an FSSP parish over in Coeur d’Alene - St. Joan of Arc Chapel - stjoanarc.com.

They might know more about what is available in Spokane.

 

[eightydeuce82]

I’m an hour north of Spokane, so can’t give you much help. But there is an FSSP parish over in Coeur d’Alene - St. Joan of Arc Chapel - stjoanarc.com.

They might know more about what is available in Spokane.

I’m kind of interested in if Spokane can come to us lol!

 

[eightydeuce82]

:shrug:MAN! Look at all the posts lol!

 

[Bonnie]

I’m kind of interested in if Spokane can come to us lol!

You mean you want them to just know & offer to come to Kennewick without talking to them? Interesting.

 

[eightydeuce82]

You mean you want them to just know & offer to come to Kennewick without talking to them? Interesting.

Did you read the original post lol? I’m looking into feasibility i.e. costs associated paying for them to come down.

 

[OraLabora]

As one could imagine there just are not very many people who can sing Gregorian chant or know how to serve so its a silent EF. The folks who attend are just dying for some music! SO a few of us are starting to put our feelers out to see if we can get something going but we really don’t know where to start.

We would like to see if we can get a High Mass said on occasion with music.

This link can give you some idea of resources in your area. There’s not much in Washington state, but there’s a schola in Portland and also some north in Canada in and around Vancouver. Perhaps you could contact a few of them to see if they’d be willing to help teach it.

musicasacra.com/miscellany/registry/

Gregorian chant isn’t as formidable as you might imagine. If a musical idiot like myself (couldn’t even read standard music notation) can learn it and now sight-read it, then there’s hope for you. I suggest forming a small group of interested men (an all-male schola… or all-female… would probably work better for newbies than a mixed schola), and giving it a whirl. There are plenty of resources on the Web to learn it.

Good luck and God Bless!

 

[Bonnie]

Did you read the original post lol? I’m looking into feasibility i.e. costs associated paying for them to come down.

Oh - I thought you would need to talk to someone to find that out. Silly me. I withdraw my suggestion.

 

[eightydeuce82]

This link can give you some idea of resources in your area. There’s not much in Washington state, but there’s a schola in Portland and also some north in Canada in and around Vancouver. Perhaps you could contact a few of them to see if they’d be willing to help teach it.

musicasacra.com/miscellany/registry/

Gregorian chant isn’t as formidable as you might imagine. If a musical idiot like myself (couldn’t even read standard music notation) can learn it and now sight-read it, then there’s hope for you. I suggest forming a small group of interested men (an all-male schola… or all-female… would probably work better for newbies than a mixed schola), and giving it a whirl. There are plenty of resources on the Web to learn it.

Good luck and God Bless!

Thanks so much!

 

[corsair]

I’ve been to the church in Spokane (St. Francis Xavier) that offers the EF every Sunday at 10:30am. Its a low Mass and very lightly attended. The priest is quite elderly so I would doubt that he would be able to travel that long distance.

We have a low Mass every Sunday in Tacoma, WA with Fr. Ken Baker. Its at 5:00pm on Sundays. He also does first Fridays and Holy Days at noon. We are hosted by Sts. Peter & Paul ( a Polish parish). Our group is a satelite group of North American Martyr’s (FSSP) in Seattle. We have an average of 100 folks at Mass. Seatlle does a lot better, around 400.

We are called North American Martyr’s - South Sound. We obtained the services of a trained choir director and hired an organist.

Looks to me like you need to approach your Bishop and ask him to invite the FSSP into his diocese. Our Seattle FSSP priest will becoming the North American District Superior for the FSSP in July. (Fr. Gerard Saguto).

He will be advocating for an expanded prescence of the FSSP in North America.

Another thing you could do is invite Fr. John Berg, Superior General, FSSP to come in and speak to your group. And if you haven’t done so already, form a Latin Mass Society with a name and ask your priest for recognition.

Be polite, always but be persistant.

 

[eightydeuce82]

I’ve been to the church in Spokane (St. Francis Xavier) that offers the EF every Sunday at 10:30am. Its a low Mass and very lightly attended. The priest is quite elderly so I would doubt that he would be able to travel that long distance.

We have a low Mass every Sunday in Tacoma, WA with Fr. Ken Baker. Its at 5:00pm on Sundays. He also does first Fridays and Holy Days at noon. We are hosted by Sts. Peter & Paul ( a Polish parish). Our group is a satelite group of North American Martyr’s (FSSP) in Seattle. We have an average of 100 folks at Mass. Seatlle does a lot better, around 400.

We are called North American Martyr’s - South Sound. We obtained the services of a trained choir director and hired an organist.

Looks to me like you need to approach your Bishop and ask him to invite the FSSP into his diocese. Our Seattle FSSP priest will becoming the North American District Superior for the FSSP in July. (Fr. Gerard Saguto).

He will be advocating for an expanded prescence of the FSSP in North America.

Another thing you could do is invite Fr. John Berg, Superior General, FSSP to come in and speak to your group. And if you haven’t done so already, form a Latin Mass Society with a name and ask your priest for recognition.

Be polite, always but be persistant.

Awesome actually my buddy and I were just talking about starting a Latin Mass Society yesterday! I’m actually a member of the Confraternity at FSSP and I’ve gotten a few to sign up. I bet I could get the rest of us to do the same. We have about 100 or so that attend the TLM here the three times a month its offered. I wish they would offer it more and at a reasonable time instead of 4pm. I don’t think our pastor is very in tune with the Latin mass folks. It doesn’t surprise me either same guy doesn’t like Permanent Deacons he considers them glorified altar boys…ugh

 

[corsair]

Well, I don’t care fpr permanent Deacons either, which is another reason I like the EF Mass with the FSSP.

Don’t need a Deacon for a High Mass. Only the Solemn High Mass requires one.

Yes, I know that diocesan TLM’s may use a permanent Deacon but not with the FSSP.

I, too , have been a member on the Confraternity of St. Peter since Feb. 2008.

I would encourage you to organize and present your case to your Bishop, respectfully.
Get a petition started and give a copy to the local pastor and the Bishop. Then begin gathering the talent needed to do the EF. Train some men to serve at the altar, start your own schola. And ask for help from the local community college music department. They will probably be able to put out the word for singers.

That’s how we started back in 2006. actually Seattle started 10 years before that when they got permission for the old “Indult Mass”. It then morphed after 7/7/2007.

Another thought; contact Una Voce for some assistance. God Bless all of you.

Forgot to mention that if and when you need some Roman vestments, I can assist your group as I have several sets that are in excellent shape and a few that will do until they can be replaced. Plus I have a 1962 Altar missal. It would be a gift to your group.

 

[eightydeuce82]

Well, I don’t care fpr permanent Deacons either, which is another reason I like the EF Mass with the FSSP.

Don’t need a Deacon for a High Mass. Only the Solemn High Mass requires one.

Yes, I know that diocesan TLM’s may use a permanent Deacon but not with the FSSP.

I, too , have been a member on the Confraternity of St. Peter since Feb. 2008.

I would encourage you to organize and present your case to your Bishop, respectfully.
Get a petition started and give a copy to the local pastor and the Bishop. Then begin gathering the talent needed to do the EF. Train some men to serve at the altar, start your own schola. And ask for help from the local community college music department. They will probably be able to put out the word for singers.

That’s how we started back in 2006. actually Seattle started 10 years before that when they got permission for the old “Indult Mass”. It then morphed after 7/7/2007.

Another thought; contact Una Voce for some assistance. God Bless all of you.

Forgot to mention that if and when you need some Roman vestments, I can assist your group as I have several sets that are in excellent shape and a few that will do until they can be replaced. Plus I have a 1962 Altar missal. It would be a gift to your group.

Wow ok now I’m feeling overwhelmed lol! Its ok we will get it together. I’m meeting this week to discuss starting the Latin Mass society. Ill keep everyone posted.

 

[corsair]

After you guys get organized, I can bring over the vestments, Altar missal and I just remembered I have a set of Altar cards. This was all of the starter sets that we used. Most are in great shape.

Several sets were purchased from Ebay seller Ackermann ( a Polish company). I have a white set, green set, and a Rose set that are viryually new. Also have a very used violet set, and red set (again very used). The later two are usable but need to be replaced eventually. These are low Mass sets, meaning no copes.

Just let me know how you are doing and when we could meet. I live on the west sdie of the mountains over by Onalaska. So I would drive over White Pass.

God Bless all of you.

 

[corsair]

So, eightydeuce82, how are your efforts going? I’ve got a bunch of vestments ready if your group is interested. If so just PM me and I’ll take some photos and send them.

 

[SanctusMarcus]

After you guys get organized, I can bring over the vestments, Altar missal and I just remembered I have a set of Altar cards. This was all of the starter sets that we used. Most are in great shape.

Several sets were purchased from Ebay seller Ackermann ( a Polish company). I have a white set, green set, and a Rose set that are viryually new. Also have a very used violet set, and red set (again very used). The later two are usable but need to be replaced eventually. These are low Mass sets, meaning no copes.

Just let me know how you are doing and when we could meet. I live on the west sdie of the mountains over by Onalaska. So I would drive over White Pass.

God Bless all of you.

Wow. You’re the first layman that I’ve seen who buys Church supplies! Do you wear them, or just store them for those Priests in short supply? And what has led you to buy them?

+Pax Christi+

 

[corsair]

I was the organizer of our first Latin Mass Society. I lead the drive to purchase the vestments, candlesticks, altar cards etc., which means that I used my money as most of our folks do not have a lot. I don’t either but I spent it anyway. so when the group broke up because the priest moved the Mass too far away, I “repossessed” most of the items.

I traded the candlesticks for two grave plots for my wife and I. and now I have this collection of items to gift to a local group that would like to start a TLM. They are not perfect but they worked for us for almost 4 1/2 years.

I have received another inquiry from a local group but so far have no takers. Don’t understand why people are sceptical. This stuff is real with no strings attached.

 

[SanctusMarcus]

I was the organizer of our first Latin Mass Society. I lead the drive to purchase the vestments, candlesticks, altar cards etc., which means that I used my money as most of our folks do not have a lot. I don’t either but I spent it anyway. so when the group broke up because the priest moved the Mass too far away, I “repossessed” most of the items.

I traded the candlesticks for two grave plots for my wife and I. and now I have this collection of items to gift to a local group that would like to start a TLM. They are not perfect but they worked for us for almost 4 1/2 years.

I have received another inquiry from a local group but so far have no takers. Don’t understand why people are sceptical. This stuff is real with no strings attached.

Now, that’s what I call charity!

I think people today, including Catholics, turn their nose up a “second hand” items. If I was a Priest trying to start a TLM and someone in my parish had vestments etc., I would be at their house within a heart beat!

Also, I saw the photo of your home Altar. I used it as a foundation for my home altar, although I am a long way off from it being anything like yours. I am literally turning part of the eastern side of my bedroom into a chapel, so I am currently cruising the internet for statues, candles, thurible etc.