Needing help understanding why my marriage is not considered valid

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They are wrong.
Saint Michael the Archangel,
defend us in battle.
Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
May God rebuke him, we humbly pray;
and do Thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host -
by the Divine Power of God -
cast into hell, satan and all the evil spirits,
who roam throughout the world seeking the ruin of souls.

Amen.
 
They are wrong.
But see, I don’t necessarily believe that either… Who is anyone to say what is right or wrong other than God. It may in fact be correct but it also may not. That’s where I am confused.
 
That’s the way I feel but the Catholic Church does not see it that way, unfortunately.
Let me ask you this. If you were married in a civic courtroom by a judge, would it be valid under the eyes of the Church and/or God? The answer is no. Now what about this. I am very involed in the Catholic Church, very active with the homeless and i love God with all my heart. Does that mean that I can marry people in Church and/or a small chapel and God would be pleased and it would be valid? The answer is no. Why, because like T40 said, i’m am not part of the Apostolic Chain that the Catholic Church follows. Likewise, the minister who married you was not part of the Apostolic Chain, from which Jesus started with Peter and passed down to all the Popes, Bishops and Priests.
 
I would have to agree with this. You don’t get your marriage convalidated in the Catholic Church if you don’t believe what the Church teaches. That’s kinda like lying, if you know what I mean, along with taking of the Eucharist if you don’t believe in all that the Church teaches.

I’m glad that you are here seeking answers to your questions about your heritage - your Catholic faith. If you’ve been away for a while, then of course you may find things a bit different that what you believe now. God wants us all to seek the Truth - and the Truth can be found with believing in His Son, Jesus Christ. Once you have that belief, though, don’t you think you owe yourself some clear reason as to why the Church teaches what she does? This maybe a time-consuming process for you, but you do owe it to yourself to research and rediscover your Catholicism to find out if it’s really true or not.

I was in the same boat you were…but before I jumped ship, I decided to research myself into the Teachings of the Church…and if it wasn’t for the Holy Spirit, then would not have been able to recognize the Truth when I saw it.
 
Krissy -
When we talk about the valid priesthood, we’re not talking about if a priest is better than a non-Catholic minister. We’re talking about a particular commission that was instituted by Christ. When Christ said to Peter in Matt 16:18 - “You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my Church…” - He did something new here…he established a visible body of believers united by His teachings. This new authority had the permission (and ability) to ordain ministers that adhere to the correct teachings of Christ. (see Acts 6:1-6, letters to Timothy, 2 Cor 3:6, among others). With this commission and help from the Advocate (ie the Holy Spirit), they are able to confer the Sacraments to the faithful, in addition to passing on this commission to others. So basically, we’re talking about ABILITY - not superiority.
Ok, this here makes sense… I’m getting it a little more now
 
But see, I don’t necessarily believe that either… Who is anyone to say what is right or wrong other than God. It may in fact be correct but it also may not. That’s where I am confused.
And confused is where they want you.

Are you truly confused that you did not commit a sin by marrying the man you love with the assistance of a Godly Pastor?

What they are telling you is that your marriage is NOT a marriage in God’s eyes.

Do you really believe this?
 
I would have to agree with this. You don’t get your marriage convalidated in the Catholic Church if you don’t believe what the Church teaches. That’s kinda like lying, if you know what I mean, along with taking of the Eucharist if you don’t believe in all that the Church teaches.

I’m glad that you are here seeking answers to your questions about your heritage - your Catholic faith. If you’ve been away for a while, then of course you may find things a bit different that what you believe now. God wants us all to seek the Truth - and the Truth can be found with believing in His Son, Jesus Christ. Once you have that belief, though, don’t you think you owe yourself some clear reason as to why the Church teaches what she does? This maybe a time-consuming process for you, but you do owe it to yourself to research and rediscover your Catholicism to find out if it’s really true or not.

I was in the same boat you were…but before I jumped ship, I decided to research myself into the Teachings of the Church…and if it wasn’t for the Holy Spirit, then would not have been able to recognize the Truth when I saw it.
I want to believe so badly, I really do. I felt an emptiness being away from the Church. But after having those beliefs for so long, it’s hard to change them. That’s what I’m suffering through now. I just have a hard time believing that the Catholic church is THE church.

I’m not jumping ship just yet lol I really want to get everything straightened out in my head and I"m sure it will be a time consuming process but a process I am more than willing to go through.
 
How and why would our God see this as a mortal sin
To commit a mortal sin one must have full knowledge of the grave nature of the offense and choose the action or behavior despite the understanding that it will separate one from God. So if you and your husband intentionally decided to defy the Church on this matter, knowing what the teaching is on marriage, you may be culpable. However, if you understood your wedding by a minister to be the same as or equal to a Catholic marriage in the eyes of God, your responsibility may be lessened.
and condemn us to hell if we don’t get our marriage blessed in the Catholic Church?
Catholic teaching tells us that God does not condemn us to hell. WE condemn ourselves. Christ left behind His Church and She continues His mission. The Catechism provides us with the structure by which we can fulfill our obligations to Christ to live as His disciples while here on this earth. When we choose to defy or reject the doctrines of our Church, we are essentially telling God that we don’t agree with Him, or we know better.
So, you’re saying that God doesn’t see the minister that performed the service as worthy enough? Do you honestly think that God thinks that Catholic Priests are better than Ministers, Pastors etc of other religions?
There is no “better than” in God’s eyes and that is not the issue in the case of priests and ministers. Christ left behind His Church and appointed His apostle Peter as it’s head. From Peter, we have apostolic succession which gives the Catholic Church it’s direct link to Christ Himself. In a sense, the priest is directly appointed by Christ. This is not the case with other Christian denominations. While their ministers may be very good and holy men who have been called to devote their lives to God, we, as Catholics, believe that they have yet to reach their true homes, which is the Church. It may be that God is moving them toward the Church in stages and that their ministries bring them closer. But the fact is they are men who minister without the benefit of a “See”, or unified governing body. They are working on interpreting God’s will and Word on their own.
That would mean that all non-Catholics are going to hell because they belong to a false religion. I really don’t believe that.
You don’t have to believe that because that is not Church teaching. Referring back to my explanation of mortal sin, which is the only thing that separates us from God, most non-Catholic Christians who are married in their own churches by their own ministers believe completely that they are doing God’s will. The Catholic Church understands that such people have yet to understand the fullness of the truth and are earnestly seeking to do God’s will in the only way they know. More importantly, the Church NEVER presumes to tell anyone they are “going to hell”. The Lord is the only judge. The Church tells us how to avoid it.

This is from the Catechism. Perhaps it will help you to understand why a Catholic must marry within the Catholic Church.
1661 The sacrament of Matrimony signifies the union of Christ and the Church. It gives spouses the grace to love each other with the love with which Christ has loved his Church; the grace of the sacrament thus perfects the human love of the spouses, strengthens their indissoluble unity, and sanctifies them on the way to eternal life (cf. Council of Trent: DS 1799).
1663 Since marriage establishes the couple in a public state of life in the Church, it is fitting that its celebration be public, in the framework of a liturgical celebration, before the priest (or a witness authorized by the Church), the witnesses, and the assembly of the faithful.
 
Saint Michael the Archangel,
defend us in battle.
Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
May God rebuke him, we humbly pray;
and do Thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host -
by the Divine Power of God -
cast into hell, satan and all the evil spirits,
who roam throughout the world seeking the ruin of souls.

Amen.
I think that was a bit much. You don’t know that the poster you replied to is evil???!!! They just believe in what they believe.
 
Krissy -
When we talk about the valid priesthood, we’re not talking about if a priest is better than a non-Catholic minister. We’re talking about a particular commission that was instituted by Christ. When Christ said to Peter in Matt 16:18 - “You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my Church…” - He did something new here…he established a visible body of believers united by His teachings. This new authority had the permission (and ability) to ordain ministers that adhere to the correct teachings of Christ. (see Acts 6:1-6, letters to Timothy, 2 Cor 3:6, among others). With this commission and help from the Advocate (ie the Holy Spirit), they are able to confer the Sacraments to the faithful, in addition to passing on this commission to others. So basically, we’re talking about ABILITY - not superiority.
Good points.

Do you, krissy, feel superior to men as a woman because only women can have babies?

Do you think I as an Australian feel superior to you as an American even though my country doesn’t recognise all the educational or professional qualifications that are offered by your country’s institutions? Do you as an American feel superior to me even though your country probably doesn’t recognise my educational qualifications in the legal profession?

And yet we each are obliged to accept the way our biology runs as women, even though it is different to men’s, and the laws and administrative procedures our respective countries have introduced, and accept that if we’re lawyers or teachers or what have you, we can for the most part only work in a limited range of places.

Same with the Church, you’re a ‘citizen’ of the Catholic Church if you will. And just as you agree to abide by the laws of your country, so you should by those of the Church. You know what the option is if you don’t want to, in both cases.
 
Let me ask you this. If you were married in a civic courtroom by a judge, would it be valid under the eyes of the Church and/or God? The answer is no. Now what about this. I am very involed in the Catholic Church, very active with the homeless and i love God with all my heart. Does that mean that I can marry people in Church and/or a small chapel and God would be pleased and it would be valid? The answer is no. Why, because like T40 said, i’m am not part of the Apostolic Chain that the Catholic Church follows. Likewise, the minister who married you was not part of the Apostolic Chain, from which Jesus started with Peter and passed down to all the Popes, Bishops and Priests.
No, it would definitely not be valid, and I would never do that. And I understand where you are coming from with the rest… Thank you 🙂
 
And confused is where they want you.

Are you truly confused that you did not commit a sin by marrying the man you love with the assistance of a Godly Pastor?

What they are telling you is that your marriage is NOT a marriage in God’s eyes.

Do you really believe this?
No, I truly believe that I didn’t commit a sin. I am trying to understand why the Catholic church thinks I did but that I am beginning to understand.

I need to get my Bible out and start reading…
 
I want to believe so badly, I really do. I felt an emptiness being away from the Church. But after having those beliefs for so long, it’s hard to change them. That’s what I’m suffering through now. I just have a hard time believing that the Catholic church is THE church.

I’m not jumping ship just yet lol I really want to get everything straightened out in my head and I"m sure it will be a time consuming process but a process I am more than willing to go through.
I’m glad to hear this. The Lord never abandons His children, and I’m sure He’s happy to know that you are willing to learn about your faith.

You may want to go to the home page of Catholic Answers at catholic.com. They have a ton of stuff regarding the teachings of our Faith and the Early Church Fathers and their beliefs. When I realized through my research that the faith that Christ handed down to us 2000 years ago was the same faith we practice today, I got really excited about it! I hope and pray that you may also be granted the gift of zeal for Christ’s Church and be able to live it out faithfully, fruitfully, and freely (without being forced to believe it).

God Bless!
 
Let me ask you this. If you were married in a civic courtroom by a judge, would it be valid under the eyes of the Church and/or God? The answer is no. Now what about this. I am very involed in the Catholic Church, very active with the homeless and i love God with all my heart. Does that mean that I can marry people in Church and/or a small chapel and God would be pleased and it would be valid? The answer is no. Why, because like T40 said, i’m am not part of the Apostolic Chain that the Catholic Church follows. Likewise, the minister who married you was not part of the Apostolic Chain, from which Jesus started with Peter and passed down to all the Popes, Bishops and Priests.
Rom 14:4 “Who are you to judge the servant of another? To his own master he stands or falls; and he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.”

 
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