Never going to make it to heaven

[Waiting]

No one committed anyone’s soul to hell. I simply made a factual statement in response to a false statement by someone else.

I was just pointing out that the mercy of God is limitless. We can’t take heaven for granted, but God gives us so many opportunities to repent, because His love is so great. We can never assume that even a well-known public sinner has gone to hell upon his death.

 

[jenwha]

I just read through another thread about mortal sin and am left thinking I’ll never make it to heaven. So in the example in the other thread, a guy chooses to play golf instead of going to Mass on Sunday, dies, and goes to hell for making that selfish decision.

Is it just me, or doesn’t everybody make selfish decisions every single day? For example (these are just examples, but I have done them at one time or another). Your alarm clock goes off, you are exhausted so you push the snooze alarm. Three times. Knowing it will annoy your spouse because he doesn’t have to get up. Then the dog scratches the door and instead of getting up to keep him from bugging your spouse, you tell him to be quiet and snuggle deeper into the covers knowing your spouse will have to get up to let the dog out.

You get to work and find your employee has decided to not come into the office until January 7th (today is Dec 26) and has just sent you an email saying so. You get irritated and vent to a colleague about the employee’s irresponsibility. At the same time you tell them how frustrated you are because you have found numerous errors in this employees work over the last month and they are just incompetent. For a split second before you talk about this, you think “I shouldn’t talk about employees to others” but you do it anyway because you are so frustrated.

You are bored at work and you decide to check your personal email. Before you do so, you think, I really shouldn’t do this at work, but you do it anyway because after all, you are bored and it will only take a few minutes and you’ll do your work later.

A colleague comes in your office when you are listening to some funny joke online someone emailed to you. The colleague asks what you are doing and you lie and say you are working on X project. Right before you lied, you had a split second where you didn’t know what to say so you just chose to lie.

I could go on and on. Now, my question is… are you all perfect? Because I’m not and never will be. I mean hopefully in time I will overcome my sins with God’s help. But I doubt I’ll ever live a day without doing some kind of dumb thing or making a choice to do the wrong thing. So according to what some people say here, I am going straight to hell if I die before confession. I made a choice in each case and acted in the wrong way, broke a commandment or acted selfishly.

I don’t know. I find this all very confusing and disturbing. Where is the mercy of God over our humanness? We all fail every day. Without Christ, we would have not hope whatsoever. I’ve heard priests say that I am moving in the right direction and that’s what matters. But reading here, you’d think that the catholic church teaches that we are all going to hell. So am I really a much worse sinner than all of you, or do you also do these things every day and feel bad but just keep trying because what else can you do?

Being a new Catholic, I wonder the exact same things, and I feel hopeless a lot of the time.

Also, I think “grave” seems to be highly interpretable. One person says this is grave, one person says that. So I at this point in my journey have no way to interpret what is grave and what is not, outside of rape, kidnapping, murder, etc. Those sins are obviously grave. As to what is mortal and what is venial, I’ve heard different opinions on both so I have no idea how we are supposed to tell which is which.

 

[PattiDay]

God is merciful. We are all sinners. Keep trying.

 

[Bookcat]

Being a new Catholic, I wonder the exact same things, and I feel hopeless a lot of the time.

Also, I think “grave” seems to be highly interpretable. One person says this is grave, one person says that. So I at this point in my journey have no way to interpret what is grave and what is not, outside of rape, kidnapping, murder, etc. Those sins are obviously grave. As to what is mortal and what is venial, I’ve heard different opinions on both so I have no idea how we are supposed to tell which is which.

Many things are listed as “grave” in the Catechism and the Compendium. Also a good work of Moral Theology will be of help …and ones confessor can assist.

As to Missing Mass:

Catechism:

2181 The Sunday Eucharist is the foundation and confirmation of all Christian practice. For this reason the faithful are obliged to participate in the Eucharist on days of obligation, unless excused for a serious reason (for example, illness, the care of infants) or dispensed by their own pastor.119 Those who deliberately fail in this obligation commit a grave sin. scborromeo.org/ccc/p3s2c1a3.htm#II

(grave sin =mortal sin)

 

[agnes_therese]

Also to whoever said I should listen to my priest instead of the Internet, this all arose because of what I read here. I’ve never discussed it with a priest. It was just a response to another thread and this is the best place to talk about it. I have a large parish and very busy priest, unlike many on here who post. So there’s nothing wrong with asking for help when you need. Of course we then can decide what to listen to or not. Maybe you didn’t mean it that way, but it sounded rather accusatory.

You’re the one who said that you’d already heard from priests that you were on the right path (or words to that effect). I was only suggesting that the opinion of priests on this subject perhaps should be given more weight than that of strangers. I’m sorry you chose to take that as ‘accusatory.’

 

[TheRealJuliane]

Ok, I needed to hear these are venial sins. The way I read/interpreted the other thread on missing mass and mortal sin threw me into this confusion. Personally, I’m not so sure God will send someone to hell for missing Mass on Sunday because of a momentary wrong decision based on selfishness. I just needed to get some clarity. Thanks to everyone who posted.

I will try to make it to confession more often as these “little” sins can really weigh you down in time if you are trying to overcome and keep failing. I kind of hate going, but oh well.

Also to whoever said I should listen to my priest instead of the Internet, this all arose because of what I read here. I’ve never discussed it with a priest. It was just a response to another thread and this is the best place to talk about it. I have a large parish and very busy priest, unlike many on here who post. So there’s nothing wrong with asking for help when you need. Of course we then can decide what to listen to or not. Maybe you didn’t mean it that way, but it sounded rather accusatory.

I hope you didn’t misinterpret my response to you. If you use these little selfish excuses in order to justify missing Mass, then yes, that IS a grave sin. I was responding to your other listed experiences such as gossiping about a co-worker, lounging in bed so your husband has to get up first, etc. THOSE are venial sins. Troublesome, but not as major as deliberately missing Mass. In my own life, I have found that the venial sins are the things that trip me up on a daily basis and keep me from grace. I have a tendency to downplay them, “Well, it’s not big enough for confession…” but added up, it does amount to a very considerable amount of sinning. That is one reason I go to confession regularly.

Another reason is that doing an examination of conscience is a very good exercise in humility. Standing in line for confession, we are in front of Jesus in the adoration chapel, and I pray to Him to scour my heart of anything that will keep me from loving Him more deeply every day. I always feel nervous and distressed but I try to remember to offer it up for the souls in purgatory as I hope that one day, people on earth will pray for me.

It is not unusual for converts to go through a period of scrupulosity. Having never been accountable for one’s sins, it can be quite the process of learning a balance. I’d also suggest a spiritual director. You can speak with your priest about this, perhaps during your next confession?

 

[einna]

I was just pointing out that the mercy of God is limitless. We can’t take heaven for granted, but God gives us so many opportunities to repent, because His love is so great. We can never assume that even a well-known public sinner has gone to hell upon his death.

I can relate to the OP post, and I thank you for your response; however, it seems to be from a couple of other post there are very conflicting thoughts on the matter. One wants to state “facts” about what will happen and you seem to remember God is merciful.

I too feel like the biggest sinner in the world after reading the “facts” of some of those who post and what the Catholic Church teaches and that there is no hope for me. I was brought up in a parish and school that focused on a loving, forgiving God that truly wants all of us in heaven with Him and tries to guide us everyday to be good people. I feel like I am in a new and foreign faith these days with what some Catholic say and how they say it I think all we can do is our very best every single day and pray for God’s guidance, but none of us will get it right or be perfect every time..

 

[TheRealJuliane]

Being a new Catholic, I wonder the exact same things, and I feel hopeless a lot of the time.

Also, I think “grave” seems to be highly interpretable. One person says this is grave, one person says that. So I at this point in my journey have no way to interpret what is grave and what is not, outside of rape, kidnapping, murder, etc. Those sins are obviously grave. As to what is mortal and what is venial, I’ve heard different opinions on both so I have no idea how we are supposed to tell which is which.

Mostly, it’s the 10 Commandments which constitute mortal sins. Do you have a copy of the Catechism? I think every new convert should get a copy! And, if you have any questions at all about mortal sins, please talk to your priest as soon as possible.

 

[AnneTeresa]

You’re the one who said that you’d already heard from priests that you were on the right path (or words to that effect). I was only suggesting that the opinion of priests on this subject perhaps should be given more weight than that of strangers. I’m sorry you chose to take that as ‘accusatory.’

Oh, I reread what I wrote and I see why you took it that way now. I was referring in a general way to things priests told me in the past, not this specific scenario. One priest also told me once not to worry about what is mortal or venial. I think it can be a trap for some people.

 

[AnneTeresa]

I hope you didn’t misinterpret my response to you. If you use these little selfish excuses in order to justify missing Mass, then yes, that IS a grave sin. I was responding to your other listed experiences such as gossiping about a co-worker, lounging in bed so your husband has to get up first, etc. THOSE are venial sins. Troublesome, but not as major as deliberately missing Mass. In my own life, I have found that the venial sins are the things that trip me up on a daily basis and keep me from grace. I have a tendency to downplay them, “Well, it’s not big enough for confession…” but added up, it does amount to a very considerable amount of sinning. That is one reason I go to confession regularly.

Another reason is that doing an examination of conscience is a very good exercise in humility. Standing in line for confession, we are in front of Jesus in the adoration chapel, and I pray to Him to scour my heart of anything that will keep me from loving Him more deeply every day. I always feel nervous and distressed but I try to remember to offer it up for the souls in purgatory as I hope that one day, people on earth will pray for me.

It is not unusual for converts to go through a period of scrupulosity. Having never been accountable for one’s sins, it can be quite the process of learning a balance. I’d also suggest a spiritual director. You can speak with your priest about this, perhaps during your next confession?

Oh, no. I understood what you meant and it helped. I think it was another poster who misunderstood and that led to the whole crackdown on missing mass being mortal sin. I still say it depends. And yeah, if I did it for the other reasons in the original OP I agree it would be mortal.

Yeah, you’re right about small sins piling up. Sometimes the way people state everything here like it’s all about reading a book and just following a black/white “rule” is what throws me. Like someone else said, it’s not always that clear what is mortal and what isn’t. No matter what the catechism says or what a priest tells you (another priest will often say something exactly opposite).

But I’m ok again. And yeah, I think I went through a period of mild scrupulosity for a while. Until I figured out that God is love and mercy, not waiting to pounce on me over every little sin.

One thing I’ve noticed is that Americans tend to take a real black/white (at least here at CAF) view on mortal/venial sin. I’ve talked to people in other cultures, like India, who clearly stress God’s mercy and say to focus on that rather than our own sin.

 

[livingwordunity]

I just read through another thread about mortal sin and am left thinking I’ll never make it to heaven. So in the example in the other thread, a guy chooses to play golf instead of going to Mass on Sunday, dies, and goes to hell for making that selfish decision.

Is it just me, or doesn’t everybody make selfish decisions every single day? For example (these are just examples, but I have done them at one time or another). Your alarm clock goes off, you are exhausted so you push the snooze alarm. Three times. Knowing it will annoy your spouse because he doesn’t have to get up. Then the dog scratches the door and instead of getting up to keep him from bugging your spouse, you tell him to be quiet and snuggle deeper into the covers knowing your spouse will have to get up to let the dog out.

You get to work and find your employee has decided to not come into the office until January 7th (today is Dec 26) and has just sent you an email saying so. You get irritated and vent to a colleague about the employee’s irresponsibility. At the same time you tell them how frustrated you are because you have found numerous errors in this employees work over the last month and they are just incompetent. For a split second before you talk about this, you think “I shouldn’t talk about employees to others” but you do it anyway because you are so frustrated.

You are bored at work and you decide to check your personal email. Before you do so, you think, I really shouldn’t do this at work, but you do it anyway because after all, you are bored and it will only take a few minutes and you’ll do your work later.

A colleague comes in your office when you are listening to some funny joke online someone emailed to you. The colleague asks what you are doing and you lie and say you are working on X project. Right before you lied, you had a split second where you didn’t know what to say so you just chose to lie.

I could go on and on. Now, my question is… are you all perfect? Because I’m not and never will be. I mean hopefully in time I will overcome my sins with God’s help. But I doubt I’ll ever live a day without doing some kind of dumb thing or making a choice to do the wrong thing. So according to what some people say here, I am going straight to hell if I die before confession. I made a choice in each case and acted in the wrong way, broke a commandment or acted selfishly.

I don’t know. I find this all very confusing and disturbing. Where is the mercy of God over our humanness? We all fail every day. Without Christ, we would have not hope whatsoever. I’ve heard priests say that I am moving in the right direction and that’s what matters. But reading here, you’d think that the catholic church teaches that we are all going to hell. So am I really a much worse sinner than all of you, or do you also do these things every day and feel bad but just keep trying because what else can you do?

In your example of the man who gets ready to go play golf, how does getting ready to go play golf require less preparation than getting ready to go to Mass?

 

[Bookcat]

Catechism:

2181 The Sunday Eucharist is the foundation and confirmation of all Christian practice. For this reason the faithful are obliged to participate in the Eucharist on days of obligation, unless excused for a serious reason (for example, illness, the care of infants) or dispensed by their own pastor.119 Those who deliberately fail in this obligation commit a grave sin. scborromeo.org/ccc/p3s2c1a3.htm#II

(grave sin =mortal sin)

 

[Bookcat]

. I think it was another poster who misunderstood and that led to the whole crackdown on missing mass being mortal sin. I still say it depends. And yeah, if I did it for the other reasons in the original OP I agree it would be mortal.

Catechism:

2181 The Sunday Eucharist is the foundation and confirmation of all Christian practice. For this reason the faithful are obliged to participate in the Eucharist on days of obligation, unless excused for a serious reason (for example, illness, the care of infants) or dispensed by their own pastor.119 Those who deliberately fail in this obligation commit a grave sin. scborromeo.org/ccc/p3s2c1a3.htm#II

(grave sin =mortal sin)

Yes it depends on if the person had as serious reason or a dispensation or if the person had the needed knowledge and consent:

395. When does one commit a mortal sin?

1855-1861
1874

One commits a mortal sin when there are simultaneously present: grave matter, full knowledge, and deliberate consent. This sin destroys charity in us, deprives us of sanctifying grace, and, if unrepented, leads us to the eternal death of hell. It can be forgiven in the ordinary way by means of the sacraments of Baptism and of Penance or Reconciliation.

vatican.va/archive/compendium_ccc/documents/archive_2005_compendium-ccc_en.html

 

[Bookcat]

One thing I’ve noticed is that Americans tend to take a real black/white (at least here at CAF) view on mortal/venial sin. I’ve talked to people in other cultures, like India, who clearly stress God’s mercy and say to focus on that rather than our own sin.

Cultures might tend to ‘stress’ various aspects of the truth …

That perhaps the case at times…in any case the Catholic Church has a clear understanding as to what constitutes a mortal sin and an venial sin…and about the mercy of God.

Compendium issued by Pope Benedict XVI

395. When does one commit a mortal sin?

1855-1861
1874

One commits a mortal sin when there are simultaneously present: grave matter, full knowledge, and deliberate consent. This sin destroys charity in us, deprives us of sanctifying grace, and, if unrepented, leads us to the eternal death of hell. It can be forgiven in the ordinary way by means of the sacraments of Baptism and of Penance or Reconciliation.

396. When does one commit a venial sin?

1862-1864
1875

One commits a venial sin, which is essentially different from a mortal sin, when the matter involved is less serious or, even if it is grave, when full knowledge or complete consent are absent. Venial sin does not break the covenant with God but it weakens charity and manifests a disordered affection for created goods. It impedes the progress of a soul in the exercise of the virtues and in the practice of moral good. It merits temporal punishment which purifies.

1. What does the acceptance of God’s mercy require from us?

1846-1848
1870

It requires that we admit our faults and repent of our sins. God himself by his Word and his Spirit lays bare our sins and gives us the truth of conscience and the hope of forgiveness.

…

(regarding confession)

1. Who is the minister of this sacrament?

1461-1466
1495

Christ has entrusted the ministry of Reconciliation to his apostles, to the bishops who are their successors and to the priests who are the collaborators of the bishops, all of whom become thereby instruments of the mercy and justice of God. They exercise their power of forgiving sins in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.

vatican.va/archive/compendium_ccc/documents/archive_2005_compendium-ccc_en.html

 

[Sarcelle]

I know for sure that it is only through the God’s Grace that I have a shot at making it to Heaven.

Part of God’s Grace is the sacrament of Confession. It’s good for my soul.

 

[Waiting]

I can relate to the OP post, and I thank you for your response; however, it seems to be from a couple of other post there are very conflicting thoughts on the matter. One wants to state “facts” about what will happen and you seem to remember God is merciful.

I too feel like the biggest sinner in the world after reading the “facts” of some of those who post and what the Catholic Church teaches and that there is no hope for me. I was brought up in a parish and school that focused on a loving, forgiving God that truly wants all of us in heaven with Him and tries to guide us everyday to be good people. I feel like I am in a new and foreign faith these days with what some Catholic say and how they say it I think all we can do is our very best every single day and pray for God’s guidance, but none of us will get it right or be perfect every time..

Jesus asks us to trust Him. Say, “Jesus, I trust in you,” often during the day, especially when you are upset or confused. He will guide you toward the right outcome. Just place your trust in Him. Sometimes it seems like things are going wrong no matter how you pray. Keep your trust in Jesus strong. If what you are praying for doesn’t come about, it means He has something better in mind for you. Remember, we only see what’s present to us now. Jesus sees the whole picture. And if you truly love God, you won’t be commiting grave sins. It would hurt you to cause the Lord that much pain.

 

[Julia_Mae]

uh, ok

 

[ManicFaze]

In the Bible, St. Paul gives us a list of grave sins. He states that anyone who commits these sins shall not enter the kingdom of God. “Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God” (Galatians 5:19-20). Paul also tells the Corinthians, “know you no that the unjust shall not possess the kingdom of God? Do not err: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, Nor the effeminate, nor liers with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards nor railers, nor extortioners shall possess the kingdom of God” (1 Corinthians 6:9-10). These sins constitute grave matter, and if they are committed willingly and with full consent, constitute mortal sin.

**The Church also tells us that the sins of** anger, blasphemy, envy, hatred, malice, murder, **neglect of Sunday obligation**, sins against faith (incredulity against God or heresy), sins against hope (obstinate despair in the hope for salvation and/or presumption that oneself can live without God or be saved by one’s own power) and sins against love (indifference towards charity, ingratitude, and/or hatred of God) also constitute grave matter. **This list of grave sins, is based on Jesus Christ’s interpretation of the gravity of the Ten Commandments. Grave sins can be classed as sins against God, neighbor and self, and can further be divided into carnal and spiritual sins (CCC 1853).**
Four other sins are considered grave also. These sins not only offend God, but men as well. Thus these four sins are called "the sins that cry to heaven for vengeance" and are likewise mortal sins. These grave sins are:

The voluntary murder (Genesis 4:10)
The sin of impurity against nature –Sodomy and homosexual relations (Genesis 18:20)
Taking advantage of the poor (Exodus 2:23)
Defrauding the workingman of his wages (James 5:4)
Finally, the capital sins are also considered grave matter. These sins are vices and are defined as contrary to the Christian virtues of holiness. They are pride, avarice, envy, wrath, lust, gluttony, and sloth (acedia).

I have committed sins on just about every level in the past, but I have no fear of going to hell though because I’m a good person at heart who is always willing to help my fellow man and I have never hurt anyone other than myself in my sinful ways. I just firmly believe that my relationship with G-d will allow me to always be in his loving care; I’m I just ignorant in my belief?

 

[littlechicken]

Being a new Catholic, I wonder the exact same things, and I feel hopeless a lot of the time.

Also, I think “grave” seems to be highly interpretable. One person says this is grave, one person says that. So I at this point in my journey have no way to interpret what is grave and what is not, outside of rape, kidnapping, murder, etc. Those sins are obviously grave. As to what is mortal and what is venial, I’ve heard different opinions on both so I have no idea how we are supposed to tell which is which.

Yep:thumbsup:
It really is difficult when even well intentioned people, all seemingly devout, give different answers.
Even reading the Catechism doesn’t seem to help much, because when I ask, “what does this mean?” I will get several different answers.
The only thing I am really sure of is that I am Catholic , and believe in the Dogmas and Sacraments.
The rest is a bunch of confusing riddles.

Peace be with you.

 

[CaptFun]

I just read through another thread about mortal sin and am left thinking I’ll never make it to heaven. So in the example in the other thread, a guy chooses to play golf instead of going to Mass on Sunday, dies, and goes to hell for making that selfish decision.

Is it just me, or doesn’t everybody make selfish decisions every single day? For example (these are just examples, but I have done them at one time or another). Your alarm clock goes off, you are exhausted so you push the snooze alarm. Three times. Knowing it will annoy your spouse because he doesn’t have to get up. Then the dog scratches the door and instead of getting up to keep him from bugging your spouse, you tell him to be quiet and snuggle deeper into the covers knowing your spouse will have to get up to let the dog out.

You get to work and find your employee has decided to not come into the office until January 7th (today is Dec 26) and has just sent you an email saying so. You get irritated and vent to a colleague about the employee’s irresponsibility. At the same time you tell them how frustrated you are because you have found numerous errors in this employees work over the last month and they are just incompetent. For a split second before you talk about this, you think “I shouldn’t talk about employees to others” but you do it anyway because you are so frustrated.

You are bored at work and you decide to check your personal email. Before you do so, you think, I really shouldn’t do this at work, but you do it anyway because after all, you are bored and it will only take a few minutes and you’ll do your work later.

A colleague comes in your office when you are listening to some funny joke online someone emailed to you. The colleague asks what you are doing and you lie and say you are working on X project. Right before you lied, you had a split second where you didn’t know what to say so you just chose to lie.

I could go on and on. Now, my question is… are you all perfect? Because I’m not and never will be. I mean hopefully in time I will overcome my sins with God’s help. But I doubt I’ll ever live a day without doing some kind of dumb thing or making a choice to do the wrong thing. So according to what some people say here, I am going straight to hell if I die before confession. I made a choice in each case and acted in the wrong way, broke a commandment or acted selfishly.

I don’t know. I find this all very confusing and disturbing. Where is the mercy of God over our humanness? We all fail every day. Without Christ, we would have not hope whatsoever. I’ve heard priests say that I am moving in the right direction and that’s what matters. But reading here, you’d think that the catholic church teaches that we are all going to hell. So am I really a much worse sinner than all of you, or do you also do these things every day and feel bad but just keep trying because what else can you do?

I have a feeling you WILL get to heaven Anne Teresa. If you don’t let your beautiful humility get parleyed into despair by “the enemy”.

Your soul searching post is a blessing. If I can see the blessings God can too - and He is even more merciful than just (I trust you not to do an inappropriate 180 spiritual turn at this point, lol).

It was quite a healing to me to “hear” a wife consider how she could be a better spouse to her husband in this day and age. It is against the fashion that considers a husband last on the list of considerations (which prevails sometimes - especially when voicing a “to do” list out loud). He’s a lucky man I’d say. Even though you haven’t reached your “better spouse” goals - because he is on your heart, has your consideration, and is considered
worthy of sacrificing for!

I’m sure many good women feel this way too – but your voicing it renews my faith in mankind. And womankind

You MIGHT be scrupling a bit though I would not want to criticize your conscience.

Had you admitted at work you were goofing off (probably not ALWAYS so but for a moment to view a joke) your boss would have felt it necessary to discipline you even if he was doing the same sort of thing himself. Your saying you were working on that project was probably true to an extent - so why define the whole of your employment by the worst possible standard?

Who’s to say that a joke might not come into play on your job later? Like before you introduce someone at a meeting (as an icebreaker), say. Feeling guilty all day can make one hide their light under the bushel basket. Jesus would rather have us quickly repent, accept his forgiveness (as far as east is from west!), learn from our mistakes, help our brothers and sisters with similar problems, and learn to be merciful when someone “sins against us.”

Yes. We are all selfish. That seems to be the root of most sins. But you seem to know that and be making some New Year’s resolutions along that line.

Enjoy your clean slate Anne Teresa. Shine that light (KEEP shining it I mean), and don’t despair.

**Psalm 18:28 Humble people you save; haughty eyes you bring low.

29 You, LORD, give light to my lamp; my God brightens the darkness about me.

30 With you I can rush an armed band, with my God to help I can leap a wall.

Psalm 51:19 My sacrifice, God, is a broken spirit; God, do not spurn a broken, humbled heart.
**

:flowers: < Best Wife of the Day Award for Anne Teresa (Don’t get proud now ).