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stpurl
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I wonder if, had Cardinal Burke not been associated with this paper in any way, the responses would have been the same.
What really --I won’t say puzzles, because it doesn’t, but the word I’m looking for might be considered judgmental or inflammatory, so let’s just say, ‘makes me wonder’–is how many times during the reign of Pope Benedict XVI priests, AND bishops, AND Cardinals, came out with criticisms (Regensburg, anyone) all over the media about what Benedict supposedly had said, thought, ‘had insulted’ people, ‘fomented hatred’, was divisive, ‘catered to the needs of splinter groups and ignored the true needs of the poor’, ‘was ostentatious’, blardy blah, and there was little to no ‘defense’ on these fora. At the most, people would say, “He’s not being taken in context” or 'this doesn’t reflect anything but his OPINION". . .
Yet with the current Pope, even making a statement that what the Pope says reflects his opinion (the same statement made to ‘uphold’ Benedict) is taken as you don’t support the Pope, you are criticizing him, you are fomenting rebellion, etc. etc.
And frankly, the only difference I can see regarding the two pontiffs is that one was regarded as being more in the ‘hermaneutic of continuity’ and one is regarding as being more 'open to the God of surprises" (note, please, that in both cases I am using phrases what that pontiff in question has specifically stated as his belief; I am not 'making my own judgments here.
It seems that there are far more who (at least here) are simpatico with the latter than there are (or were) with the former. . .
and that should make us more careful to be sure that we are indeed hearing THE Spirit, who already has let us know that He does not stand against Himself, or do a 180.
And I’m not saying we aren’t hearing him in one or both pontiffs. But where it is not clear (and you know much of what is said is not clear, because you aren’t just hearing ‘one person’, even for those who are somehow personally anti a given prelate, or for one event), it is not wrong, or ‘anti the Pope’, to ask for, or to help, to give clarity. What the Church teaches, she teaches. What she has been led to further understanding is then further understood. But where there is anyone who (no matter how well-intentioned) might be led into error --not even by his own teaching, but by those who misinterpret him–that error must be corrected.
What really --I won’t say puzzles, because it doesn’t, but the word I’m looking for might be considered judgmental or inflammatory, so let’s just say, ‘makes me wonder’–is how many times during the reign of Pope Benedict XVI priests, AND bishops, AND Cardinals, came out with criticisms (Regensburg, anyone) all over the media about what Benedict supposedly had said, thought, ‘had insulted’ people, ‘fomented hatred’, was divisive, ‘catered to the needs of splinter groups and ignored the true needs of the poor’, ‘was ostentatious’, blardy blah, and there was little to no ‘defense’ on these fora. At the most, people would say, “He’s not being taken in context” or 'this doesn’t reflect anything but his OPINION". . .
Yet with the current Pope, even making a statement that what the Pope says reflects his opinion (the same statement made to ‘uphold’ Benedict) is taken as you don’t support the Pope, you are criticizing him, you are fomenting rebellion, etc. etc.
And frankly, the only difference I can see regarding the two pontiffs is that one was regarded as being more in the ‘hermaneutic of continuity’ and one is regarding as being more 'open to the God of surprises" (note, please, that in both cases I am using phrases what that pontiff in question has specifically stated as his belief; I am not 'making my own judgments here.
It seems that there are far more who (at least here) are simpatico with the latter than there are (or were) with the former. . .
and that should make us more careful to be sure that we are indeed hearing THE Spirit, who already has let us know that He does not stand against Himself, or do a 180.
And I’m not saying we aren’t hearing him in one or both pontiffs. But where it is not clear (and you know much of what is said is not clear, because you aren’t just hearing ‘one person’, even for those who are somehow personally anti a given prelate, or for one event), it is not wrong, or ‘anti the Pope’, to ask for, or to help, to give clarity. What the Church teaches, she teaches. What she has been led to further understanding is then further understood. But where there is anyone who (no matter how well-intentioned) might be led into error --not even by his own teaching, but by those who misinterpret him–that error must be corrected.
