New Carmel Foundation (no age/health restrictions)

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Dear Friends,

If you are interested in a traditional Carmel, full habit, and Teresian
spirituality without age or health restrictions, please join us in the St.
EdithSteinCarmel Yahoo Group. We are being advised by Mother Mary Elizabeth from
the Clinton Township Carmel on key points around the new foundation. We have a
potential Carmel monastery located in Austin, Texas that can accommodate 4 - 8
Sisters at this point. (As Mother pointed out Carmels are often located in urban
areas and we can start small. The Detroit Carmel started out in a small suburban
home with only 4 Sisters!)

An online “Formation Group” is being formed now that will have in-depth study
and readings, discussions, teleconferences and a basic horarium culminating in a
Discernment Live-In in the Fall of 2009. No decision has been made yet on the
Rule and Constitutions that we will be following - that will be part of our
online Formation Group’s challenges to discern!

If this sounds interesting, and you feel the Lord’s nudging you to explore a
vocation to Carmel, we ask you to please take the following anonymous survey:

Click
Here to take survey

and then join us in the St.EdithSteinCarmel Yahoo Group.

You may also contact me privately if you have other questions and/or wish to
express interest, as well.

Blessings to all!

Chana
 
Can I ask two questions?
  1. Is this to be affiliated with either of the Carmelite orders?
  2. Does this have the approval of the bishop diocese of Austin?
I will include your intentions in my daily prayer I just ask that you pray for my ongoing formation.
 
Dear Brother,

Yes, it will definitely be affiliated with one of the two Carmelite orders - but, we are in the process of discerning which at this point.

At this point we are not required to have the Bishop’s approval. We are simply telling people of the emerging charism and gauging interest in it. As we move forward and have the appropriate documents and formation program in place, we will be approaching the Bishop for his approval. We are essentially going to be a new foundation following the traditional rules, simply without the restrictive age and health restrictions that so many Carmels are, out of necessity, forced to follow.

I will certainly pray for you - one of our goals is to contact Carmelite friars in the Diocese, as well as the San Antonio Carmel for guidance and direction.

Blessings,

C.
 
I read about this sometime ago. I think Cloisters started this one. I see the progress!
 
You are in my prayers!!

Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, Ora Pro Nobis Peccatoribus!

mark
 
The original intention was to found a Teresian (OCD) Carmel for older vocations. They are still discerning which set of constitutions to use–either the 1990s or 1991s.

Yes, this is incredible progress, and going a lot faster than anyone ever dreamed. We are praying the Flos Carmeli daily at noon for the intention, so perhaps we really shouldn’t be that surprised at what has come to pass.

Blessings,
Cloisters
 
The original intention was to found a Teresian (OCD) Carmel for older vocations. They are still discerning which set of constitutions to use–either the 1990s or 1991s.

Yes, this is incredible progress, and going a lot faster than anyone ever dreamed. We are praying the Flos Carmeli daily at noon for the intention, so perhaps we really shouldn’t be that surprised at what has come to pass.

Blessings,
Cloisters
I am not familiar with Flos Carmeli. Could you explain?
Sister Judith Ann
 
I am not familiar with Flos Carmeli. Could you explain?
Sister Judith Ann
Flos Carmeli is a hymn in homage to Our Lady of Mount Carmel, traditionally attributed to St Simon Stock, who is said to have received the Scapular vision.

The first two verses in the original Latin are as follows:

*Flos Carmeli,
Vitis florigera,
Splendor coeli,
Virgo puerpera.
Singularis.

Mater mitis,
Sed virinescia,
Carmelitis
Esto propitia
Stella Maris.*

In modern English this is rendered:

*Flower of Carmel,
Tall vine blossom laden;
Splendor of heaven,
Childbearing yet maiden.
None equals thee.

Mother so tender,
Who no man didst know,
On Carmel’s children
Thy favors bestow,
Star of the Sea.*

Different translations of the complete hymn are available online at:

[ Google Sites: Sign-in](http:// Google Sites: Sign-in)

At the foot of the page are links to mp3 recordings of the hymn being sung.

It’s very popular in Carmelite communities - in my own we recite it at least once every day.
 
Thank you for that very informative answer! Being Franciscan I’m not all that familiar with Carmelite ways and traditions. We sing a hymn to Mary at the end of Night Prayer each night. It is wonderful grace to be in relationship with Mary.
Sr. Judith Ann
 
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