.New Hampshire state Rep.: 'The Pope is the anti-Christ'

[Maximilan_Kolbe]

I’ll take an *** over a sociopath or a socialist any day of the week.

As for the article. As others have said, that’s not an uncommon position in American Protestantism. Chalk it up to ignorance and pray for them.

Yes, if the Pope was running against Trump, this sort of thing may make sense to discuss.

The representative is ignorant of both the Pope and the prophecy of the anti-Christ. How embarrassing when adults say things like this.

I’d love for the choice to be Rubio, given his seeming electability head to head, versus Makesmeillary or Bernie, but if the democrats can offer no one better in terms of a few basic life issues, I’ll be forced to pull the lever for the Donald.

 

[TaurusRex]

Jerry Delemus, went out to Oregon and Nevada per this Bundy incident; there are plenty of pictures of him on the web;

This apparent picture, if not photo-shopped, shows Jerry, Susan (who this article is about) and Ted Cruz.

rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Susan-DeLemus-Jerry-DeLemus-and-Ted-Cruz.png

Jerry apparently ran for Sheriff as well; there is something about this on the web.

So anyway, whatever the name is, again, it looks like a name that takes ultimately from Latin and therefore, there is the strong possibility of some Catholicism in the background somewhere.

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In Spain, Delemus as a last name was found 20 times as the first surname and so on; but 20 times is not very many. This also accounts for different areas of the country, hence, because it is found in Spain does not make it Spanish “Castilian” per se just like some Basque names are not really Spanish. I guess that is a technical point. Maybe if it is found in Spain, then it is Spanish.

apellidosespaña.com/apellido/delemus.html

Lemus by itself perhaps is French.

The best I can determine for a name like Dino DeLaurentiis is that it goes all the way back to the Latin like for example:
amo, amas, amat which means I love, you love, he, she, it loves;
So it looks like Dino’s name means you’re down from Larry.

Actually, it’s the plural of you love (i.e. amatis) from which the “tis” in DeLaurentis is demonstrated …
also you beat me to the “moose” which I was going to say is an Hispanic pronunciation (so I’ll accept Catalonian)

And now you mention French for Lemus which I also was going to suggest …
isn’t there a touch of the French in the Catalonians
And isn’t “De” as common in French as in Italian?

 

[TaurusRex]

PS:
French surnames beginning with “De”:

genealogy.familyeducation.com/browse/origin/french

Debaere Debar Debarge Debauche Deberry Debes Deblois Deboe Debois Debord Debree Debrosse Debroux Debruler Debs Debus Decelle Decelles Dechambeau Dechant Dechene Decoste Decoux Decuir Dedeaux Defer Deforest Deforge Defrain Defrance Degan De George Deger De Grace Degrand Degrange De Gruy Deguire De Hay Dejardin Dejarnatt Dejarnett Dejarnette Dejean Dejoie Delafosse Delagardelle Delage
De la Grange Delahoussaye Delaine Delane De Lange Delanoy Delashmutt Delatte Delaune Delaurier Delavergne Delaware Delcambre Delcamp Delcour De Leon DelfosseDelin Delise Delisle Delle Delles Dellis Delmas Deloge Delon Delong Delorge Delorme Delos Deloy Del Sol Delva Delvaux Delwiche Demain Demaine Deman Demanche Demand Demange Demarais Demarest Demarie Demark Demarr Demars Demary Demay Demerchant Demers Demeuse Demey Demille Demme Demont Demontigny Demoranville Demore Demory Demotte Demoulin Denard Denault Deneau Deni Denier Denis Denise Denomme Denoyer Dent Dentremont Denys Deon Depace Depas Depaul Derenne Derise Deroche De Rosier Derouen Derouin Deroy Dery Desaulniers Desautel Desautels Deschamps Descoteaux Desforges Desfosses Deshaies Desilets Desir Desjardins Desjarlais Deslandes Deslatte Deslauriers Desmarais Desnoyers Desormeaux Desper Despres Desrochers Desroches Desrosiers Desruisseaux Desselle Dessert Destin Detemple Dethomas Detienne Devault Devaux Deveaux Devere Deville Devillers Devillier Devin De Vincent Devine Devore Deyo Deyoe

 

[Mary_Gail_36]

slightly confused why it matters if this particular person is Italian-American?

 

[Son_of_Niall]

slightly confused why it matters if this particular person is Italian-American?

Look, over there! A Squirrel!

 

[TaurusRex]

Original post where it’s commented in a quote that the “Pope is the Anti-Christ”:

Quote:
A New Hampshire state representative who supports Donald Trump referred to the pope as the “anti-Christ” in a Facebook post thread.

It’s suggested in this post that her name might be Italian:

A lot of Italian names begin with De; a bit of an ironic twist here. It makes me curious. Her last name is DeLemus. A lot of people get upset about something and say something very uncalled for.

slightly confused why it matters if this particular person is Italian-American?

Being descended 100% from Italians I think I demonstrated sufficiently that the “Anti-Christ” commenter is not Italian-American …
keeping in mind your comment Mary Gail, does it matter if an innocent person is accused of a crime and hanged without a trial?

 

[zz912]

There’s no problem for Catholics because the Church cannot tell me, or any other Catholic, who to vote for. They can suggest, but they cannot bind.

Who do you think put Obama in the White House, not once, but twice?

The Church certainly does tell you who you can NOT vote for. You can’t vote for a politician who supports intrinsic evils, unless their opponent is actually worse on those topics.

And it’s true, Obama was put into the White House by Catholics who rejected Church teaching.

 

[Mary_Gail_36]

Original post where it’s commented in a quote that the “Pope is the Anti-Christ”:

It’s suggested in this post that her name might be Italian:

Being descended 100% from Italians I think I demonstrated sufficiently that the “Anti-Christ” commenter is not Italian-American …
keeping in mind your comment Mary Gail, does it matter if an innocent person is accused of a crime and hanged without a trial?

For what it’s worth, I don’t think De Lemus is Italian either. I’m not sure why it was brought up to begin with, and why it is ironic.

Toto’ ,the comedic actor, had the last name De Curtis. It doesn’t follow because his last name was De Curtis that Tony Curtis is also Italian. (That’s an example…Tony Curtis hasn’t been mentioned in this thread)

 

[Path_Finder]

Listed as a Catalan surname: surnames.org/cognoms/llista.htm very possibly; the point was brought up that with her last name as DeLemus, it sounds like their could be some Catholicism somewhere in Jerry DeLemus’ family. It made me wonder if she could have started a rift in saying that.

I believe Susan is married to Jerry. So whether Jerry is a practicing Catholic, I don’t know but one would think it is in his background.

 

[Path_Finder]

Original post where it’s commented in a quote that the “Pope is the Anti-Christ”:

It’s suggested in this post that her name might be Italian:

Being descended 100% from Italians I think I demonstrated sufficiently that the “Anti-Christ” commenter is not Italian-American …
keeping in mind your comment Mary Gail, does it matter if an innocent person is accused of a crime and hanged without a trial?

And I think I have 100% demonstrated that the anti-Christ commentator is not a Spanish name nor a Mexican name!

 

[Theo520]

Yes, as far as I am concerned the dust up between the Pope and Trump is old news, but if this anti-Catholic theme gets traction in his campaign, that’s a problem for Trump, not to mention a little awkward for Trump supporters who are Catholic. And, of course, it highlights the very radical elements behind him, religion aside.

I don’t see how it’s a problem for Trump, unless he pushes it (and he won’t).

The problem is that the media may keep bringing it up, and paint the Church with a broad brush stroke that is not positive.

 

[J_Peterson]

"“I’m really not a respecter of men. It’s really God I respect, and he’s the head and the leader.”

What a silly statement. So he doesn’t respect himself, his constituents, or Christ Himself? God loves man, shouldn’t we respect that which God loves?

 

[queenofheartscv]

I don’t see how it’s a problem for Trump, unless he pushes it (and he won’t).

The problem is that the media may keep bringing it up, and paint the Church with a broad brush stroke that is not positive.

This will in no way hurt Trump, nor should it.

 

[Path_Finder]

I don’t see how it’s a problem for Trump, unless he pushes it (and he won’t).

The problem is that the media may keep bringing it up, and paint the Church with a broad brush stroke that is not positive.

A state representative; as someone pointed out, this virtually means nothing. Who ran the article? Politico? They are considered to be slanted.

 

[John_Lazarus]

For what it’s worth, I don’t think De Lemus is Italian either. I’m not sure why it was brought up to begin with, and why it is ironic.

Toto’ ,the comedic actor, had the last name De Curtis. It doesn’t follow because his last name was De Curtis that Tony Curtis is also Italian. (That’s an example…Tony Curtis hasn’t been mentioned in this thread)

“Tony Curtis” is a stage name. His birth name was Bernard Schwartz. I don’t think he’s Italian either (Bernardo Nero?)

I don’t believe it has been mentioned, but a lot of “de” names are of Norman (de Burgh, de Nogent) or Dutch (de Groot, de Witt) origin, or are an affectation (Daniel Foe → Daniel Defoe).

 

[TaurusRex]

“Tony Curtis” is a stage name. His birth name was Bernard Schwartz. I don’t think he’s Italian either (Bernardo Nero?)

I don’t believe it has been mentioned, but a lot of “de” names are of Norman (de Burgh, de Nogent) or Dutch (de Groot, de Witt) origin, or are an affectation (Daniel Foe → Daniel Defoe).

Although I didn’t know his real name, I have heard that “Bernardo” is Jewish, not Italian.
On those northern European *“de”*s, again I think that’s the French touch …

Also on Toto, his real father’s name was Marquis De Curtis:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tot%C3%B2

he managed to have Marquis Francesco Maria Gagliardi Focas adopt him in exchange for a life annuity.[5] As a consequence, when Marquis de Curtis recognized him, Totò had become an heir of two noble families, hence claiming an impressive slew of titles. In 1946, when the Consulta Araldica—the body that advised the Kingdom of Italy on matters of nobility—ceased operations, the Tribunal of Naples recognized his numerous titles, so his complete name was changed from Antonio Clemente to Antonio Griffo Focas Flavio Ducas Komnenos Gagliardi de Curtis of Byzantium, His Imperial Highness, Palatine Count, Knight of the Holy Roman Empire, Exarch of Ravenna, Duke of Macedonia and Illyria, Prince of Constantinople, Cilicia, Thessaly, Pontus, Moldavia, Dardania, Peloponnesus, Count of Cyprus and Epirus, Count and Duke of Drivasto and Durazzo.

The French did occupy northern Italy before the unification …
Isn’t “Marquis” a French name or title?
Toto comically gained a two foot long name from his foster father.

PS:
Before Path_Finder tops me again, isn’t “Lazarus” Italian?

PPS:
For those that don’t know, Napoleone di Bonaparte was considered more Italian than French having been born on the island of Corsica shortly after its purchase by France from Genoa.

 

[John_Lazarus]

Although I didn’t know his real name, I have heard that “Bernardo” is Jewish, not Italian.
On those northern European *“de”*s, again I think that’s the French touch …

Also on Toto, his real father’s name was Marquis De Curtis:

The French did occupy northern Italy before the unification …
Isn’t “Marquis” a French name or title?
Toto comically gained a two foot long name from his foster father.

PS:
Before Path_Finder tops me again, isn’t “Lazarus” Italian?

Hebrew (Eleazar) via Latin. I don’t think Jesus had any Italian friends. Roman, maybe… . “A reading from the letter of Paul to Philemon. Yo, Phil! Paulie. How YOU doin’?..”

I would think the Italian is Lazaro. I had a Romanian friend whose surname was Lazar.

Lazarus isn’t my surname, it’s a nod to the man Jesus raised from the dead, as I had a came-back-from-the-dead-ish experience.

 

[TaurusRex]

Hebrew (Eleazar) via Latin. I don’t think Jesus had any Italian friends. Roman, maybe… . “A reading from the letter of Paul to Philemon. Yo, Phil! Paulie. How YOU doin’?..”

I would think the Italian is Lazaro. I had a Romanian friend whose surname was Lazar.

Lazarus isn’t my surname, it’s a nod to the man Jesus raised from the dead, as I had a came-back-from-the-dead-ish experience.

Wow
It’s because I put the accent on the “ZAR” instead of the “LAZ” …
didn’t even dawn on me that it was the guy Jesus raised from the dead.

Read it La ZAIR us.