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You do realize, of course, that this is a Catholic forum? Teachings that go against the teaching of the Roman Catholic Church aren’t acceptable, even if your intention is to help someone.
Hello Christy.

If you will look at my intial posting, you will see that I offered no teaching at all. I merely offered a book that might be helpful in discerning how scripture looks at the issue. What you quoted from is from an answer from a person who claimed that I was teaching against my church’s teaching, which I most assuredly am not. I merely was drawn into explaining that.

I respect that the RCC believes otherwise, and as you know this subject has been discussed a good deal on this forum by RC’s and non. I don’t suggest that anyone who is Catholic refrain from following their teachings. I believe that in fairness and in the effort to reach a conclusion about truth, an open mind and a wide reading of interpretation makes for the best decision.

Blessings to you.
 
You say no other group is required to give up sex for life just to be in agreement with God. THERE IS ONLY ONE OTHER GROUP. A man or woman is either straight or homosexual. Those who stay they are both lie only to themselves.
I have no clue what you mean. I was referring to homosexuals. I never mentioned bisexual people.
I am not a catholic, but I give credit to the CC for their stand on homosexuality. God says it is a sin so case closed. Who are you to doubt the Word of God of change it to what you want it to say, ignoring what it says.
You are free to agree with what you believe is correct. But the point is, I don’t agree that God ever said “it” is a sin. We obviously interpret things a good deal differently.
Don’t you realize that if you pretend homosexuality is not a sin, and don’t ask to be forgiven for it, that when you die in the flesh, because you have unforgiven sin you will be cast into the fires of hell.
I don’t pretend anything, and thanks for concern for my soul. I understand exactly where you come from.
God sent his Son to die so that you have a way of escaping the fires of hell. All God wants us to do is say we are sorry. Yet, if a man or woman defiantly chooses to live in sin, standing on his or her own self righteousness established in our love of sin, then the flames of hell will engulf their souls on the day they leave this earth.
Move from the desires of the flesh, it is how the enemy of God steals the souls of men and women.
Yes I see your position quite clearly.
 
Spirit medow

I am not the first one to disagree with your initial post. Yet, you say nothing about that one. Why start with mine? We are here to encourage each other to live Godly lives. Homosexual acts, and the failure to turn away from that sort of life, is against God’s word. We can’t compormise that and still call ourselves His people.
 
I do agree that many RCC teachings can be difficult for many people to adher to, and the sacrifice cannot always be easy, in fact it may be very difficult. However, in most every case these are matters of choice. And when choices turn out to be incorrect, there are solutions that don’t involve enforced celibacy. Priests and nuns can request release from vows, marriages that have gone awry can be desolved via annulment, people can lower their sometimes lofty requirements as to an appropriate spouse.

Homosexuals are not so by choice, they are made that way, as a product of probable genetic and socio/environmental factors. To impose such a non choice on them is to my mind unconscionable, and I don’t think that the bible, properly understood would necessarily disagree today. We have plenty of precedent for determining that certain “laws” are no longer appropriate in our society today.

But my point was merely to offer the OP that there are more than one opinion on such matters, and that is clear even within the RCC. There are blogs out there, such as the Wild Reed which is deeply Catholic yet deeply working to change the mind and heart of the Church. My own Church is not settled on the issue, but is moving toward the compassionate and I believe correct position of honoring committed loving relationships period without worry about sexual identification.

I do however appreciate that you think differently. If it were a choice, I might well think differently.
The Church will never change its understanding of homosexual “actions.”

People born as homosexuals do have a choice in regards to sexual action, one of them is a sin.

Think of teenagers who are not yet able to marry. They are not able to have sex with anyone, and they were born with that attraction.

I have a feeling your understanding of Catholicism is not quite on target. If you are Catholic, you believe that the Magisterium and the Pope have authority given by Christ over faith and morals. In other words, what they say goes. To claim one teaching is not alright is to deny the authority of the Pope and the Bishops.

To deny that authority is to deny (or at least put into question) everything the Church has ever taught. Perhaps “Wild Reed” is not overstepping its bounds in trying to change a Church that is 2000 years old.

I heard an analogy once: Telling the Church it is wrong is like a 5 year old telling a 65 year old PhD Botanist that the grass should be pink.
 
Spirit medow

I am not the first one to disagree with your initial post. Yet, you say nothing about that one. Why start with mine? We are here to encourage each other to live Godly lives. Homosexual acts, and the failure to turn away from that sort of life, is against God’s word. We can’t compormise that and still call ourselves His people.
Christy Beth,

My intial post was to the OP. After that, I answered those who addressed me in particular. Did I miss someone? I thought I answered everyone, including you. We are most assuredly here to help and encourage each other. But it is your opinion, which I don’t quarrel with, that homosexual acts are against God’s “word”. I dont agree. I expect you to adher to your church’s teaching, and only ask that you respect the fact that others don’t agree and have their own opinion.

But I agree, we can never compromise our understanding of what God asks of us and still be considered a follower.
 
I do agree that many RCC teachings can be difficult for many people to adher to, and the sacrifice cannot always be easy, in fact it may be very difficult. However, in most every case these are matters of choice. And when choices turn out to be incorrect, there are solutions that don’t involve enforced celibacy. Priests and nuns can request release from vows, marriages that have gone awry can be desolved via annulment, people can lower their sometimes lofty requirements as to an appropriate spouse.
I just want to point out that priests and nuns that are released from all their vows still need to be celibate unless they marry. There are very few former religious who originally chose to take a lifelong vow of chastity, was released from that vow, and married.

Also, an annulment is not a dissolution of a marriage that previously existed, it is merely an acknowledgement that a certain marriage was never valid at all. Thus, a valid marriage cannot be dissolved via annulment.
Homosexuals are not so by choice, they are made that way, as a product of probable genetic and socio/environmental factors. To impose such a non choice on them is to my mind unconscionable, and I don’t think that the bible, properly understood would necessarily disagree today. We have plenty of precedent for determining that certain “laws” are no longer appropriate in our society today.
As someone who has SSA, I would agree that homosexuals are not attracted to their own sex because of their choice. However, there are many others who for various reasons cannot, or at least should not marry. This does not give them license to do what they are driven to do.
 
I do agree that many RCC teachings can be difficult for many people to adher to, and the sacrifice cannot always be easy, in fact it may be very difficult. However, in most every case these are matters of choice. And when choices turn out to be incorrect, there are solutions that don’t involve enforced celibacy. Priests and nuns can request release from vows, marriages that have gone awry can be desolved via annulment, people can lower their sometimes lofty requirements as to an appropriate spouse.
As another poster pointed out, valid marriages can never be dissolved. But in any event, I think hinging our morality on whether or not someone has a choice in the situation they find themselves in is a dangerous precedent. Women do not choose to be raped or develop life-threatening complications during pregnancy, yet we know it would be grievious of them to abort their children. Women do not choose to have their husbands lie or cheat or leave, but if they were validly married, then they are also required to remain celibate for the rest of their lives. Likewise, women may not choose to experience same sex attraction, but it would do a great disservice to these women to permit or encourage them to engage in homosexual acts when we know that this endangers their soul.

Janet Smith once spoke about the difficulties and frustration that some married men were experiencing with the Church’s teaching on contraception. To be sure, a lot of people find that teaching to be very difficult. And though she’s coming at this question from a slightly different perspective, her advice speaks volumes to the OP’s predicament.
Recently I have received a couple of heart-wrenching letters from married men whose wives are suffering from severe medical maladies that make further child-bearing truly life-threatening. These conditions obscure the signs of fertility and thus make NFP impossible to practice (I have recommended expert advice on these matters). Home life becomes increasingly unpleasant due to the stress of anxiety about pregnancy and/or the deprivations of abstinence. These individuals have previously embraced enthusiastically the truth of Humanae Vitae and even witnessed of its truth to others, but find that their current circumstances have made them reconsider: they think their situations permit use of contraceptives or even “temporary sterilizations.”

My response to one of them included the following: “I am not married and thus cannot personally attest to the difficulties of very prolonged abstinence within marriage though you and others have convinced me it must be very difficult indeed. I can, though, attest to the difficulty of a life without a spouse, with no sexual intercourse at all and perhaps even more difficult – no constant intimate companionship, no shared life. I do not mean to say my life is miserable – it is not; indeed, generally, it is quite satisfying and sometimes even spectacularly wonderful, but it lacks elements that are extremely appealing, the absence of which I can experience intensely (but as long as I am doing God’s will, what does it matter how happy I think I am?). From testimonies of a friend who suffers from a homosexual orientation and who is trying to lead a chaste life, I think that individuals such as he have perhaps the hardest time of all. You have the prospect of sexual relations at least at some time of the month (it would seem that no matter how irregular your wife’s cycles or unreliable her signs, there must be a period at least at the end of the cycle that would be reliably infertile) or in the future, when your wife is postmenopausal. My homosexual friend has no prospects ever unless he undergoes a reversal of his desires and until then and perhaps always, he must struggle with being “different” and even being a suspect guest in the homes of his friends with children.”

“Being a faithful Christian, striving to attain holiness, often, if not always, entails a great cross. That may explain why so many of those wanting to be radically faithful are faced with situations that greatly test their faithfulness. Those of us who are called to call others to lives of what they perceive to be heroic virtue (marriage without contraception, for instance) are likely to be asked ourselves to live lives of true heroic virtue (marriage with a great deal of abstinence). We need to walk the walk, as they say, and not just talk the talk.”

It is never easy to walk a mile in another’s shoes; it is very difficult for the single to understand the challenges of the married, for the married to understand the challenges of the consecrated life, of heterosexuals to understand the challenges of struggling with a homosexual orientation. Thus we should be wary of excusing ourselves when our vocations get difficult and of being more demanding of others than we are of ourselves. Unless we are uncompromisingly faithful to the demands of our vocations it is hypocritical and illogical for us to demand that others, who have some condition or are in some situation that makes marriage impossible, be faithful when they must forgo sexual intercourse, marriage or other goods so satisfying to the human person.
 
Wow…a question, though. Nodito says in his last post…"he must struggle with being “different” and even being a suspect guest in the homes of his friends with children.”

What is that all about?
 
Wow…a question, though. Nodito says in his last post…"he must struggle with being “different” and even being a suspect guest in the homes of his friends with children.”

What is that all about?
Without purporting to know what Janet Smith intended, I’d say her friend is different in the sense that he will never marry or have sex. In our culture, that’s radically different. It’s also possible that this friend of hers has experience with people distrusting him because of his struggles with same sex attraction. I thought it was clear that Janet Smith considered this fear unfounded.
 
Hi, Alicia.

I would suggest that you contact a nearby parish and see if they have resources that could help you.

For spiritmeadow - Tobias’ thinking is flawed. For full disclosure, you must acknowledge that he is a gay, Anglican priest, so he has a horse in the race, so to speak.

That being said, Tobias also told me (on his blog) that Pope John Paul II got the “Theology of the Body” all wrong.

Why you would suggest Tobias’ book to someone leaning toward the Catholic Church is curious.
 
I just want to point out that priests and nuns that are released from all their vows still need to be celibate unless they marry. There are very few former religious who originally chose to take a lifelong vow of chastity, was released from that vow, and married.

Also, an annulment is not a dissolution of a marriage that previously existed, it is merely an acknowledgement that a certain marriage was never valid at all. Thus, a valid marriage cannot be dissolved via annulment.

As someone who has SSA, I would agree that homosexuals are not attracted to their own sex because of their choice. However, there are many others who for various reasons cannot, or at least should not marry. This does not give them license to do what they are driven to do.
If you claim that the statistics are that those priests and nuns who ask for release of vows don’t marry usually, I’ll take your word for it. I know of only 4 cases personally, and in each case they did marry.

I know that the RCC claims that the annulled person was “never married.” Fraid that most people don’t exactly agree with that claim, but I agree that the RCC does claim it.
 
As another poster pointed out, valid marriages can never be dissolved. But in any event, I think hinging our morality on whether or not someone has a choice in the situation they find themselves in is a dangerous precedent. Women do not choose to be raped or develop life-threatening complications during pregnancy, yet we know it would be grievious of them to abort their children. Women do not choose to have their husbands lie or cheat or leave, but if they were validly married, then they are also required to remain celibate for the rest of their lives. Likewise, women may not choose to experience same sex attraction, but it would do a great disservice to these women to permit or encourage them to engage in homosexual acts when we know that this endangers their soul.

Janet Smith once spoke about the difficulties and frustration that some married men were experiencing with the Church’s teaching on contraception. To be sure, a lot of people find that teaching to be very difficult. And though she’s coming at this question from a slightly different perspective, her advice speaks volumes to the OP’s predicament.
I understand your position, but many people, you must admit, do not see the situation as you do or as your church does. They don’t agree that God holds people to such impossible and difficult standards, and believe that the RCC wrongly interprets scripture to reach this position. I do however respect that you agree with your church’s teaching in the matter.

It pains me to read these testamonials of sacrifice, which I personally find unnecessary and I believe God weeps for such misunderstandings. It is always much easier to gently and compassionately advise others what they must do when it doesn’t touch one personally. I cannot imagine the difficulties of the average GLBT person, or the rape victim or the woman mistreated by a philandering and perhaps abusive husband. I wouldn’t be able to ask them to “endure” based on someone’s interpretation of scripture, albeit how old and traditional it might be claimed to be. I simply don’t believe that God requires this type of sacrifice, for mistakes honestly made, and moreso for things that are not within the control of the person.
 
Hi, Alicia.

I would suggest that you contact a nearby parish and see if they have resources that could help you.

For spiritmeadow - Tobias’ thinking is flawed. For full disclosure, you must acknowledge that he is a gay, Anglican priest, so he has a horse in the race, so to speak.

That being said, Tobias also told me (on his blog) that Pope John Paul II got the “Theology of the Body” all wrong.

Why you would suggest Tobias’ book to someone leaning toward the Catholic Church is curious.
I disclosed that Tobias Haller is an Anglican priest. That he is gay is obvious a well. To say that he has a horse in the race is to say nothing theologically, since every writer has a “horse” in the race about the subject he writes about, namely his own opinion of the evidence. Haller’s research is extensive, his knowledge of scriptural history is broad, and frankly, he is backed up by dozens of other equally fine scholars.

You claim his thinking is flawed, but you don’t prove the allegation. I would assume that JPII’s theology would have to be flawed given Haller’s position. That would go without saying. What was the point of including that?

I suggested the book because it doesn’t approach the subject in the usual way, by showing how the activity not permitted in the Bible is not what we conceive of as homosexual behavior today. Moreover it doesn’t attack the truthfullness of the scriptures as such, such as claiming that some Pauline books are not Pauline in fact as a means to reduce the “anti-gay” scriptureal evidence.

Haller did, and quite brilliantly in my opinion, take the scriptures as given as they are and showed how in some cases they are not meant to relate to gentiles, and in other instances are no differnent that other doctrines that are innunciated in the bible that we no longer follow today because they are not practical or not in keeping with modern society.

I think everyone has a right to know that there are other voices out there, and they don’t all speak the same. If you prefer, she may like to visit. thewildreed.blogspot.com/ which is run by a gay Catholic man. The resources there are extensive.
 
I understand your position, but many people, you must admit, do not see the situation as you do or as your church does. They don’t agree that God holds people to such impossible and difficult standards, and believe that the RCC wrongly interprets scripture to reach this position. I do however respect that you agree with your church’s teaching in the matter.

It pains me to read these testamonials of sacrifice, which I personally find unnecessary and I believe God weeps for such misunderstandings. It is always much easier to gently and compassionately advise others what they must do when it doesn’t touch one personally. I cannot imagine the difficulties of the average GLBT person, or the rape victim or the woman mistreated by a philandering and perhaps abusive husband. I wouldn’t be able to ask them to “endure” based on someone’s interpretation of scripture, albeit how old and traditional it might be claimed to be. I simply don’t believe that God requires this type of sacrifice, for mistakes honestly made, and moreso for things that are not within the control of the person.
Spiritmeadow, you say you cringe at my Church’s harsh standards, but I find it equally regrettable that you won’t see past their emotionally-charged situations to realize that love doesn’t mean giving a person whatever will feel good.

In my above post, I provided fairly extreme situations, but what of those less severe situations that may be equally difficult for some? Take, for example, a teenage male who is too young or immature to get married but is finding it difficult to remain chaste with his curent girlfriend. Perhaps he feels that it is “impossible” for him to remain abstinent for the next five years, and that the Church’s standards are unreasonable and archaic. Is it truly impossible for him to wait? What would you advise him? Does God weep when I tell this young man that sex is made for marriage? Does this impose on him an unfair burden?

In truth, to tell him that sex before of marriage is acceptable, given his very real temptations, would be to harm this young man and those that he loves. It puts him at risk for sexually-transmitted disease, parenting as a teenager, and emtional heartbreak. It hurts the young lady he has interocurse with by putting her in a position where she may be tempted to commit even greater sins. It hurts his future wife by depriving her of the gift of his virginity. In short, the Church tells us that things are wrong, not because she seeks to impose impossible standards on us, but because these things hurt us. Our loving God, who made our hearts and our minds, who knows how much we can and cannot bear, founded the Catholic Church and speaks through it. That some sacrifices are required - even very great ones - is not so much a product of faulty scriptual interpretation as it is the sad fact of sin in our world.
 
God often asks us to give up what seems the hardest for us to do. SSA isnt’ a sin, but acting on it is. You cannot take communion if you are living in sin and refusing to give it up. Also, no confession is valid if not all sins are confessed with the attitude of repentence. If you don’t plan on giving it up, don’t confess it. But if you don’t confess it, where dos that leave you?

I am happy that you believe in Jesus. And I will pray for your son. Other than that, I will pray that God give you a heart of repentence.
This is what I was taught also. There is a psychological component to being attracted to the same sex. Science is proving that not all ‘‘choices’’ we make in life are under our control. Sexual orientation is one of those things, but with patience, kindness of others and prayer God can provide lasting relationships with opposite sex partners and with a repentant heart,maybe,if you offer it up as a sufferig to God, He can and will forgive the ‘‘transgression’’. Otherwise, without some sort of change of behavior,the sin of lust and the self satisfaction and self centered act of homosexual behavior in the eyes of the church cannot and will not be forgiven. It’s Vatican II’s position on homosexuality.
You are in my prayers. Itis not for me to pass judgement upon you,God will decide what will happen when the Final Judgement comes. I hope God can forgive us ALL our every last sin and make us at peace and one with Him.
May God be with you always.
 
SpiritMeadow, we can debate Tobias’ justification for his life choices in another thread, if you’d like to start one.

My point was that mentioning his writings to someone coming here for the Catholic perspective about a struggle in her life isn’t useful, as he is not offering the Catholic perspective.

Alicia, sorry to briefly hijack your thread. We know God loves you. We know that he loves all of us. Go with that, and explore what this pull from the Church is all about. Find out more and see where this leads.
 
Spiritmeadow, you say you cringe at my Church’s harsh standards, but I find it equally regrettable that you won’t see past their emotionally-charged situations to realize that love doesn’t mean giving a person whatever will feel good.

In my above post, I provided fairly extreme situations, but what of those less severe situations that may be equally difficult for some? Take, for example, a teenage male who is too young or immature to get married but is finding it difficult to remain chaste with his curent girlfriend. Perhaps he feels that it is “impossible” for him to remain abstinent for the next five years, and that the Church’s standards are unreasonable and archaic. Is it truly impossible for him to wait? What would you advise him? Does God weep when I tell this young man that sex is made for marriage? Does this impose on him an unfair burden?

In truth, to tell him that sex before of marriage is acceptable, given his very real temptations, would be to harm this young man and those that he loves. It puts him at risk for sexually-transmitted disease, parenting as a teenager, and emtional heartbreak. It hurts the young lady he has interocurse with by putting her in a position where she may be tempted to commit even greater sins. It hurts his future wife by depriving her of the gift of his virginity. In short, the Church tells us that things are wrong, not because she seeks to impose impossible standards on us, but because these things hurt us. Our loving God, who made our hearts and our minds, who knows how much we can and cannot bear, founded the Catholic Church and speaks through it. That some sacrifices are required - even very great ones - is not so much a product of faulty scriptual interpretation as it is the sad fact of sin in our world.
I appreciate your beliefs and feelings. I don’t think my feeling about it is emotion laced. I simply don’t believe that a class of people must be permanently denied a human experience through no fault of their own, and certainly not of their choosing.

I’m not sure that I necessarily agree that sex is made for marriage, but assuming that is true, I don’t have any issue with counseling someone that waiting for the "right’ person is a better choice oftentimes than certainly indiscriminate sexual liasons of no import. But again, what I would counsel a young person is not what I would counsel an adult.

I don’t have problems with such counseling of the young to avoid sexual behavior that can cause more serious problems down the road. And most churchs I believe do just that. However, I think that the RCC is hampered in a sense by its desire to claim that it never errs in matters of faith and morals. This sets in stone forever decisions made hundreds and sometimes thousands of years ago, which may have seemed right and good then, but were made with insufficient evidence, scientific and otherwise which we now possess. We have left behind some things as a result already, and no doubt will do more in the future. I think the issue of same-sex marriage needs to be revisted with a clearer eye based on the biblical exegesis we have available to us. I don’t think that Paul and Liviticus were talking about the same issues or things were are today.

I have no doubt that God makes every attempt to speak from the RCC as he does through all churches and faiths. But I am afraid that sometimes we humans don’t get it right. We must, in my opinion always be open to growing in our understanding, and changing when we believe we have misinterpreted the past. I recognize that in the RCC this is a hard thing to do, yet I see many “liberal” Catholics doing their best to try to accomplish that.

Blessings to you, and thanks for such a thoughtful reply.
 
SpiritMeadow, we can debate Tobias’ justification for his life choices in another thread, if you’d like to start one.

My point was that mentioning his writings to someone coming here for the Catholic perspective about a struggle in her life isn’t useful, as he is not offering the Catholic perspective.

Alicia, sorry to briefly hijack your thread. We know God loves you. We know that he loves all of us. Go with that, and explore what this pull from the Church is all about. Find out more and see where this leads.
I accept your criticism as well meant. Perhaps she will find The Wild Reed thewildreed.blogspot.com more to her liking, coming as it does from a Catholic perspective.
 
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spiritmeadow:
I simply don’t believe that a class of people must be permanently denied a human experience through no fault of their own, and certainly not of their choosing.
What struck me when I read this was how much I am looking forward to being a mother. My husband and I are trying to get pregnant and although many will say (and have said) that pregnancy is no walk in the park, I for one am really looking forward to seeing my child on an ultrasound and feeling him kick for the first time and being able to rock and nurse him when he arrives. To me, motherhood represents a very basic but very wonderful human experience.

My husband, along with every other man on this planet, has been permanently denied this human experience of motherhood, through no fault of his own, and certainly not of his choosing. Fatherhood is also a wonderful human experience, but it is different, and I don’t think it’s outlandish to suggest that you could probably find some men who would have enjoyed bonding with their children the way their wives were able to.

God has denied men the ability to bear children, simply by virtue of their nature. I don’t think it was cruel of him to have done this, nor do I think it is cruel for the Church today, knowing what she does about human nature, to say “Sorry guys, you can’t be mothers.” When she does this, she is not oppressing men or denying them a wonderful human experience; rather, she’s observing that given what we know about the way God designed us, he never intended for men to be mothers.

In a similar way, the Church does not wish to deny anyone the wonderful human experience of marriage or sexual intercourse. But given what we know about natural law (namely that the male and female sexual organs are complementary to each other and designed to be procreative), she says that sexual intercourse must only take place between a man and a woman within marriage, so as to preserve these two ends and have a foundation for the resultant offspring.

Have you read anything about natural law? I’m new to it myself but was suprised when I discovered it by how reasonable it is. This article, called Natural Law and Sexual Ethics, doesn’t deal with homosexuality but I found it interesting nonetheless: goodmorals.org/smith5.htm

In any event, spiritmeadow, I do really appreciate how respectful your posts have been to me.
 
Hi. Thought you might need prayer support or education about same-sex attraction.

Visit
sorrowfulhearts.com/

for answers or help. It’s a great guide and they will pray for you daily.
Aunt Tricia’s right. If you want a true Catholic persepctive.

The problem with Meadow’s way of thinking is that no one is condemning ssa sufferers to a life of celibacy. Once true healing begins ssa urges deminish and very often the arrested natural heterosexual development begins again.

This page explains a lot: sorrowfulhearts.com/same-sex_attraction_education.html
So in reality sites like Meadow suggest actually condemn SSA sufferers with their false thinking that “you either are or you’re not gay.” If we used that criteria for other psychological/emotional disorders or psychic response/learned behaviorr no one would ever seek healing for such things as depression, alcoholism, OCD, cleptomania and more.

" …but an individual can come to understand the origins of his or her own same-sex attractions through insight gained in therapy.
Our character is the net result of our choices and life experience. An article in Harvest News stated, “Some of us are shy, some anxious, some have problems with anger or chemical dependence, some of us fear commitment. Did we ‘choose’ any of these things? Actually, all of our adult personality is the result of a complex interplay of heredity and family environment with thousands of small personal decisions dating back as far as we can remember. The results are deeply entrenched ways of feeling, thinking, acting.” Although you may have had no control over the emergence of homosexual attractions, you can choose how to respond to them…"


and through prayer and therapy you can get to the bottom of the why SSA developed and with that knowledge comes the power not only to control the urges, but to change the psychic response they trigger.

PRAY PRAY PRAY - and study but only with a true desire to know God’s Wil.
The most compassionate response to encourage SSA sufferers to follow Church teaching, draw strength from the sacraments, forgive themselves (no matter how many times they fall) and seek true healing.
 
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