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NABRE - New American Bible Revised Edition

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Official Release Date: Ash Wednesday, March 9, 2011.Saint Benedict Press is a proud publisher the New American Bible: Revised Edition (NABRE), the first major update to the New American Bible (NAB) text in 20 years. After years of scholarly labor and review, the NABRE is approved for publication by the USCCB for release in a variety of formats on Ash Wednesday, March 9, 2011.
The NABRE accomplishes three major goals in Biblical scholarship: First, a more accurate translation aided by modern archeological and historical discoveries; second, a more consistent rendering of the Greek and Hebrew to more closely express the meaning of the original text; and third, revisions in the NABRE reflect changes in modern English usage of particular words (ex. burnt offering substituted for holocaust ).
Saint Benedict Press is debuting the New American Bible: Revised Edition (NABRE) in three handsome editions Black Premium UltraSoft, Burgundy Hardbound, and Quality Paperbound. Each includes extensive notes, commentary, cross-references (a first from Saint Benedict Press!), a 3-year cycle of readings for Sunday and weekday Masses, and favorite Catholic prayers.
 
I hope this edition is a flop.

The advertisement for the “new” NAB is ridiculous. So many of us bought the previous edition and were disappointed.

And, now, their sales pitch is “here it is, buy it.”

They’d better tell me a whole lot more about this Bible than is shown in that blurb.

I was terribly disappointed with both the previous NAB and with the subsequent NAB study Bible – that was ridiculous, I threw it out.

So, under whose scholarship were the revised translations done? and, who is responsible for the commentary? What does the index of the book look like? What additional features are in the book?

Nope, nothing. Just “here it is, buy it.”
 
Crumpy said:
I hope this edition is a flop.

The advertisement for the “new” NAB is ridiculous. So many of us bought the previous edition and were disappointed.

And, now, their sales pitch is “here it is, buy it.”

They’d better tell me a whole lot more about this Bible than is shown in that blurb.

I was terribly disappointed with both the previous NAB and with the subsequent NAB study Bible – that was ridiculous, I threw it out.

So, under whose scholarship were the revised translations done? and, who is responsible for the commentary? What does the index of the book look like? What additional features are in the book?

Nope, nothing. Just “here it is, buy it.”
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Crumpy puttin on the hate!

Well, cant say I blame you. On MCCORP45’s site he keeps putting up excerpts from it next to the RSV and I while I do think its not too bad, it still lacks the directness and literary eloquence the RSV even after all these years of revisions. Im pretty sure that Great Britain is going to a modified version of the NRSV (probably to get rid of the ridiculous gender neutrality **** along with some other details) and Canadia is already there. I think we should just follow suit because though it has some glaring problems, the translation base is excellent. Certainly superior to the NAB. Those problems are easily solved and finally we have a great translation to read in Church. I would say I just dont know why we keep going to the NAB but I think I do, and its all about the Benjamins sad to say. USCCB wants their royalties. So we reap the ‘rewards’.
 
Here’s an article that goes into a little more detail:
catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1100418.htm

The part I found interesting was:
The publication of the revised Bible also reinvigorates an ongoing dispute between the Catholic Biblical Association and the Confraternity of Christian Doctrine, a separately incorporated entity whose membership is composed of the members of the USCCB Administrative Committee. The confraternity licenses religious and spiritual literature.
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For decades, the association received payments from the confraternity for sales of Bibles and other publications that use the NAB translation. Payments – which the association said represented 25 percent of the income from licensing – but were stopped in 2008 while the confraternity sought changes in the arrangement.
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The two sides entered into the process of conciliation provided for under canon law. Both the USCCB and Father Jensen declined to comment on the specifics of the case.
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Clairvaux said:
Check this out!

NABRE - New American Bible Revised Edition

tanbooks.com/index.php/page/shop:flypage/product_id/923/keywords/american+standard/

Official Release Date: Ash Wednesday, March 9, 2011.Saint Benedict Press is a proud publisher the New American Bible: Revised Edition (NABRE), the first major update to the New American Bible (NAB) text in 20 years. After years of scholarly labor and review, the NABRE is approved for publication by the USCCB for release in a variety of formats on Ash Wednesday, March 9, 2011.
The NABRE accomplishes three major goals in Biblical scholarship: First, a more accurate translation aided by modern archeological and historical discoveries; second, a more consistent rendering of the Greek and Hebrew to more closely express the meaning of the original text; and third, revisions in the NABRE reflect changes in modern English usage of particular words (ex. burnt offering substituted for holocaust ).
Saint Benedict Press is debuting the New American Bible: Revised Edition (NABRE) in three handsome editions Black Premium UltraSoft, Burgundy Hardbound, and Quality Paperbound. Each includes extensive notes, commentary, cross-references (a first from Saint Benedict Press!), a 3-year cycle of readings for Sunday and weekday Masses, and favorite Catholic prayers.
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I think I’ll pass and stick with my Latin Vulgate and Douay-Rheims
 
please tell me the psalms have been retranslated to keep their character as sung poetry and the accuracy of the language, so they can be used in liturgy
 
puzzleannie said:
please tell me the psalms have been retranslated to keep their character as sung poetry and the accuracy of the language, so they can be used in liturgy
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From my link above,
In 2010 the bishops signed off on the latest revision of the Psalter, as the Book of Psalms is called.
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Digitonomy said:
From my link above,
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Yes, the Psalms will be completely new. At least for me, the biggest issue with the NAB has been the current Psalms which use both horizontal and vertical inclusive language and just plain read awkwardly. This new edition is said to be done according to Liturgiam Authenticam.

Ultimately, I will try to keep an open mind. I look forward to analyzing and reviewing it on my site.
 
I’ve been following a number of blogs on this, and frankly, I’m really stumped and confused. I too, purchased a copy of the NAB quite a few years back. Read through it one time, shaking my head in confusion as to why the Catholic Church uses this translation at all, when for so many years, the Rheims and RSV have been standards for so many.

This “new” translation, seems to only add to the mix of confusion, and again, bluntly, seems to be doing nothing more than adding some new cash flow to the publishing houses coffers. With so many translations, changes and discussions, it makes me really wonder if I should not just return to my “Rheims only” mentality, and stick with it until I actual meet my maker. 🙂
 
rotlex said:
I’ve been following a number of blogs on this, and frankly, I’m really stumped and confused. I too, purchased a copy of the NAB quite a few years back. Read through it one time, shaking my head in confusion as to why the Catholic Church uses this translation at all, when for so many years, the Rheims and RSV have been standards for so many.

This “new” translation, seems to only add to the mix of confusion, and again, bluntly, seems to be doing nothing more than adding some new cash flow to the publishing houses coffers. With so many translations, changes and discussions, it makes me really wonder if I should not just return to my “Rheims only” mentality, and stick with it until I actual meet my maker. 🙂
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I understand you completely. When I started reading the Bible I was reading the NAB that I got for graduation. Half way through I felt it spiritually lacking. I began to look for another translation that was more spiritually fulfilling. The Douay-Rheims was that Bible. Since then I pretty much read either the Douay-Rheims, Latin Vulgate or from my confraternity NT. The RSV-CE, although a good translation, I had some concerns as the original RSV was Protestant. If you feel that urge to only stick with the Douay-Rheims, I say go for it.
 
rotlex said:
I’ve been following a number of blogs on this, and frankly, I’m really stumped and confused. I too, purchased a copy of the NAB quite a few years back. Read through it one time, shaking my head in confusion as to why the Catholic Church uses this translation at all, when for so many years, the Rheims and RSV have been standards for so many.

This “new” translation, seems to only add to the mix of confusion, and again, bluntly, seems to be doing nothing more than adding some new cash flow to the publishing houses coffers. With so many translations, changes and discussions, it makes me really wonder if I should not just return to my “Rheims only” mentality, and stick with it until I actual meet my maker.
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There have always been a number of translations geared toward Catholics, and there will continue to be new ones in the future. Don’t let that be a cause for alarm in choosing a Bible for your personal use. For that matter, how do you decide which version of the Douay Rheims to use?

As for your disappointment with the NAB, I think it’s important to keep in mind its purpose. It is used to proclaim the readings during mass. The editors aimed for a slightly less complex grammar and vocabulary that will be understood by a wide range of congregants at mass, whether young in age, or foreign-born, or hard of hearing, or simply those of lower education level. They didn’t want a lot of unfamiliar words or difficult constructions going in one ear and out the other.

Outside of mass, looking at the written word, there is time to absorb a greater depth of meaning in scripture. While the NAB may be fine for middle school and high school students, most of us who are beyond that stage and serious about reading scripture - and especially those familiar enough with their faith to be regulars on CAF - will probably favor a different translation.
 
Digitonomy said:
There have always been a number of translations geared toward Catholics, and there will continue to be new ones in the future. Don’t let that be a cause for alarm in choosing a Bible for your personal use. For that matter, how do you decide which version of the Douay Rheims to use?

As for your disappointment with the NAB, I think it’s important to keep in mind its purpose. It is used to proclaim the readings during mass. The editors aimed for a slightly less complex grammar and vocabulary that will be understood by a wide range of congregants at mass, whether young in age, or foreign-born, or hard of hearing, or simply those of lower education level. They didn’t want a lot of unfamiliar words or difficult constructions going in one ear and out the other.

Outside of mass, looking at the written word, there is time to absorb a greater depth of meaning in scripture. While the NAB may be fine for middle school and high school students, most of us who are beyond that stage and serious about reading scripture - and especially those familiar enough with their faith to be regulars on CAF - will probably favor a different translation.
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I agree, and see all of your points as well. The NAB has been of particular frustration to me, as it is the first “new” Bible I had purchased in quite some time, quite a few years ago. I was returning to my faith in a big way, and was looking to begin reading the NAB, as I understood it being used for liturgy etc. After reading through in it’s entirety, I was left feeling very “bland”, if you will.

Forward over a few years, and I read through Rheims again, Challoner revision for reference, and the words spoke to me. It FELT like I was not only reading God’s word, but that he was speaking directly to me. It helped to bring me back to the Church, and my Catholic Faith, in a BIG way.

After that, I purchased a St. Benedict Press version of the RSV-CE, and just finished going through that a 2nd time not that long ago. In the end, I am torn between it and the Rheims. I like the way they both read, but, I admit, the RSV-CE’s usage of paragraphs, and this versions use of bold headers over subject changes within those paragraphs, if that makes sense, works pretty well for me. What I usually wind up doing, as I have a daily reading plan I have been following for quite some time, is have both open to the sections I’m reading, and reference one or the other when I become confused, or question something. I also refer to the notes in the Rheims far more often.

In the end though, I may pick up a copy of the new NAB, and wind up regretting it again, LOL. Either way, I guess it’s a good thing to be familiar with all the translations available.

Take care, thank you, and God bless!
 
Does anyone know if this revised version of the NAB will now match the text used in the Lectionary for the Mass? Based on the referenced advertisement link, I was not able to necessarily make that conclusion.

rocketrob
 
rocketrob said:
Does anyone know if this revised version of the NAB will now match the text used in the Lectionary for the Mass? Based on the referenced advertisement link, I was not able to necessarily make that conclusion.

rocketrob
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The New Testament is not changing in the NABRE, so it will continue to be used in the Mass in its modified version. The revised Old Testament will not be used in the Mass, the current Old Testament will remain the base text. The revised Psalms will not be used either. The Psalms that will be used in the Mass will be the Revised Grail Psalms.
 
The NABRE - Much Ado About Nothing. It’s ironic that no Catholic Bible can be found in the stores that corresponds to the Lectionary used at Mass, especially since the bishop’s conference holds the copyright. Interestingly, this latest version wasn’t sent to the Holy See for approval. Guess why?
-it retains the 1986 NT which contains such “scholarly” gems as: Romans 5:12, “as sin came into the world through one MAN”, “man” is changed to “PERSON” even though “MAN” refers to a specific person and is not being used as a generic. Not even the NRSV does that!
-Mark 9:36 “And he took a child, and put HIM in the midst,” 'HIM" is changed to “IT”. The child is neuterized. Both examples the result of, not scholarship, but feminist ideology.
-in Isaiah “VIRGIN” is changed to 'YOUNG WOMAN" A young woman having a child is quite common, hardly a “sign.”
-also in the OT, the “IDEAL WIFE” changed to “POEMS ON THE WOMAN OF WORTH.” We are told, “Women will like this: being measured by their OWN ACCOMPLISHMENTS, not in terms of a husband’s perspective.” Scholarship?
-The Book of Psalms uses the Revised Psalms, which the Holy See rejected, as a base text. They removed the vertical feminist language, but kept the rest.
This product was produced by many of the people who gave us the defective RNAB, e.g., Fr. Jensen OSB, who makes no secret of his commitment to feminist language and is a major critic of the Holy See’s attempts to ensure fidelity of translation.
In short, skip this "translation"and stay with the DR or the RSV-CE 2nd edition.
 
The_Monk said:
-it retains the 1986 NT which contains such “scholarly” gems as: Romans 5:12, “as sin came into the world through one MAN”, “man” is changed to “PERSON” even though “MAN” refers to a specific person and is not being used as a generic. Not even the NRSV does that!
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I have to agree with your assessment that “man” seems to refer to Adam based on the following verses. However, I would also have to pick a nit with Paul because sin first entered the world through Eve.

The Monk said:
-Mark 9:36 “And he took a child, and put HIM in the midst,” 'HIM" is changed to “IT”. The child is neuterized.
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Is there any reason to think the child was a boy? I’m not much of a student of Greek, but I would guess that like many languages, a generic child whose sex is not known would be referred to with the masculine word. The Darby Bible from the late 19th Century uses the same approach as the NAB on this verse.
 
rocketrob said:
Does anyone know if this revised version of the NAB will now match the text used in the Lectionary for the Mass? Based on the referenced advertisement link, I was not able to necessarily make that conclusion.

rocketrob
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The new revision is not intended to be used at mass, from what I understand. The closest thing to what is read at mass in the United States is the 1970 NAB Old Testament, the 1970 version of the NAB Psalms, and the 1986 version of the New Testament. But some changes were made in these for the Lectionary.

They no longer print the 1970 version of the Psalms, even though they are still being used at mass. I wonder if they’ll stop printing the 1970 Old Testament? If so, it will exacerbate an ongoing issue, and that is there is no English translation of the Bible that corresponds exactly with the United States Lectionary. We live in strange times.
 
anyone here think that this is a good translation to buy??? How about anyone think that the Douay-Rheims should be standard in lectionaries again
 
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