New Patriarch for the UGCC!

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Quick question:
Can the UGCC appoint bishops other than its primate without interference from the Papacy?
 
I knew it was official when his name was in the commemoration at this morning’s Divine Liturgy.

MANY YEARS!
 
Alexander_Roman said:
Many Years to the new Patriarch of the UGCC!

He’s a young man (40 years old) but I’m glad our bishops don’t engage in age discrimination!

As for his name “Svyatoslav,” there are three Saints with that name - all of royal background. One is a monk of the Kyivan Caves Lavra, St Mykola-Svyatoslav, (FD Second Sunday of Lent and Second Sunday of Pentecost) a prince, who is also called “Svyatosha.”

Also, St Svyatoslav II, Great High King of Kiev-Rus’. (The word “Kniaz” is a Slavicized version of the Scandinavian term for king or “konigyaz.”) And another St Sviatoslav Prince of Vladimir (June 23).

What represented a good amount of progress here is that the Synod forwarded ONLY one name to Rome for ratification rather than three of which the Pope would choose one.

Pope Benedict approved the Synod’s choice immediately and without equivocation.

The next and final step would be for formal recognition of the UGCC Patriarchate by Rome with its right to elect whom it wishes as its Patriarch without Roman approval (and potential veto).

Many years to the new Patriarch and many years to the Synod, Clergy, Monastics and Laity of the Ukrainian Catholic Church!

Alex
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Dear Alex:

I think the forwarding of 3 names happens only when the Pope chooses 1 among 3 persons recommended to be appointed a bishop in the diaspora.

On the other hand, the election of a Major Archbishop involves only one person to be confirmed by the Pope, as provided for in the current CCEO.
 
Amazing that they elected someone so young and one who doesn’t reside in Ukraine. Does this mean God is calling on the Ukrainian Church to fulfill her role to the world beyond Ukraine? I am hopeful that this is the start that the Byzantine Rite would grow in more places.
 
ConstantineTG said:
Why not? There were Great Vespers last night. I didn’t get to go though I wasn’t feeling well.
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The order for services for the Feast of the Annunciation is Great Vespers, Great Compline with Litia, Mattins, and a Vesperal Liturgy on the day of the Feast itself.

Annunciation is celebrated with an evening Liturgy because it is Lent, and an evening Liturgy allows for proper fasting throughout the day with the fast relaxed after the Liturgy, with fish, wine and oil allowed.

Hope your feeling better…and Happy Annunciation!
 
ciero said:
The order for services for the Feast of the Annunciation is Great Vespers, Great Compline with Litia, Mattins, and a Vesperal Liturgy on the day of the Feast itself.

Annunciation is celebrated with an evening Liturgy because it is Lent, and an evening Liturgy allows for proper fasting throughout the day with the fast relaxed after the Liturgy, with fish, wine and oil allowed.

Hope your feeling better…and Happy Annunciation!
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Well, you can take this up with the new Patriarch 😃
 
Curious though that St. Elias has Matins at 8am and Divine Liturgy at 10am for the Feast of the Annunciation. If AM Divine Liturgy for the Feast is good enough for St. Elias, its good enough for us 👍
 
ConstantineTG said:
Curious though that St. Elias has Matins at 8am and Divine Liturgy at 10am for the Feast of the Annunciation. If AM Divine Liturgy for the Feast is good enough for St. Elias, its good enough for us 👍
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If St. Elias was jumping off a bridge…? 😃
 
ConstantineTG said:
If jumping off a bridge means being orthodox/traditional… 😃
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I see that today is not the Feast of the Annunciation at St. Elias, but it is 13 days from now. I’ll need to have a look at the rubrics to see if there is a reason why they are doing it in the am…there are a lot of factors that play together especially with a feast in Lent. 😉

edit…I now see that Annunciation on the old calendar is also the Thursday of the Great Canon…I’m sure that has something to do with it.
 
ciero said:
I see that today is not the Feast of the Annunciation at St. Elias, but it is 13 days from now. I’ll need to have a look at the rubrics to see if there is a reason why they are doing it in the am…there are a lot of factors that play together especially with a feast in Lent. 😉
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Father was talking about it this morning during Homily, and more elaborate after Liturgy. He said if their instructor in the seminary wants to fail them, he’ll ask them a question about celebrating Annunciation. In any case, I trust his and the Bishop’s knowledge on the matter and about this morning’s Divine Liturgy.

Yes, St. Elias is celebrating on the old calendar/Julian.
 
Well the newly elected Head of the Ukrainian Catholic Church is to visit Rome and meet with the Pope this month, as here:

risu.org.ua/en/index/all_news/catholics/ugcc/41427/

…so I guess the Bishop goes straight from surprise at his election to meeting HH Benedict XVI all within the timespan of one week.

Mnohaya i Blahaya Lita ! 🙂
 
Mnohaya i blahaya lita to our new patriarch! I’m Ruthenian so I’m technically not under his jurisdiction, but he’s the closest Patriarch there is to us, so he really is our spiritual father too, just like the Pope is a bit more remotely. I feel perfectly comfortable saying that we have gained a new patriarch no less than the Ukrainians have. His elevation is a blessing to all of us.
 
Cecilianus said:
Mnohaya i blahaya lita to our new patriarch! I’m Ruthenian so I’m technically not under his jurisdiction, but he’s the closest Patriarch there is to us, so he really is our spiritual father too, just like the Pope is a bit more remotely. I feel perfectly comfortable saying that we have gained a new patriarch no less than the Ukrainians have. His elevation is a blessing to all of us.
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The Ruthenian church should really return to it’s roots and rejoin the Ukrainians, then they too will have a Patriarch! 😃
 
ciero said:
The Ruthenian church should really return to it’s roots and rejoin the Ukrainians… 😃
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I suppose that one could spin a version of history that would allow that comment to make some sense. But it would remain unclear that one should really be telling a particular church what it should really do.
 
To my understanding, the ruthenian dioceses were never part of the kyiv metropolitanate.
 
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