New priest praised Amoris Laetita in Homily today

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Pope Francis states this very clearly. AL very clearly does not set guidelines. It serves as the basis upon which Bishops will create guideline that pertain to the circumstances of their flock.
 
I am not missing the point. You are missing Pope Francis’ point. His point is very simple: Canon Law on this issue cannot be one size fits all. It doesn’t take a canon law degree to understand what he is saying and what he intends.
 
And the canonical issues here concern the reception of Holy Communion, not the nullity process. That’s precisely the point you are missing.
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And yet, Pope Francis specifically addressed the inadequacy of the nullity process to deal with some complex issues. He is providing a way forward when the nullity process fails. He specifically intends that an understanding of the true validity of a prior marriage will result from the process he lays out. I’m really not missing anything.
 
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There is a difference between what AL says and what others want it to say or think that it says (and I am including the Dubia writers as well).
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The Dubia writers were asking questions and wanted clarification out of legitimate concern, so I fail to see how they are somehow in the wrong there.
 
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Consider: a person applies for an annulment and the tribunal finds that their prior marriage is valid. Let’s say that this person then undertakes the process Pope Francis outlines (the internal forum as you say). Let’s say that the person, priest, and bishop agree that the first marriage was not valid. So, the remarried couple is admitted to penance and communion but only in private.

Is this controversial?
 
Old priest praised the Philadelphia Eagles in Homily today at my place.
 
And, what I am saying to you is that the controversy is the result of a prejudicial reading of AL.

I have no doubt that Pope Francis has not responded because he sees no need to respond. He answered their questions in Chapter 8.
 
If the first marriage is not truly valid, why would continence be an issue? If they receive in private is it still scandalous?

(Rememeber the premise of AL: canon law is not a solution to every issue.)
 
My goodness we are really talking past each other.

The basis Pope Francis lays out for the possibility that a remarried person could be remitted to the sacraments is based on determining nullity through the internal forum (where it is appropriate)! You cannot separate these two. They go hand in hand.

Now, as I mentioned however many posts ago, there is a second subset to deal with that does not concern nullity. This subset had to do with culpability on the part of the remarried person. Perhaps this is what you are thinking of?
 
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Pope Francis points out that this is the standard. The vast and overwhelming majority of people will have to do this in order to be admitted to the sacraments. However, he does outline some specific instances where this may not be the case. He lays out his argument when he discusses mitigating factors and culpability.

He is in no way saying that every divorced and remarried person will ultimately receive the sacraments due to mitigating factors. He is saying that there are some mitigating factors that would nullify moral responsibility for their actions on this issue.

With that, it’s late and I’m going to bed!
 
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So today in mass our new priest praised Pope Francis and what he said about giving the eucharist to divorced and remarried couples who haven’t received an annulment. He said what people fail to understand is that Pope Francis may have been thinking about extreme circumstances where only a handful of people may be admitted to the sacraments again. The priest also said to remember that Jesus ate with tax collectors and if there’s one thing about Jesus is that He is always inviting people to Him, and Pope Francis had that in mind when he wrote Amoris Laetitia. I’m just stunned.
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A lot of good answers so far.

I am just wondering how his Homily related to the Scripture readings. I’m not seeing the connection.
 
Bishops are divided on this issue. The Holy Father has left the implementation of AL to the local bishop. In my archdiocese, a civily remarried couple must live as brother and sister to receive period. In some dioceses around the world, there are limited exceptions. What can we as laity do but obey our bishop?
 
Cardinal Burke presumably knows more than you or I…yes. By that same logic, surely the Holy Father knows more too, eh?

We are living in strange times. Prior to 2013, conservative Catholics were fervent ultramontanists. Now they’re the first and most vocal to proclaim the limitations of papal primacy. Even more oddly, progressives who openly contradicted St JPII and Benedict are suddenly ultramontanists. Strange times indeed.
 
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Like I said, there is what AL actually says and then there is what people want it to say ( as fits their motives).
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Precisely, but that goes for you just as much as for those who consider AL a document of dubious quality. I’ve read it carefully, and those points in it that have been the subject of criticism (not only from laity but also from high-ranking clergy) aren’t as easily dismissed as you try to make it sound. In fact the whole problem is that it’s too open to interpretation. The many discussions about AL have made that abundantly clear.

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It’s quite possible that your new priest was instructed to give a sermon in defense of AL. This may have come from a higher-ranking priest or even the bishop. In fact, it may well be that a policy is in place (probably since recently) to promote and/or defend those aspects of Pope Francis’ teachings and decisions that have been the subject of criticism within the Church.
 
No one ever can agree on how to properly interpret AL as we see above. Obviously further clarification would be helpful.
 
mrsdizzyd said:
I suggest you reread chapter 8. Pope Francis specifically discussed validity of prior marriages.

Like I said, there is what AL actually says and then there is what people want it to say ( as fits their motives).
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There is a link here to Amoris Laetitia @mrsdizzyd .

I wonder how many who have such strong opinions about it have actually read it . I know @FloridaCatholic can’t spell it correctly . 😉

Personally I can’t see what all the fuss is about .

 
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