New sign of the cross

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Our parish has the new translation, and the priest now says, “In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and to the Holy Spirit…”

Why is it “to” the Holy Spirit now?
 
we’ve always said “Holy Spirit” 🤷

I don’t really think it matters to be honest, “ghost/spirit” = same
 
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we’ve always said “Holy Spirit” 🤷

I don’t really think it matters to be honest, “ghost/spirit” = same
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It’s not the Ghost/Spirit.

I have always said, “In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit/Ghost.”

Now it is “In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and TO the Holy Spirit.”

Why “to”?
 
oops, sorry… didn’t read your post correctly 😊

But now to answer your post, I’ve looked at my translation in the Catholic Truth Society copy of the new Missal and it says, "In the name OF the Father, and OF the Son and OF the Holy Spirit."

I don’t know about any “TO”
 
Cowra_Dude said:
Our parish has the new translation, and the priest now says, “In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and to the Holy Spirit…”

Why is it “to” the Holy Spirit now?
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Probably just a slip of the tongue. Why didn’t you ask the priest?
 
Slip of tongue? English not his first language?

It makes no sense to be in the name to something. So it’s not like he’s saying anything wrong, he’s just not saying anything at all.
 
Have you asked your priest? That has nothing to do with the new translation.
 
It was always Holy Spirit, for me. Does priest say Holy Ghost all the time, maybe priest is getting ready for Oct 31 and Nov2. But here in houston there is a church and school that is call Holy Ghost Church and Holy Ghost School it is located in southwest Houston.

Peace be with you
 
Cowra_Dude said:
Our parish has the new translation, and the priest now says, “In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and to the Holy Spirit…”

Why is it “to” the Holy Spirit now?
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It’s most likely just a slip of the tongue, the new translation is still “In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit”

Priests are human to 😃
 
Cowra_Dude said:
Our parish has the new translation, and the priest now says, “In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and to the Holy Spirit…”

Why is it “to” the Holy Spirit now?
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Could it be you misheard him?
 
The OP still hasn’t said why he/she did not simply ask the priest!!
How are we supposed to answer why the priest allegedly said “to” the Holy Spirit?
 
Cowra_Dude said:
Our parish has the new translation, and the priest now says, “In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and to the Holy Spirit…”

Why is it “to” the Holy Spirit now?
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Nothing has changed in the new translation concerning the sign of the cross. It is still “and of the Holy Spirit,” which correctly translates the Latin possessive et Spiritus Sancti. Is it possible that he said “and o’ the Holy Spirit,” and that the the “d” of “and,” combined with an unaccented, barely-there “of,” came out sounding like “to” (“an’ to the Holy Spirit”)?
 
Another possibility is that he frequently prays the Rosary and unintentionally mixed up the Glory Be with the Sign of the Cross.
 
drforjc said:
Another possibility is that he frequently prays the Rosary and unintentionally mixed up the Glory Be with the Sign of the Cross.
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This is hilarious, arguing over a two-letter preposition. Of course seventeen hundred years ago the argument was over a single letter iota in the middle of an obscure theological term, so not much has changed, has it LOL I guess when it comes to theology, words matter, don’t they.

Sounds to me like the error “In the name of the Father and of the Son and ***to ***the Holy Spirit” was accidentally carried over from another common prayer similarly worded, “Glory be to the Father and to the Son and ***to ***the Holy Spirit”

Anyways it reminds me of a Latin Novus Ordo I attended once in the Los Angeles area, said by a Jesuit priest whose previous assignment had been in Mexico where he always said mass in Spanish. At the Dismissal, instead of saying in Latin “Dominus vobiscum”, he accidentally said in Spanish “El Señor esté con vosotros” and you could tell from the surprised look on his face he instantly realized he said it in the wrong language. About a quarter of the congregation, however, immediately noticing the error for what it was, without skipping a beat responded with a lively and pleasantly amused “Y con tu espíritu”! It was awesome. What an edifying illustration of our Catholicity.
 
Sounds to me like the error “In the name of the Father and of the Son and ***to ***the Holy Spirit” was accidentally carried over from another common prayer similarly worded, “Glory be to the Father and to the Son and ***to ***the Holy Spirit”
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Is that not what I just stated??
 
  1. English is his 1st language.
  2. Not a slip of the tongue. The 1st time I heard it I thought it was. He really emphasises it.
  3. He gets cranky when people ask him about the things he does differently.
  4. I’m not upset enough to fight about it like a pp said. He just started doing it recently and I wondered about the significance.
 
Cowra_Dude said:
  1. English is his 1st language.
  2. Not a slip of the tongue. The 1st time I heard it I thought it was. He really emphasises it.
  3. He gets cranky when people ask him about the things he does differently.
  4. I’m not upset enough to fight about it like a pp said. He just started doing it recently and I wondered about the significance.
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Well, he’s wrong. He may think it’s a new change, but it is not.
 
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