New SOLT Statement re: Father Corapi

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Elizabeth502 said:
It had been extremely clear in my earlier post. Repetition was unnecessary.

This is so off-topic that I have no clue where you’re coming from. Who said anything about “me”? Just like you, .
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Look at your post, like you advised me to do. It was you who said mentioned “me.”
 
Elizabeth502 said:
Apparently I am not alone in my skepticism. This from the Facebook page today:
So the head of SOLT has provided us with the comprehensive conclusion of an investigation they told us could not go forward two weeks ago?
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No one said they could not go forward with the investigation.
They said that the investigation was slowed down because they could not interview key witnesses after Corapi filed the civil suit.

I do remember somewhere along the way news that they were continuing using other witnesses.
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I am very surprised that they included the statement that the woman he was seeing was a former prostitute. I don’t think we need to know that and it kinda damaging to her to have this broadcast.

If they are confident in their information, I understand the need for making a statement, given Fr. Corapi’s new ventures. Including the above part made me feel bad for this woman. Now people will think see used to be a prostitute.😦
 
ByzCath said:
So you know who these two individuals are?
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Of course not. I never claimed to “know them personally.” :rolleyes: However, if they are merely a psychiatrist, a canon lawyer, and a civil lawyer, I would have to know more about their investigative skills/credentials to judge whether the “investigation” has produced sufficient evidence.
SOLT does not have to prove anything to you, or to me, nor do they need to justify their process in handling this sort of case.
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Another straw man. I never said or implied they did. I said to others, and I will say to you, that I have as much right to an opinion about the case as you do – no more of a right, no less of a right. The concept of “proof” was introduced by others, not by me. I merely responded to the herd mentality that has convicted him in absentia.

Have a nice day, Brother.
 
vz71 said:
No one said they could not go forward with the investigation.
They said that the investigation was slowed down because they could not interview key witnesses after Corapi filed the civil suit.

I do remember somewhere along the way news that they were continuing using other witnesses.
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Precisely. While Fr. Corapi’s actions greatly hampered the investigation, it was my understanding that they were still trying to proceed with one hand proverbially “tied behind the back.” The SOLT statement makes it clear that they have enough alternate sources of information to conclude that these behaviors took place. Indeed, such behavior would be very hard for a figure such as Fr. Corapi to hide altogether.
 
manualman said:
I’m not following you here. Are you arguing that ongoing alcohol abuse, sexual promiscuity and drug abuse by a priest shouldn’t be impediments from his further involvement in active ministry? Surely you’re not saying that, but it sounds like it.
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No. Straw man #2,700. However, you have convicted him merely by your questions. There is no proof, yet, that he has done any of the above.
 
Elizabeth502 said:
Of course not. I never claimed to “know them personally.” :rolleyes: However, if they are merely a psychiatrist, a canon lawyer, and a civil lawyer, I would have to know more about their investigative skills/credentials to judge whether the “investigation” has produced sufficient evidence.

Another straw man. I never said or implied they did. I said to others, and I will say to you, that I have as much right to an opinion about the case as you do – no more of a right, no less of a right. The concept of “proof” was introduced by others, not by me. I merely responded to the herd mentality that has convicted him in absentia.

Have a nice day, Brother.
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It is hard to argue charity for one priest not in good standing while showing a lack of charity for another who is no matter how hidden in platitudes.
 
joanofarc2008 said:
It is hard to argue charity for one priest not in good standing while showing a lack of charity for another who is no matter how hidden in platitudes.
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I have shown no lack of charity. I have stated that others have equal opinions to mine, not more, not less.

Have a nice day, sister.
God bless,
🙂
 
Elizabeth502 said:
No. Straw man #2,700. However, you have convicted him merely by your questions. There is no proof, yet, that he has done any of the above.
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Actually, in his personal testimony of his conversion story, we hear first hand his admission to all of the above.

Of course, that is an entirely different thing then what the investigation is about.
 
vz71 said:
Actually, in his personal testimony of his conversion story, we hear first hand his admission to all of the above.

Of course, that is an entirely different thing then what the investigation is about.
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Oh, definitely! (Regarding sentence #1.) If that’s what manualman was referring to, my apologies to manualman! Totally, of course. Nonetheless, vz, do you not find it a profound witness that someone would turn his life around with such initial impediments? I believe that has been the most powerful witness of Fr. Corapi, not the general preaching itself, despite the appeal of that to many, naturally. I think the personal conversion is the more compelling of the two. The investigative report just released, though, does refer to alcoholism, drug abuse, etc., which is what I believe or believed manualman was referring to. But naturally I could be wrong. 🤷
 
I have nothing against Fr. Corapi at this point. I hope things turn around for him. I have no doubt I would manage to handle fame and fortune horribly as well.

that said, i didn’t fall for Fr. Maciel either. See signature quote.
 
Elizabeth502 said:
Oh, definitely! (Regarding sentence #1.) If that’s what manualman was referring to, my apologies to manualman! Totally, of course. Nonetheless, vz, do you not find it a profound witness that someone would turn his life around with such initial impediments? I believe that has been the most powerful witness of Fr. Corapi, not the general preaching itself, despite the appeal of that to many, naturally. I think the personal conversion is the more compelling of the two. The investigative report just released, though, does refer to alcoholism, drug abuse, etc., which is what I believe or believed manualman was referring to. But naturally I could be wrong. 🤷
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You are right.

With all of the truths and half truths flying around, I feel the need to be very precise with what we do know.

What it means to me is that he will forever have a specific weakness in his life in that area. And he needs to live his life in such a way as to not even court the weakness.
Long ago I found it worrisome that he was living alone in his own residence seperate from his religious community.

I guess my worries were well founded.
 
Elizabeth502 said:
Of course not. I never claimed to “know them personally.” :rolleyes: However, if they are merely a psychiatrist, a canon lawyer, and a civil lawyer, I would have to know more about their investigative skills/credentials to judge whether the “investigation” has produced sufficient evidence.

Another straw man. I never said or implied they did. I said to others, and I will say to you, that I have as much right to an opinion about the case as you do – no more of a right, no less of a right. The concept of “proof” was introduced by others, not by me. I merely responded to the herd mentality that has convicted him in absentia.

Have a nice day, Brother.
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I am sorry but it seems that you have been demanding proof and judging SOLT as to their capacity to 1)know the truth as you deemed their investigations as not being sufficient due to your judgment that they have lacked a professional investigator (so I assumed you had some inside knowledge we do not have) and 2) their capacity and willingness to provide the truth.

I ask for your forgiveness if I made wrong assumptions and I am sure you will correct those assumptions and stop painting the SOLT and its leadership in a bad light.

I will pray for you and ask that you pray for me.
 
joanofarc2008 said:
It is hard to argue charity for one priest not in good standing while showing a lack of charity for another who is no matter how hidden in platitudes.
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I thank you for your defense but I must provide some correction. I am not a priest. I am a friar who is currently studying for the priesthood.
 
Wow this is a bummer. I used to watch his shows sometimes because he seemed so charismatic. I would think to myself if a man like this who used to be a vile sinner can repent and become a priest, I can quit my sins as well and live a better life. However, he apparently lived a double life and had not renounced his sinful inmoral ways. Even worse he was doing the same things he had done in the past as a lay person but now as a priest.

As if the catholic church wasn’t looking bad enough already.

The deception!!!:mad:

We need to pray for this man, so that God may show him mercy, and for his conversion which seems so far away.

I’m no saint but at least I don’t go around pretending to be one 😦

So many priests out there that do take their vocation to heart!!! God Bless them for their strenght and may they stand out above the corrupt.
 
His website was last updated June 30, 11. He is probably on a extended holiday weekend.
theblacksheepdog.us/

The last blog is very strange, his faculties is not all there.
 
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