I would respond to your second paragraph by going back to your first. Cannot we afford not to go there? Martin Luther did massive damange to the Church and the Faithful. If you truly feel that this situation is akin to that, how can the Church stay silent.
Thank you,
Meaning a hypocrite.“type of person he is” - do you mean a sinner? We’re all going to need a large pedestal to stand on…
We are all hypocrites in some way or another, teach one thing and do another. But we ask Father for forgiveness and restore our relationship and remain faithful through it all. It seems the only man on earth that can preach according to us is a perfect man. Well, looks like noone is allowed to preach anymore in our eyes
It upset me that my own friends and family would act that way. Did I get angry and make comments about these same people, sure. Was I unfit at the time during my anger, sure. Did I get through it with the prayers of faithful Catholics, you betcha.
You must be the first person on the face of the earth that has never been hypocritical
SOLT is standing up, for one. They want him to come home to the community and he told them that doing that would be tantamount to “crawling under a rock and waiting to die.” Many Catholics, both in the clergy and laity, are standing in the gap for him right now by praying for him and encouraging him to turn back to his vows and community. I don’t see all of these “happy” people that you see. I see people who are genuinely sad that he has fallen and hope that he doesn’t stay estranged from the Church. But in order for help to get to him, he has to be willing to accept it, and he has indicated pretty clearly that he is not open to being helped, nor does he even acknowledge a problem of any kind.
We must not look up to and place priests(men) on pedestals. You will always be disappointed. I’m not shocked at all that a man would “commit” these types of sins. I understand the feelings of betrayal and so forth but the bashing is just self righteous idiocy.
So, it doesn’t matter how Catholics in the public eye conduct themselves? It’s not a bad thing if Nancy Pelosi says that she is an ardent practicing Catholic and that’s why she supports legalized abortion, or if Andrew Cuomo takes communion after pushing for gay marriage within New York State?
This is not about anyone other than Fr. Corapi himself, a man who spent two decades eloquently and convincingly preaching love and duty to God and His Church, and is now rebelling and encouraging others to openly rebel against that same Church and her Bishops, including his own religious superiors whom he vowed to obey.
We don’t know all the facts at this point, thats the problem. “Happy people” - just google corapi’s name and you’ll find plenty of comments.
I’m sorry, but I don’t see “bashing” going on here, rather a discussion of the facts as they are being presented all over the news cycle. Furthermore, In expecting certain appropriate moral and ethical behavior from a priest, a president, or anyone else in authority is not merely placing them on a pedestal, as you say, but is an expectation totally in keeping with the office and positions of authority that these people hold. As the Lord Jesus Christ Himself says, “To whom much is given, much will be expected.” Those are His words, not mine.
I understand your concern about the viciousness of Catholics and Christians. I always say the Church Militant is the only army that shoots his own.We are all hypocrites in some way or another, teach one thing and do another. But we ask Father for forgiveness and restore our relationship and remain faithful through it all. It seems the only man on earth that can preach according to us is a perfect man. Well, looks like noone is allowed to preach anymore in our eyes
Let’s say the accusations are true. I’ll say okay, the man messed up, lets forgive/pray and move forward. So now what? Can the gifts and Spirit be restored through confession, sure. Jesus said the gates of hell will never prevail but he did not say the devil is not going to put up a good fight! Satan finally succeeded at getting to him. Wow, who would have thought that a priest could succomb to Satan.
It’s our duty as the faithful to pick him up and help our brother to beat this. Who will stand up? It sounds like there is a hidden agenda that lies underneath and alot of people were so happy he got busted “doing” something. It reminds me of when I had a conversion of heart a few years back and went on a rampage speaking about Christ to my family/friends. Man, I screwed up a few months afterwards and boy o boy, the detractors were the first ones to come out and speak up.
Thank you. If a person is sinning, it is considered a Spiritual Work of Mercy by the Catholic Church to admonish them to repent, and to warn others not to follow him in sinning.
Yes he is in violation of his promise of obedience but that does not necessarily mean that he is outside of the Church.
It think we make it about ourselves when we don’t know all the facts and start acting self righteous. Note: these responses are not directed towards you personally
We don’t need to know all the facts, because it’s not up to us. It’s up to his religious superiors, and they have ruled.
again, these responses aren’t directed at you. They are more for the bashing that has been going on. Research a little and you’ll get the picture…
By this I take it you have done everything you can to preach to all of your family members, neighbors, co-workers, and people on the street about the evils of atheism, gay marriage, and abortion?
But I am not “googling” Fr. Corapi’s name. If you google it, you can find practically anything you want to find, no matter how insane. I thought that the context of my comments was understood - I am not seeing “bashing” going on here at CAF. I have no idea what people are saying in comment boxes across the internet. My comment was specifically regarding the discourse here at CAF.
Marie, I think you hit the nail on the head with this statement. The lines between civil (US) law and canon law are being intentionally obscured here. As Mr. Corapi said,
Father Corapi was subject to canon law and the rule of his order, but he talks about adequate rights to defend himself. He also stated,
It sounds as if Mr. Corapi wants an open trial based on US law as a US citizen, not any canonical process to which he is subject, and finds SOLT’s investigation and announcement as infringing on those rights he claims as a citizen. Although subject to both the law of the nation and the laws of the Church, he’s using the former to fight the latter.
Yes, it is very important to hear both sides of the stories. And yes, facts are really important. So many priests have been falsely accused because of this way of thinking.
