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I recently heard a Baptist pastor I know say something that really offended me as a convert coming into the Catholic faith. (I overheard this, not directed at me personally)
He was recently at the funeral of a distant relative of his who was a Catholic. He obviously attended a traditional Catholic Mass because he was questioning and mocking Catholic communion.
He said the fact that Catholics use real wine (he uses grape juice in his service) just reaffirmed how “wicked the CC is” because in his view alcohol was a “type” of sin in the bible. He then jokingly put down transubstantiation as if you had to be a moron to believe Jesus was being literal at the last supper. He then referred to a verse in Proverbs (23:31) that he said warned us not to drink wine after it turns alcoholic. He thinks references in the bible where it seems drinking in moderation is o.k., they are really drinking non fermented wine. I read the verse and it doesn’t seem to say what he is making it try to say. Here’s the verse.
’Do not gaze at wine when it is red, when it sparkles in the cup, when it goes down smoothly!
I guess at some point he thinks you can visibly tell when the juice from grapes begins to ferment from reading this passage.
He said using real wine makes the blood of Christ “sinful”.
Is this a common argument used by some Baptist’s or is this pastor really twisting scripture on a whole new level??

He was recently at the funeral of a distant relative of his who was a Catholic. He obviously attended a traditional Catholic Mass because he was questioning and mocking Catholic communion.
He said the fact that Catholics use real wine (he uses grape juice in his service) just reaffirmed how “wicked the CC is” because in his view alcohol was a “type” of sin in the bible. He then jokingly put down transubstantiation as if you had to be a moron to believe Jesus was being literal at the last supper. He then referred to a verse in Proverbs (23:31) that he said warned us not to drink wine after it turns alcoholic. He thinks references in the bible where it seems drinking in moderation is o.k., they are really drinking non fermented wine. I read the verse and it doesn’t seem to say what he is making it try to say. Here’s the verse.
’Do not gaze at wine when it is red, when it sparkles in the cup, when it goes down smoothly!
I guess at some point he thinks you can visibly tell when the juice from grapes begins to ferment from reading this passage.
He said using real wine makes the blood of Christ “sinful”.
Is this a common argument used by some Baptist’s or is this pastor really twisting scripture on a whole new level??