New Zealand Bishop to Sr. Joan Chittister: Not in my Diocese!

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It’s wonderful to see ecclesiastical backbone in action.

The new bishop of the Churchill diocese in New Zealand has opposed the visit of dissident nun, Sr. Joan Chittister.

I don’t want to repeat it all here - I’ve got a blogpost up where you can read it and follow relevant links, but discussion can take place here.

What are your thoughts?

I’m wondering why this kind of thing hasn’t happened in other dioceses where certain individuals, such as Sr. Chittister are known to promote things which counter Church teaching (in her case, women priests and contraception).

te-deum.blogspot.com/2007/07/new-zealand-bishop-opposes-visit-by-sr.html
 
Here is the news source for this thread:
stuff.co.nz/stuff/thepress/4112734a6530.html

Perhaps this pulling of the welcome mat will happen more and more. I seem to recall that Bishop Gumbleton was officially un-welcomed in a Arizona diocese within the past year. Has similar things happened elsewhere?

Maybe as bishops see that the repercussions are not bad, they will do more to prevent prominent people from mis-leading the flock.
 
Good for the bishop, but I gotta say that when I first looked at this subject line, I didn’t have my Varifocals lined up right, and what I saw was, “Re: New Zealand Bishop to St. Joan Chittester…” :bigyikes"

Of course, she still has plenty of time to become one.
 
Can we get that Bishop transferred to the Diocese of Little Rock?😃
 
Can we Americans import this Bishop and export this Sister?🙂
 
Three cheers and a Tiger! 👍

Reminds me of an incident locally. I was browsing through a local Catholic book and supply store, when a woman started making loud noises to one of the staff, asking where Sr. joan Chittister’s books were, and if there weren’t any, why not? She was getting quite wound up when the young manager, a lady from the Philippines, came up to her and told her that she was in a store that served the Church and her members, and was run by Catholics faithful to the Magisterium, and she had no attention of making heretical writings readily available. The lady harumphed and left.

The good news is that Sr. joan and her ilk are having a harder and harder time finding an audience, and the ones who she gets are even older than I am, with young people scarce as hen’s teeth.

Blessings,

Gerry
 
M-Dent said:
Always worth sending a strong Bishop an email of thanks.
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Anyone know how to properly address him in the email? I thought I read somewhere that here in the US it would be ‘Your Excellency’ while elsewhere in the world it’d be ‘Your Grace’ or ‘My Lord’?
 
Well, for a Bishop, “Your Excellency” works in Canada. “My Lord” is a British thing, and I’m not sure if the NZers use it or not.

“Your Grace” is for Archbishops.

Blessings,

Gerry
 
I personally think she should have been invited, she is still Catholic after all. Nobody has formally excommunicated her. She still gets the media down under and NZ. I still have this ABC Radio National Spirit of Things podcast from 2005 and it is good to listen to.

Transcript:
abc.net.au/rn/spiritofthings/stories/2005/1397362.htm

I also heard her on Wisconsin Public Radio’s Here on Earth Program back in 2005. It was also good to listen to.

wpr.org/hereonearth/archive_050430k.cfm
 
Sorry, but it doesn’t matter what you feel is “good” or not. Someone who speaks publicly on Catholic matters needs to speak with the mind of the Church and this nun has publicly crossed the line way too many times.

This nun is one of the biggest dissidents in the Catholic Church today. The National Catholic Reporter - a regular publisher of her column is RED and her column contributed.

The statements she made with regards to the motu proprio really crossed the line.

If anyone’s catechesis is lacking, Fr. John Zuhlsdorf can enlightene you in this post where he analyzed the article in question by Sr. Joan Chittister.

She, like all dissidents, will remain in my prayers.
 
Ridgerunner said:
The same could have been said about Henry VIII, who never claimed to be anything else.
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That, of course, it what makes her, and made him, particularly dangerous. We probably have little to fear from those who trash the Church and declare that they are no longer of her. But when they claim to still be Catholics – even “good” or “faithful” Catholics in some cases – there is a real danger. How many people will be fooled, and actually believe the heresy she espouses? One would be too many.

There is nothing faithful about that lady, nothing at all.

Blessings,

Gerry
 
Gerry_Hunter said:
Well, for a Bishop, “Your Excellency” works in Canada. “My Lord” is a British thing, and I’m not sure if the NZers use it or not.

“Your Grace” is for Archbishops.

Blessings,

Gerry
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We just use “Bishop” mostly, we’re pretty much low key here.

And NO, NO, NO, NO, NO!!! You can’t have him. For too long we have envied you having Bishops Bruskewitz, Chaput, Vasa and a very few others. The best we had was Cardinal Pell across The Ditch. Now we have a true shepherd, we aren’t letting him go to anyone except God.

As a small nation we don’t have many bishops, one I have heard nicknamed “Protestant Pete,” so we are giving thanks [Deo Gratias] for Bp Jones.
 
Gerry_Hunter said:
That, of course, it what makes her, and made him, particularly dangerous. We probably have little to fear from those who trash the Church and declare that they are no longer of her. But when they claim to still be Catholics – even “good” or “faithful” Catholics in some cases – there is a real danger. How many people will be fooled, and actually believe the heresy she espouses? One would be too many.

There is nothing faithful about that lady, nothing at all.

Blessings,

Gerry
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agreed 😦
 
Nordar said:
Can you tell me what about her is Catholic? according to The Magisterium that is.
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Well, as my pastor pointed out in catechism class he teaches, once you are a baptized Catholic the mark of baptism never leaves, even if you try to throw it away. The expression, “you can’t be pro-choice and Catholic” is actually in error, for example. Canon Lawyer Ed Peters also speaks on this issue.

No matter what Sr. Joan Chittister does, she is still a Catholic. However, she has shown very un-Catholic behavior through her public writings and speeches, some of which runs contrary to the teachings of the Church.

Even if Sr. Chittister were to have a good and valid point on an issue, there is a danger in following her for those who are not catechized well enough to spot an errant or even heretical remark. The faithful are scandalized by dissidents.

However, I will conceded that we would serve Holy Mother Church best by spending time in an adoration chapel for the offenses and scandal caused by dissidents, than by talking about them. But word needs to get to those who truly do not know any better and are “carried away by all kinds of strange teaching” (Heb 13:9)
 
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