NFP and spousal relationships

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we started NFP after our first child was born 10 months into our marriage. i believe it has made us so much closer and happier. we make time to have relations when we can and i believe we have much more than most couples on the pill.
 
Not sure if it has necessarily made me happier using NFP. It is a true challenge and you see everyone else having sex whenever they want, and you are limited to 1-2 weeks out of the month as an option. It is fine, though, it certainly is good for your physical and spiritual health. I never have used the pill and will never do so since I am used to NFP. I just don’t want to practice it forever, I am looking forward to not using it and having children instead (when the time is right).
 
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arieh0310:
My wife and I are going to start using NFP after our next child is born (no need to worry about it when she is pregnant ). I was wondering, for those who use, if they think their relationship has improved with their spouse since using NFP. …

Would those who use NFP agree?
Love it, love it, love it! It has been such a blessing in our marriage. We didn’t fit the profile of the couple who marry as virgins and always used NFP. It was nice to read that others here might be like us.

It was the class on NFP that helped us start to get our priorites straight before we married. We both came from checkered pasts and didn’t like the choices we were making. Our class helped us to see what it really meant to abstain, but more importantly it told us WHY to abstain. It helped us start to abstain in the months before marriage.

Now, we pray that God brings us together when He wants us together. So far it is working very well. DH was invalidly married once before. They used contraception and he said he felt used. He says he would never go back to that feeling. He says NFP helps him know that I want to be with him. There is nothing keeping us apart.

I recommend a favorite article that I hand out when we give promoter talks on NFP. It is here on CA but I don’t do links well. It is called “That Celibate Bachelor was Right!” It is a Protestant couple who comes home to Catholic teaching because of this very issue. My favorite part is about feeling like a drive-thru because of contraception. It hit close to home for both of us.
 
One of the ways to make the fertile days really fertile might be to model them after the realtionship of our ever virgin Bl. Mother and St. Joseph …
The fertile days could be the days when the husbands could look at their wives with awe and wonder …like St. Joseph … realising that the wife has probably a more sacrificial role since most women enjoy sex the best during the fertile phase …
Instead of looking at those days as days of deprivation, may they be looked upon as days of enhancing the fertility in the relationship, at a heart level,with each other, with that awe and wonder , and with The Lord , the Holy Family …
Has there been any studies , such as may be involving charismatically gifted , who , as friends of God, have been given authority over fertility in such a way that even during fertile phase , they recieve the gift of a child , only with expectation from them as well?
 
Oh. . .There are so many wonderful responses here, I hesitate to even add to them!

From my personal perspective, the first year of our marriage was very difficult with regards to NFP. My husband and I committed even before we were married to practicing NFP–we took our CCL/NFP class as an engaged couple. We completely understood the methodology and the spiritual and moral reasons for practicing NFP. Having said that, it was still a struggle for us and one that caused many first year “issues.”

Today, we are HUGE NFP proponents! However, it requires work and commitment especially in the beginning. If you have ever practiced birth control, I can imagine that you may have a difficult transition period. Such is the case with anything that is so life-altering. Prayer and constant conversation are of utmost importance! Please do not give up! God will bless your sacrifices in ways you will NEVER begin to expect.

I highly recommend Christopher West’s book THE GOOD NEWS ABOUT SEX AND MARRIAGE as a first step in your preparation for NFP. Then, please take a course! Having a couple who has actually practiced and taught NFP is much more profitable than just reading books to understand the “how-to’s” of NFP. It is such an organic and personal method of family planning that can only be truly imparted through the support and testimony of other practitioners.

You will experience the BEST blessings in your marriage!
 
Just my experience, but … I found NFP did not help our marriage, it added stress to it. We used it faithfully for years, had our 3 children, then just couldn’t bring ourselves to use it any longer. My husband works many late evening and night shifts and if we didn’t want to conceive, we would have to go weeks without. It was very stressful and the intimacy level of our marriage was often low during the years we used NFP. Our marriage is actually stronger and happier without it.
 
Yes, Even at times when we are too stressed out, I put a note in my chart such as “rough week at work” regarding my husband if nothing happens duringa non-fertile phase. The biggest comment is how women are more satisfied with their sexual expereinces. Once they are off the Pill, they feel like a teenager again regarding desire. You really have to step aside, and not worry about what the avarage American is doing in their bedroom. You have to look solely on your own relationship.
 
NFP is just about the opposite of the Jewish laws which require periodic abstinence from sexual relations.

The law of Niddah requires Jewish couples to only have relations during the part of the month which the woman is not ritually unpure, the time of the month which she is most fertile.

I’d like to see a comparison between the two from a relational standpoint.
 
So does The Church - who repeats 'be fruitful and multiply ’ and the couples who are goodhearted enough to choose NFP could be the ones who also should fill the earth with good Godly children , through relations during the fertle phase …
it is just that in our world , it seems The Moslems show more of that type of heroic commitment to children and families - often , even if not that rich, letting women stay home , breastfeed for couple of years etc:
NFP could be very easy - plan to have about five children, may be 2- 3 years of breastfeeding each- that is almost 15 years of 'really natural ’ no chart time and pretty soon menopausal years come in

Yet many would not want to exchange the joys of large families ( and possible vocations ) for what we think we might miss out , in the frienship with the world and its present values …
 
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Just my experience, but … I found NFP did not help our marriage, it added stress to it. We used it faithfully for years, had our 3 children, then just couldn’t bring ourselves to use it any longer. My husband works many late evening and night shifts and if we didn’t want to conceive, we would have to go weeks without. It was very stressful and the intimacy level of our marriage was often low during the years we used NFP. Our marriage is actually stronger and happier without it.
I don’t want to assume anything about your reasoning for using NFP, but it is possible that it was a stress to you, b/c the situation was not really “grave”. I know when we tried to use the plain old rythym method between our kids, were just didn’t have the self control and well, without a really grave reason, we have 5 pregnancies in 5 years- LOL.

I can say for myself that had we not had a very serious reason to avoid, NFP would’ve hurt us as well. IMO it is not good for marriages where there is no grave reason, as God would not want it to be.

For a situation like my current situation though (pregnancy would threaten my life) we are doing very well using NFP.

It would also be a problem in marriages where one person is not on board with it, so the other person always feels denied.

I know if we did not have the reason that we do, and maybe my husband just wanted to “space” our kids, I would be resentful, b/c as others have mentioned, the fertile time is the most enjoyable for a woman, and I would resent him taking that from me.
 
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jess7396:
I know if we did not have the reason that we do, and maybe my husband just wanted to “space” our kids, I would be resentful, b/c as others have mentioned, the fertile time is the most enjoyable for a woman, and I would resent him taking that from me.
I am more likely to initiate during the fertile times but I am not sure I would say it is actually more enjoyable than the infertile times.

I totally agree that “just reason” has a huge effect on NFP enriching a marriage. Without just reason is when it easily falls into misuse. While the method isn’t sinful, all of us who use it must constantly reevaluate WHY we might be abstaining during fertility.

Personal opinion here–If it isn’t enriching a marriage it might be that God is calling a couple toward more generosity regarding family size. My husband knows that if we had the resources, I’d want a whole houseful of kids. Hmmm, am I discouraging him from earning more money? lol! He loves children. He would want them too, but I think independent wealth is not in the cards for us.
 
Hmmm…NFP thread on marital satisfaction/enhancement on Catholic website draws only 30 responses and half of those don’t even address the question asked. Hardly a ringing endorsement…Anyone want to hazard a guess why this might be?
 
Can’t even begin to tell you how much it has helped!

Many, Many blessings from enhanced desire, respect, and intimacy to extreme abstinence, (almost two years for medical reasons). self control and long hours praying for enlightenment.

It’s all about the journey. Trust in God, pray and know that God is with you in times of confusion and frustration. Eventually you look back and see blessings that those who can’t, don’t or won’t persevere will never experience.
It’s not always easy, but then did God ever promise us easy?

Do it, and never look back!
 
OH, I forgot:

TWO MORE BEAUTIFUL SOULS WERE BROUGHT INTO THIS WORLD, and God allowed us to do so even when we would have choosen to do it differently.

We now know: it’s his job to provide, it’s our job to pray and trust.

My heart could burst everytime I look at the children I would have choosen to “contracept”.
 
IO–Maybe some of us feel like NFP has been talked to death, so there is only so much one can contribute to the same topic. I only happen to click on these threads every once in awhile. Furthermore, I certainly don’t see anything OTHER than “ringing endorsements” for use of NFP.

To the OP, NFP was never a question of whether or not we would be embracing it within our marriage. During my early high school and college years, I was very confused about the Church’s position on contraception and spent much time exhausting resources available to me in order to find out the truth and hopefully accept it. I was shocked by how many priests and religious gave me very permissive answers not in line with doctrine, and eventually I turned to the Catechism after encountering a very informed priest who explained the truth to me. As it happened, I also met a very good friend of Christopher West and read a rough draft of “The Good News About Sex & Marriage” long before it was published. Those copied pages went a long way in challenging and eventually changing my heart to the ways of the Church’s wisdom.

I met my husband two years into his reversion to our faith. What brought him back to the Church was learning the truth about how our God-given sexuality was meant to be expressed inside the covenant of marriage. He went to a conference on Theology of the Body and did a lot of research on his own, finding himself immersed in thought and eventually prayer, asking God to make his heart faithful and to point him in the direction of truth. Many things happened along the way of his reversion, and he lost many friends for coming back to the Church, but what spoke to his heart most of all was the beauty of what the Church’s teachings were and how amazing a covenantal marriage in the Catholic Church could be–where one did not withhold anything from their spouse, including their fertility.

I think what we have both most enjoyed is the surrender that comes with offering one’s entire body to his or her spouse. There are no boundaries and nor are there any secrets. His body is mine, as I belong to him. He does not offer me only a fraction of his body, he offers me everything and I willingly receive him. Choosing to plan our family with the knowledge of our fertility also gives us a constant awareness of the Holy Spirit in our lives and the presence of God, our Heavenly Father, in our marriage and within our daily lives. It’s very awe-inspiring to realize that with every act of marital love, we recognize the power and beauty of God’s plan in the creation of new life and remain ever-open to it.

NFP has helped us diagnose all the many things that don’t work quite so perfectly within my body. It was a stepping stone used by a variety of doctors to help me get diagnosed with several issues that would otherwise have been suppressed or ignored by use of the pill or due to ignorance about my body. We were originally told that I couldn’t get pregnant even if I wanted to, and that if by some miracle I did get pregnant, my body would not sustain it. We are now over 17 weeks expecting and so excited to have participated in creating a new life with God. How amazing to know that this little baby has been planned by the Lord for ALL OF ETERNITY, and by cooperating with God’s grace, we have helped bring this little one into the world. His or her soul will exist for all of time!

NFP is not easy. There have been so many times where we wanted to express our love for each other, but had a very just and grave reason to avoid trying. The beauty of offering this sacrifice of our desire for one another, and not giving into the lie of contraception, is that we suffer for one another. The whole reason we are married is that we have a vocation to marriage and to one another. The role of a vocation is sanctification! We are called to obtain heaven and God has given us our specific vocation as the vehicle in which to get there. I know that this redemptive suffering of being apart when we wish to be together is only going to be rewarded in Heaven someday.

When a couple practicing NFP is communicating on a daily basis about the status of their fertility, it only follows that some intimate discussion leads to communication about other issues–both mundane and important. My husband and I talk, talk, talk. We spend hours laying on our bed or taking a long walk, just chatting. (I know, that might change as our family expands, but for now we cherish that time together.)

My husband is my best friend and I believe he will stay that way because of our continued committment to celebrating our sexuality rather than abusing it in the way of the world’s thinking.
 
IO- I will venture a guess a too, on why there may not be a ton of responses to this thread. The vast majority of posters here on CAF, are pretty darn conservative, so- it would follow that many would never have found reason to use NFP, prior to my medical problem, we never used it.
 
I kind of feel “NFP-posts” worn…LOL – there are a ton of them on this board, and that’s great – new people come on looking for help/advice, etc. I could go on and on…but I have answered the question several times already, and sneak in here now and then to see what’s new and what’s interesting to me. Sorry to the OP for not replying, but I figured the others had it pretty well covered…
 
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leaner:
I kind of feel “NFP-posts” worn…LOL – there are a ton of them on this board, and that’s great – new people come on looking for help/advice, etc. I could go on and on…but I have answered the question several times already, and sneak in here now and then to see what’s new and what’s interesting to me. Sorry to the OP for not replying, but I figured the others had it pretty well covered…
Yep, exactly.
 
This question is covered fairly frequently on the Delphi NFP board, if you want to bounce the question off a group where the participants are all comfortable talking about the use of NFP within a marraige. Its not all roses, but for those using it, there is a general consensus that it is still the best option out there…
forums.delphiforums.com/nfptalk/start

I’ve seen cases where NFP brought issues to the surface which had always been present, but in general, there is a correlation between a willingness by both parties to use NFP and having the type of communication and self-sacrificing attitude that makes a marriage work. If there is a situation where using NFP is being presented as a “problem”, there is usually something use going on where an review of the Theology of the Body ideas within that relationship exposes that the NFP issue was just a symptom of a more fundamental disharmony.
 
Having just celebrated All Saints day ( beautiful litany ) and All Souls day - both making the realty of heaven even more palpable,
it is wonderful to look ahead , may be 50 or 100 years and see each of us - husband …wife ,in heaven and remind ourselves of the verse -’ the children of this age marry…in the age to come they shall be like angels '…Now , fertile days would be ideal to get a taste of those days - seeing each other like angels, in heaven… can also include many others - a good way to pray for , forgive and love - even our nonchristian brethren … :angel1:
 
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