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I started charting with the Symptothermal (CCL) method 8 days ago. I’m finding it hard to wake up at the same time every day and take my temperature. Does it ever get easier? 🙂
I bought a thermometer from walmart and seem to get a different temperature reading each time I use it. First I put it under the right side of my tongue to “warm it up” then I put it in the same spot under the left side of my tongue every morning. Sometimes I take my temperature several times in a row and it’s never the same as before (sometimes it’s a whole degree different.) Has anyone ever had problems with this before? What thermometer do you use? Is it accurate? For the first 8 days of my cycle my temperature has been all over the place. 😊

The first couple hours of my period or uterus shedding I experience dark spotting. Sometimes it happens over night when I sleep so I don’t know how long that phase lasts but it’s never more than 12 hours. Then I usually have moderate-heavy bleeding for the first 3 days. Days 4 and 5 I have minimal to little bleeding. Days 6, 7, and 8 I have dark spotting and sometimes go hours or nights with no bleeding/spotting. This is how my cycle has always been.

On day 6 I started checking for cervical mucus. First I wiped with toilet paper and then did the interior check. It was the first time I touched my cervix. It felt high up and closed. Can you definitely tell when your cervex starts to open up? I have felt “sticky” the last few days. In the next day or so I’m assuming I will start fertile phase 2 and feel “slimy/slippery”.

Are you 99.9% infertile when you have your period and when you’re sticky in days 6, 7, and 8?

I read you can’t have sex in the mornings because semen stays inside and it’s hard for a woman to know the different between her cervical mucus and the semen. Is this true? I also read you can’t have sex two days in a row of being in the infertile phase because the mucus can be mistaken for semen.
 
They recommend that you do not engage in intimacy during Phase 1 if you are not trying to conceive for at least 6-12 months. It takes about that long to become familiar with your fertility signs in that part of your cycle. As for your thermometer, the most accurate type that you should use is the basal body thermometer . I didn’t know there were different types at first, but it makes all the difference! If you have trouble finding one, search out the Couple to Couple League online. In answer to your question of does it get any easier, it depends on your personal schedule and just making it a habit. In my own experience, I switched over to the Creighton Method because my schedule is crazy. The main fertility sign is CM and temp is a secondary sign used to cross-check, and so I think it is a very useful method to learn, and beneficial when you get used to it.
 
I started charting with the Symptothermal (CCL) method 8 days ago. I’m finding it hard to wake up at the same time every day and take my temperature. Does it ever get easier? 🙂 .
Yes it does but try setting an alarm for the same time every day whether you get up at that time or not you can always go back to bed but make it a habit to check your temp say at 5 am every day then you will find more consistency on numbers. Take heart I told my daughter to start a year before she is married to get a good feel for this method before she needed it.
I read you can’t have sex in the mornings because semen stays inside and it’s hard for a woman to know the different between her cervical mucus and the semen. Is this true? I also read you can’t have sex two days in a row of being in the infertile phase because the mucus can be mistaken for semen.
This all depends on if you have a dire need to not get pregnant as I said in the optimal conditions which may not be where your situation lies you start before you are sexually active to get to know your body. And again how important is it for you to not be pregnant at this time if you are already married? Try to follow the rules expressly as you learn. It is hard at first but worth the health it gives you. And if you are married it offers the conversation each month do we really need to be that careful or can we welcome a new life to our home this month if God so chooses to Bless us? 🙂
 
I dunno. Not that I’m looking to give out false info but I use STM and I don’t temp at the exact time every single day.

It’s quite impossible for me to do so. I have a baby who still wakes up once every night for something and either I or hubby goes to get her. Some weeks I have drill and that means I’m up very early to go. Other days my husband switches to night shift at his work.

Our hours are strange and I cannot temp at one time every single day. I’ll get the temp usually within an average hour but I make sure it’s the second I wake up the thermometer goes in the mouth in the same spot.

And at the end of the day…there really isn’t that wide of a difference between temps…maybe two or three degrees with at least one wacky temp I toss out. But the temperature shift has always been clear and obvious and I’ve used this method for over a year now.

I’d swap to creighton if I could…but there are no instructors in my area. The closest is about a 2 hour drive. So, no, not worth it.

I don’t use the temp as a primary tool anyway. You aren’t supposed to. I use my mucus signs to tell me when I’m fertile and when I’m not.

The cervix is also a secondary sign for me. My cervix tends to soften and open up the day after my period ends but I don’t get any kind of mucus for at least a couple of days. It does harden after my temp shift.

You’ve only been doing this method 8 days. How crazy are the temps? If it’s only 3 degrees difference then you might be fine. Keep taking temps and see if you can find and obvious temperature change that stays high. When you look at my charts the temps are different but you can clearly see the temp difference every month.

Are you using a basal body temp thermometer?

You get better at charting as time goes on. With my first chart…my husband and I were only intimate around 5 times for the whole month. But I started getting better and starting using the other rules and continued to feel confident. I started finding more and more days we could be intimate.

I never found that you absolutely need to temp at the same time every morning but it is very important that you do so the second you wake up and before you get out of bed.
 
I can’t use the STM because I get up at different times every morning, am often up in the night with one of the kids, and frequently have a glass of wine or two with dinner. Trying to maintain a static schedule was really stressful for me, and just never really worked so we use Marquette, where temps are not as crucial.
 
I set an alarm for 4am every day, put the thing in my mouth, take it out when it beeps, and actually read it later when I get up, around 7. I stay in bed.

unstable temps- is it a basal thermometer? Does it need new batteries?

It takes a month or two to figure out a routine, get your body used to it etc.
 
A basal body thermometer will give you the best results. If you’re really having trouble with inconsistent readings when you take your temperature orally, you could consider taking your temperature vaginally, which will be a lot more consistent. But my guess is that you’ll find that your oral temps will show a pattern, even though they’ll almost never be the same temperature three days in a row.
 
Oh- also, if you snore, or otherwise sleep with your mouth open, you will have trouble with oral temperatures.
 
I can’t use the STM because I get up at different times every morning, am often up in the night with one of the kids, and frequently have a glass of wine or two with dinner. Trying to maintain a static schedule was really stressful for me, and just never really worked so we use Marquette, where temps are not as crucial.
Cool to here someone uses Marquette! How long have you been using it?
 
You might want to look into Creighton if you have issues with temping daily. Also, it does not sound like you have a basal thermometer. You cannot use a regular thermometer.

Lastly, whatever method you choose, I highly recommend taking the course with an instructor rather than DIY. The questions you have can be directed to your instructor who will help you learn your method. And, I agree with others, you will need to abstain until you have charting under your belt.
 
Cool to here someone uses Marquette! How long have you been using it?
Off and on since 2005? I’m a techie so the monitor was appealing to me! After this baby we will need to use it for real, long term, to avoid. Never had to do that before and I hope I still like it!
 
Off and on since 2005? I’m a techie so the monitor was appealing to me! After this baby we will need to use it for real, long term, to avoid. Never had to do that before and I hope I still like it!
OvaCue is another good one and I heard it is more accurate than the ClearBlue used by Marquette. Sort of a science junkie here :rolleyes:
 
You may want to buy the basal themometer from CCL. Also, you mentioned internally checking your mucous. I just read a question in Family Foundations magazine from Sept/Oct. 2011 about the external mucus check being left out of the 2nd edition of The Art of Natural Family Planning Study Guide. So you may not even need to be doing that. Do you have this book? I know they now offer virtual classes and they also have home study. This way you will have access to the materials to help you along the way.

Praying for you that things will begin to become easier.

Kerri 🙂
 
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