NFP when Caesarean section is anticipated

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Suppose, if there is a maternal contraindication for natural birth, say for example, as in a case of android pelvis, can it be a just reason to practice NFP indefinitely though caesarean section is an alternate option?
 
Johnpeter073 said:
Suppose, if there is a maternal contraindication for natural birth, say for example, as in a case of android pelvis, can it be a just reason to practice NFP indefinitely though caesarean section is an alternate option?
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Other people cannot tell you whether you have a just reason to avoid pregnancy for a time or indefinitely.

If you and your spouse are having trouble discerning, talk to your pastor and a medical professional. Caesareans are common, but not without risk. The degree to which this is very serious will vary from individual to individual. Women who have that pelvic shape can have natural child birth.

this isn’t a conversation for the internet.
 
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I was asking whether a couple can resort to NFP when Caesarean is the only option available for the couple? Could the extra risk of Caesarean be a just reason for this?
 
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I was asking whether a couple can resort to NFP when Caesarean is the only option available for the couple? Could the extra risk of Caesarean be a just reason for this?
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It’s a matter of prudential judgment, but I would say yes, as C-sections carry a few more risks than vaginal births for both mother and baby. Definitely talk to your priest and OB about it.
 
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There are many things to consider here.

Her health, her age, her fitness level, her mental ability to handle multiple Caesareans all have to be taken under consideration when making this decision and continuously be taken into consideration as the years progress so adjustments either way can be made. Consulting a dr. or two about the safety in her case also wouldn’t hurt.
 
I have a sister who had two children C-section. Her doctor told her is she gets pregnant again she could very well die. She is Catholic but unfortunately she admitted that she is using contraception. She tries to justify it by saying that if she gets pregnant, she could die.

She was a Catechist at Church, a reader, and goes to weekly mass. I was disappointed in her because she always defends other Catholic teachings, but seems to take issue with that one because of her situation.

According to Humanae Vitae, it is never permissible to use contraception in the marital act. As far as I know, her excuse is not a justification, and would be a sin. Especially when she knows it is wrong, and does it anyhow.

Would NFP be even an option for her, or should she just remain celibate?
 
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Would NFP be even an option for her, or should she just remain celibate?
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If she is married, she is not celibate. She and her husband can decide to refrain from relations, remain continent, or they can choose to explore one of the many methods &/or technologies to practice NFP/FAM.
 
A couple may use “NFP” for a just reason. If you and your spouse cannot determine what is a just reason, sit down and talk to your pastor.
 
Elizabeth3 said:
There are many things to consider here.

Her health, her age, her fitness level, her mental ability to handle multiple Caesareans all have to be taken under consideration when making this decision and continuously be taken into consideration as the years progress so adjustments either way can be made. Consulting a dr. or two about the safety in her case also wouldn’t hurt.
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Anecdotally, it seems to be the case that the OB/GYN will be able to give ongoing advice as to his or her opinion of how the uterus is holding up.
 
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Does the encyclical say “in the MARITAL act” specifically?
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It uses the latin “coniugale commercium” or “conjugal commerce” to describe the marital act. Coniugale means proper to marriage, belonging to marriage, belonging to husband and wife. Commercium means intercourse.

From the encyclical “excluded is any action which either before, at the moment of, or after sexual intercourse (coniugale commercium), is specifically intended to prevent procreation—whether as an end or as a means.”

Sexual intercourse in English can mean sex between anyone, married or unmarried, and is pretty wide, but the Latin is much more restrictive and precise. An exact English → Latin translation of “sexual intercourse” meaning of any persons including outside of marriage would be “sexuale commercium”

Conjugal intercourse sounds funny so they went with something better understood, but defined by the context of the surrounding sentences.

P.S. I am a Latin teacher on the weekends 🙂
 
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She was a Catechist at Church, a reader, and goes to weekly mass. I was disappointed in her because she always defends other Catholic teachings, but seems to take issue with that one because of her situation.
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I don’t think you should be even thinking about your sister’s private business this way. It isn’t your place to be disappointed in her. It sounds as if she already has two kids she is raising. If she dies trying to have a third where will that leave them? Without a mother, that is where.

MYOB. Really.
 
I also kind of get the feeling the Church tends to be not too fussy about telling people what they should do in extramarital sexual acts, probably because that would be a pointless endeavor.
 
If the OP’s sister dies in a state of mortal sin it leaves the OP’s sister in hell.
 
The problem is she made it her business to ask about me and my wife’s decision to not use contraception on our wedding day, and told my other non Catholic sisters she used condoms and they then came to us and said “well she is Catholic and she uses condoms”. Put me and my newly Catholic convert wife in a difficult situation, my wife had to defend herself and our decision to use NFP on our wedding day. So yes I’m sorry that I was disappointed, but that is what happened.

She and them should have minded their own business if anything.

Thanks for defending my sister and all but you have no idea of the reality of my family’s relationships, it’s not your place to tell me to mind your own business either.

She makes her business public, and she doesn’t have to have sex at all. She may very well be called to abstain until after menopause.
 
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She makes her business public, and she doesn’t have to have sex at all. She may very well be called to abstain until after menopause.
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Again, you are opining on something that is seriously none of your business.
 
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