Nice girls move to the end of the line?

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umm… okay. :confused:

I’m not sure where all that suddenly came from, but in any case the point is the “men prefer blondes” thing is false.
Actually, the thin thing came into fashion in the 1960s with “Twiggy”, an abnormally thin model, who was probably naturally that thin, or otherwise would have keeled over from a heart attack. People fell in love with the avante garde look, and the rest is history. Before that, beautiful people were normal-sized, in fact, Marilyn Monroe would be a plus size in today’s sizes.
 
If there are any nice girls out there in the general area of New England to New Brunswick looking for an obsessed with the outdoors, music, politics and baseball shoulder long (kind of 1990’s Kurt Cobain if he washed his hair with Paul Mitchell) blonde hair and paul newman like blue eyes kind of guy who thinks very highly of himself, spends alot of time with his friends, and since he picked a major he loved in college will probably be homeless and destitute in a few years kind of guy-look me up!!! 👍

In all seriousness, I like to date nice girls. So they, um…finish first in my book.
 
If there are any nice girls out there in the general area of New England to New Brunswick looking for an obsessed with the outdoors, music, politics and baseball shoulder long (kind of 1990’s Kurt Cobain if he washed his hair with Paul Mitchell) blonde hair and paul newman like blue eyes kind of guy who thinks very highly of himself, spends alot of time with his friends, and since he picked a major he loved in college will probably be homeless and destitute in a few years kind of guy-look me up!!! 👍

In all seriousness, I like to date nice girls. So they, um…finish first in my book.
Hahaha: “I picked a major I liked, and one day I will probably be living in a box”.
Can’t say I fit your criteria, but I think rather highly of your approach: why not just shamelessly advertise wherever you can? :p:D
 
Kib: Yes, Zooey has gorgeous hair; it also probably helps that she has gorgeous eyes and the rest of her is gorgeous, too. :cool: Kk, I gotta stop picking on you, and go exercise or somethin’.
How right you are! Why did she marry Ben Gibbard when I have been here all along?? 😛
 
Hahaha: “I picked a major I liked, and one day I will probably be living in a box”.
Can’t say I fit your criteria, but I think rather highly of your approach: why not just shamelessly advertise wherever you can? :p:D
You should see the billboard I have in downtown Manchester.

The city said something about violating zoning laws, but I say-hey, who wouldn’t like to see my smiling face during traffic jams?
 
Actually, the thin thing came into fashion in the 1960s with “Twiggy”, an abnormally thin model, who was probably naturally that thin, or otherwise would have keeled over from a heart attack. People fell in love with the avante garde look, and the rest is history. Before that, beautiful people were normal-sized, in fact, Marilyn Monroe would be a plus size in today’s sizes.
I don’t see how that relates at all to what I said. :confused:
 
This is pretty much the norm today. 😦 That’s why the single life isn’t all that bad.
Unfortunately. Well, kinda bad for such great genes to go to waste! 😛
why not just shamelessly advertise wherever you can? :p:D
Doesn’t work. You’d still have to do a lot of missionary dating before leading whatever following you get to compatible views on sexual ethics and the upbringing of children and you’re gonna get quite a lot of following you don’t want. Or, in some cases, no following at all anyway. 😉
 
umm… okay. :confused:

I’m not sure where all that suddenly came from, but in any case the point is the “men prefer blondes” thing is false.
I was worried if that came off wrong, sorry. I was just trying to link the blonde hair and thin model subjects together because they have similar origins. To put it simply, the media’s declaration for the superiority of blondes with no hips is absurd. Agreed? What say all of you?
Doesn’t work. You’d still have to do a lot of missionary dating before leading whatever following you get to compatible views on sexual ethics and the upbringing of children and you’re gonna get quite a lot of following you don’t want. Or, in some cases, no following at all anyway. 😉
I understand what you mean by similar views on raising children (which is very important!), but I’m puzzled by “sexual ethics”. I think I know what you mean, but I’d rather you explain before my mind goes deeper in the gutter then it needs to… (I’m not perverted I promise:blush:)
 
I actually like the shy and quiet types of girls. The only problem is they can often times be too quiet and it seems like a lack of interest. Showing a little bit interest or giving not so subtle hints can go a long way (men like me dont pick up on subtlety very well). When I say that a shy and quiet girl is nice it is kind of my way of saying I like you but Im not feeling the same vibes from you. Sometimes, I know other guys call a girl nice to say they werent really attracted to them but didnt want to be mean in breaking it off with them.
 
I was worried if that came off wrong, sorry. I was just trying to link the blonde hair and thin model subjects together because they have similar origins. To put it simply, the media’s declaration for the superiority of blondes with no hips is absurd. Agreed? What say all of you?
I just regret that thin blond guys are out of fashion by now. 😛
I understand what you mean by similar views on raising children (which is very important!), but I’m puzzled by “sexual ethics”. I think I know what you mean, but I’d rather you explain before my mind goes deeper in the gutter then it needs to… (I’m not perverted I promise:blush:)
By sexual ethics I mean teachings on contraception and certain other aspects of “what’s allowed”. This is generally a normal term, it just contains the “s” bomb, so no need to be put off by it. 🙂
I actually like the shy and quiet types of girls. The only problem is they can often times be too quiet and it seems like a lack of interest. Showing a little bit interest or giving not so subtle hints can go a long way (men like me dont pick up on subtlety very well). When I say that a shy and quiet girl is nice it is kind of my way of saying I like you but Im not feeling the same vibes from you. Sometimes, I know other guys call a girl nice to say they werent really attracted to them but didnt want to be mean in breaking it off with them.
Happened to me once when I was 17, the young lady was probably 15 and she called off the first date indefinitely with only a vague proposal of when she would be able to meet. It later turned out she had been interested and I wrongly interpreted the cold shower.

Something I sometimes practice is either verbal statements or conscious body language. I generally have the tendency to be rather unreadable, according to my acquaintances (though maybe not friends) and other people. However, since obviously, you can’t just say, kiss someone without invitation or at least some strong hints, you’re basically left without unmissable body language that doesn’t cross the moral lines (anybody who has any idea of body language will pick it up, but people will generally be oblivious), you might be stuck with verbal messages. Those are tricky because they either constitute irreversible admissions that change the atmosphere between two people, or they are even heavy flirting that can still be downplayed afterwards. So you can’t really rely too much on anything other than serious conversation.
 
the media’s declaration for the superiority of blondes
Thanks for clarifying. I hadn’t even noticed any “media declaration” for the superiority of blondes, but that’s just me. Anyway I wasn’t talking about the media, I was talking about real life.
 
I was worried if that came off wrong, sorry. I was just trying to link the blonde hair and thin model subjects together because they have similar origins. To put it simply, the media’s declaration for the superiority of blondes with no hips is absurd. Agreed? What say all of you?

Personally, I find brunettes more attractive than blondes, but ultimately it is the person, not the hair color.
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I actually like the shy and quiet types of girls. The only problem is they can often times be too quiet and it seems like a lack of interest. Showing a little bit interest or giving not so subtle hints can go a long way (men like me dont pick up on subtlety very well).
I agree. I need more than subtle hints to realize a girl is interested. It is weird, but I can read body language reasonably well when I observe two other people, but when it comes to me and someone else I don’t pick up on any subtle nonverbal cues. I’ve been in situations where I would talk to a girl I just met, a friend of a friend, etc and one of my females friends would later ask, so who was that girl you were talking to, she was totally into you. And I would basically have no clue.
 
Personally, I find brunettes more attractive than blondes, but ultimately it is the person, not the hair color.
Judging by experience, I tend to be attracted the most to what falls between red and brown.
I agree. I need more than subtle hints to realize a girl is interested. It is weird, but I can read body language reasonably well when I observe two other people, but when it comes to me and someone else I don’t pick up on any subtle nonverbal cues.
Because you don’t have a wide perimeter. As a rule, you want to see signs of getting relaxed, making herself comfortable and dropping her guards in your presence (often leading to friendship, however), mirroring your gesture or tilting her head so that she can hear you better etc. (interest) and there are certain signs of attraction such as cheeks going red, skin changing colour to a more radiant one and smoothening up etc. (better circulation in general), plus the good old clumsiness such as dropping items or spilling liquids when around an object of affections, as well as possible signs of attempting self-control (when people try not to show anything and it shows that they are trying not to show). But you must observe all such signs in an integral context and with proper background, so not just isolated little clues. I think intuition isn’t a bad indicator because that way you can pick up clues of flirting that you wouldn’t have the time to process consciously.
I’ve been in situations where I would talk to a girl I just met, a friend of a friend, etc and one of my females friends would later ask, so who was that girl you were talking to, she was totally into you. And I would basically have no clue.
Possibly she was non-threatening, non-invasive, non-initiating, very receptive and maybe responsive, which could result in your not seeing anything specific, but this is just my speculation. Or possibly you weren’t attracted and you meant business, in which case you wouldn’t be on the lookout and could even be shutting away such information. An obvious explanation could also be that she was showing interest in particularly female ways and thus your female friends noticed it better than you did, same as if you would spot a guy being into your lady friend before she did. By the way, your lady friends *can *be mistaken.

Please note that sometimes a girl is apparently totally into you but doesn’t want a relationship. Generally, body language will convey minute moods and subconscious attitudes which will be masked and contained by people trained in self-control, such as diplomats, authority figures, people with traditional upbringing, maybe even veteran social minglers. At other times, the sentiments and emotions will not be hidden but the same person not hiding them will be very resistant to acting on them (which may be the actual reason for not bothering to hide them). Plus, people who are going through internal conflicts will send mixed and contradictory signals and their decisions may differ rather largely from what they seem to show in their behaviour and some of their actions.

Besides, sometimes the interest will be more in terms of personal, intellectual, social or some other interest, including admiration, but will not include desire for a romantic relationship, so you will have someone totally into you but still not the way that leads to becoming your Mrs. Or even so, the person may be smitten with you but say, have a stable boyfriend. Self control would fail at flirting level, but should you say, touch her arm, she could attempt to dislocate yours all the same. 🙂

Here’s $0.02 from a histrionic lawyer. 😛
 
Thanks to everyone who responded I thought the views expressed were interesting. Maybe someday we’ll all find our right matches…maybe not but at least we tried hey 👍. I’m leaving the dating world behind unless someone absolutely fabulous shows up and with my dating record that is highly unlikely but then again you never know. :D:shrug:👍
 
Thanks to everyone who responded I thought the views expressed were interesting. Maybe someday we’ll all find our right matches…maybe not but at least we tried hey 👍. I’m leaving the dating world behind unless someone absolutely fabulous shows up and with my dating record that is highly unlikely but then again you never know. :D:shrug:👍
Don’t feel so discouraged, someone will come along. That sure happend in my life, and it most definetly happend when I wasn’t expecting it.
 
I’m similarly inclined to retire. I’m tired already, my efforts don’t work out and it seems I’m just too outdated for the modern world. I have nothing to do with Victorian revival and I’m rather well with the tech etc., but it seems the way I convey interest or try to reach a woman’s heart inevitably makes me reach it as a friend (fast and successfully, oftentimes spectacularly, not rarely romantically, but invariably as a friend in the end), in other words, these days women seem to be fond more of the “bad boy” type, not even as the iconic rebel that doesn’t play by the rules, but simply a man rough around the edges, coarse in his manner, looking out for number one, not very reverent towards omen, let alone particularly caring… what matters instead seems to be thrill, mystery, even danger and insecurity and in terms of appreciation–predominately sexual appreciation, with *romance *being seen as something odd or even perverted. That is precisely the kind of man I have never wanted to be and I will not jump ship and join the other team to win now, even if I probably could pull it off, as that would be the real defeat and I don’t want to do it anyway.
 
*Women can be just as scared of getting hurt, as men. So, chev…it’s possible that women might find your ‘‘tactics’’ appealing, but they put you into a friend category out of fear. Fear is a powerful thing. I say that only if a girl is responding in like kind to you…and not dismissing you, without even an inkling of a chance. But, I know for myself…my husband scared me a bit. :o He was very determined, honest, and made a point early on of saying…’‘he does not want to be my friend, he had plenty of ‘em.’’ lol He said, he wants to be more than my friend, and if I don’t want that, to tell him. I told him I wanted to be his friend, out of fear of commitment and getting hurt. I also was used to dating boys, and not men…My husband was very much a man, 11 yrs older, but mature beyond what I was used to…so, I naturally was taken aback by such frankness.

We parted for a time, but lucky for me, he tried one more time. :o

The rest is history. ❤️ Human beings can be complicated at times. :o*
 
*Women can be just as scared of getting hurt, as men. So, chev…it’s possible that women might find your ‘‘tactics’’ appealing, but they put you into a friend category out of fear. Fear is a powerful thing. I say that only if a girl is responding in like kind to you…and not dismissing you, without even an inkling of a chance. But, I know for myself…my husband scared me a bit. :o He was very determined, honest, and made a point early on of saying…’‘he does not want to be my friend, he had plenty of ‘em.’’ lol He said, he wants to be more than my friend, and if I don’t want that, to tell him. I told him I wanted to be his friend, out of fear of commitment and getting hurt. I also was used to dating boys, and not men…My husband was very much a man, 11 yrs older, but mature beyond what I was used to…so, I naturally was taken aback by such frankness.

We parted for a time, but lucky for me, he tried one more time. :o

The rest is history. ❤️ Human beings can be complicated at times. :o*
I am scared to be hurt again as well, so I tend to put up a wall when a guy shows interest in me. :eek: hides behind couch with cats 😛 So I’m trying to be more open for what God has for me. 🙂
 
Thanks to everyone who responded I thought the views expressed were interesting. Maybe someday we’ll all find our right matches…maybe not but at least we tried hey 👍. I’m leaving the dating world behind unless someone absolutely fabulous shows up and with my dating record that is highly unlikely but then again you never know. :D:shrug:👍
Do it, Sierrah-girl!! Since having given up boys for Lent for one day so far, I woke up promptly with my alarm, with energy to spare, off to Mass, and am in an incredible mood! This is BIZARRE, given my current health situation, and the fact that nothing else I’ve tried has given me this result in months!! Why did I not do this sooner? 🤷
 
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