Nicki Minaj levitates, lights fires, speaks in tongues for Grammys performance of new single 'Roman Holiday'

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TevereNauta said:
Here ya go, from the WashPost:

Nicki Minaj performs mock exorcism at the Grammy’s

I think it is a bit overated myself. I mean, are we to care every time some lady of ‘easy virtue’ gyrates on a platform to really shrill, awful music? She is a confused, debauched girl IMHO.

If anyone disagrees about the caliber of this girl’s intellect, please Google her latest musical hit "Stupid ***’ [a garden instrument used to aerate soil…three letters, starts with a ‘h’ and ends with an ‘e’ :o]
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I think this was way beyond gyrating to really shrill awful music. This was totally slamming and mocking the Catholic Church. I need addresses, but can’t find where to write.
 
You indeed have a point coco…I only chimed in because, with the rather substantive attacks against the Church which came like an onslaught today, I was more concerned with them than what I consider to be a talentless hack, and a sad one at that.

I guess, if anything, this was just another prong of the anti-Catholicism we have seen unleashed today.
 
she obviously was wanting to create controversy and wanted to be a topic of conversation when it came to grammy night. i wouldn’t call what she did entertainment. it was a jumbled mess of everything. the song was terrible and the whole presentation was awful.
i hadn’t watched the grammy’s for several years and the only reason i watched it last night was to see the tributes to whitney. i found nicki minaj’s act inappropriate. if someone wants to pay to see her in concert and watch her give a ridiculous performance like that, it is one thing. no wonder record sales are down is all i can say!
 
7_Sorrows said:
she obviously was wanting to create controversy and wanted to be a topic of conversation when it came to grammy night. i wouldn’t call what she did entertainment. it was a jumbled mess of everything. the song was terrible and the whole presentation was awful.
i hadn’t watched the grammy’s for several years and the only reason i watched it last night was to see the tributes to whitney. i found nicki minaj’s act inappropriate. if someone wants to pay to see her in concert and watch her give a ridiculous performance like that, it is one thing. no wonder record sales are down is all i can say!
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Record sales? Who buys records anymore. I buy iTunes credits and purchase the songs I really like. Most albums nowadays have 1 - 2 songs worth paying money for, the rest is just filler.

I can think of maybe 5 albums in all of music history where every song is worth listening to.

Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
Boston - Boston
Michael Jackson - Thriller
Beatles - Sgt. Pepper Lonely Hearts Club Band
Whitney Houston - Whitney Houston
U2 - The Joshua Tree

Honorable Mentions:
Eagles - Hotel California
Beatles - The White Album
Van Halen - Van Halen
AC/DC - Back in Black
Led Zepplin - IV
Prince and the Revolution - Purple Rain
 
Scott_Lafrance said:
Record sales? Who buys records anymore. I buy iTunes credits and purchase the songs I really like. Most albums nowadays have 1 - 2 songs worth paying money for, the rest is just filler.

I can think of maybe 5 albums in all of music history where every song is worth listening to.

Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
Boston - Boston
Michael Jackson - Thriller
Beatles - Sgt. Pepper Lonely Hearts Club Band
Whitney Houston - Whitney Houston
U2 - The Joshua Tree

Honorable Mentions:
Eagles - Hotel California
Beatles - The White Album
Van Halen - Van Halen
AC/DC - Back in Black
Led Zepplin - IV
Prince and the Revolution - Purple Rain
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okay, you know what i mean. record sales, CD sales, whatever. yes, i know downloading to IPODS is the thing now, but i think the music industry is in trouble.
i haven’t bought any music in years. i loved all kinds of music. i haven’t watched the grammy’s in years. they used to give exposure to more kinds of music. this show wasn’t that good the other night. i didn’t like many of the acts. chris brown is overrated.
nicki minaj might be the female rapper of the moment, but i wasn’t impressed with the song or the performance.
 
Digitonomy said:
I at least partially buy the claim you discuss. But this is where I’m confused, as I mentioned earlier, about the problem with her performance. Is it such a bad thing that people imagine themselves taking part in, or at least taking seriously, an exorcism?
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Was this an exorcism? There was certainly a demonic aspect. There was what appeared to be a Catholic priest. He seemed to do something which might have been an exorcism. If it was it seemed to fail. It would be good if people took seriously demonic possession and exorcism. But if that message got through so did whatever was intended by the women dancers spreading their legs in the face of the altar boys while they kneeled.
 
:whistle:I’m wondering if the whole thing was some sort of sick spoof of Madonna’s Like A Prayer. Nicki was on the half time show at the Superbowl with Madonna and Cee Lo Green.It didn’t seem to be that they got to do a whole lot on their own, mainly singing Madonna’s praises.
Then Madonna did Like A Prayer with the black gospel choir backup,in what my sister called her Kabbalah dress, to which her hubby Ross made the remark “She thinks she’s Super Jew”.
Now, lest anyone get upset, my brother in law is a jew,and Madonna has admited studying Kabbalah.

I wonder if Nicki got mad that she didn’t get in her mind more air time,or her record label did.
So they decided to get back at Madonna.In her video for Like A Prayer, Madonna visits a Catholic Church and starts singing to a statute of St.Martin De Porres,and later,instead of abunch of guys dressed as monks chanting, she has a black gospel choir backing her up,as she sings to St.Martin,who was a black saint.
So Nicki had a white guy as pope,a white guy as a priest, and a choir of monks of mixed races,with a BLACK woman singing to a white man. White and black, black and white.
And the excorcist stuff was also a parody of Madonna’s interest in the Kabbalah and the occult.
It wasn’t a dig at us ordinary Catholics on the street, or maybe even the Church herself, but rather at Madonna,and her being a hypocrite.Claiming to be of a Catholic background, and here she is studying the occult and magic.
 
Scott_Lafrance said:
Record sales? Who buys records anymore. I buy iTunes credits and purchase the songs I really like. Most albums nowadays have 1 - 2 songs worth paying money for, the rest is just filler.

I can think of maybe 5 albums in all of music history where every song is worth listening to.

Boston - Boston
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I guess if you like them every song is worth listening to, because they all sound the same.
 
HollyDolly said:
I wonder if Nicki got mad that she didn’t get in her mind more air time,or her record label did.
So they decided to get back at Madonna.In her video for Like A Prayer,
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According to Nicki she didn’t chose the song ‘Roman Holiday’ - which means ‘pleasure or advantage gained from the discomfort or suffering of others.’ According to Nicki the Grammy producers chose it:
“The Grammys chose ‘Roman Holiday.’ The producers of the Grammys came to the studio and I played them ‘Roman Holiday,’ and I could not play them another record after they heard that. They went crazy. I could have chosen to do a no-brainer pop song, but I can’t do it anymore. I have to stay true to what I’m doing.”
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I think the media is much more of a top down organization than some people realize. What these media ‘stars’ do is not always, or maybe even often, their ideas.
HollyDolly said:
So Nicki had a white guy as pope,a white guy as a priest, and a choir of monks of mixed races,with a BLACK woman singing to a white man. White and black, black and white.
And the excorcist stuff was also a parody of Madonna’s interest in the Kabbalah and the occult.

It wasn’t a dig at us ordinary Catholics on the street, or maybe even the Church herself, but rather at Madonna,and her being a hypocrite.Claiming to be of a Catholic background, and here she is studying the occult and magic.
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Madonna has lost relevance as she has gotten older. In an attempt to prop up her brand they associate her with popular, younger acts. This is not new. They had her dance with Brittany Spears and engage in a lesbian kiss at one event. The black, white and red imagery is meaningful I think. These are typical occult colors. Of course not all use of them is occultic. But given the circumstances I think it has a much greater chance. I do not think they were an accident. It is worth noting the priest and I believe the two alter boys who were defiled were all White. There was diversity everywhere else.
 
The pictures of Nicki’s performance alone offended me greatly as I did not watch the show. How the Grammy people allowed that on air is beyond me. I know Madonna and Lady Gaga have used Catholic imagery in their music videos but never took it to the extent Nicki did recently in my opinion.
 
exnihilo said:
According to Nicki she didn’t chose the song ‘Roman Holiday’ - which means ‘pleasure or advantage gained from the discomfort or suffering of others.’ According to Nicki the Grammy producers chose it:
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This makes it all the more disgusting, that the Grammy producers would be so excited about mocking the Catholic Church.
 
exnihilo said:
Was this an exorcism? There was certainly a demonic aspect. There was what appeared to be a Catholic priest. He seemed to do something which might have been an exorcism. If it was it seemed to fail. It would be good if people took seriously demonic possession and exorcism. But if that message got through so did whatever was intended by the women dancers spreading their legs in the face of the altar boys while they kneeled.
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I didn’t think exorcisms always succeeded - certainly they don’t in the movies, which is the language being used in the show. I didn’t notice the dancers spreading their legs for the altar boys, but it is after all a lively music video made into a halftime show. Vulgar images like that pervade our entertainment world. The skit could just as easily have been about the military, or some other dramatic and well-known segment of society. Had that been the case, no one would be suggesting that the incorporation of vulgar acts constituted an attack on the military. Neither is it an attack here. Inappropriate, yes, but that’s a matter of taste, and it’s also violating taste that makes the show “edgy” - even though as others have noted, that’s just barely the case for warmed-over Madonna leftovers.
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exnihilo:
It is worth noting the priest and I believe the two alter boys who were defiled were all White. There was diversity everywhere else.
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I think that was the point of HollyDolly - that the main characters were white while the singer was black, the reverse of Madonna
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exnihilo:
According to Nicki she didn’t chose the song ‘Roman Holiday’ - which means ‘pleasure or advantage gained from the discomfort or suffering of others.’
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I’m confused - are you saying the phrase “Roman holiday” means that? Or the song’s message is that? Either way, I’d like a source.
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exnihilo:
I think the media is much more of a top down organization than some people realize. What these media ‘stars’ do is not always, or maybe even often, their ideas.
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I think in the case of the halftime show, music stars are likely to be pretty flexible. I read the other day that sales of singles featured, and albums in general by the artists included, go up by about 500% following the Super Bowl. Whoever is the overall artistic director of the halftime show can probably convince the artists involved to do pretty much whatever he wants. Having said that, they’re not going to gamble on something untested…I’m not familiar with her show, but I’m sure this halftime skit doesn’t differ that much from Nicki Minaj’s usual stage show. If it’s something she’s already put together, why would she object that the Super Bowl prefers that song to one of her others?
 
exnihilo said:
According to Nicki she didn’t chose the song ‘Roman Holiday’ - which means ‘pleasure or advantage gained from the discomfort or suffering of others.’ …
Digitonomy;8960425:
…I’m confused - are you saying the phrase “Roman holiday” means that? Or the song’s message is that? …
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That is what “Roman holiday” means.

"Roman holiday

noun

  1. *]a public spectacle or controversy marked by barbarism, vindictiveness, or scandal.
    *]pleasure or advantage gained from the discomfort or suffering of others.
    Origin:
    1885–90"

    Source: dictionary.reference.com/browse/Roman+holiday
 
I emailed CBS and on my way now to call

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General Mills 1-800-248-7310
Campbell’s 1-800-257-8443
 
That the Recording Academy and Producers of the Grammys would give voice to such anti-Catholic bigotry should be a surprise to no one. And watch out if you object too strongly. You just might find youself slandered. Bill Donohue (Catholic League) might find himself lined up against that same wall that Pat Buchanan currently is leaning up against.

I recall when “The Last Temptation of Christ” came out, and the great Italian film and stage director, Franco Zeffirelli, directed his outrage at Universal Studios Mogul Lew Wasserman for releasing such a blatently blasphemous movie. Well, Mr. Zefferilli found himself accused of anti-Semitism, and instead of being able to state his objections to the film, he had to spend his time defending himself against the baseless accusations.

It seems that a duplicitous double standard exists in Hollywood, and in most media for that matter, which erects a zero-tolerance shield protecting one group, while encouraging and promoting an “open season” attitude when it comes to the Roman Catholic Church.

That Nicki Manaj performed such an egregious mockery of the Church on a nationally televised event is reprehensible. However, that the puppetmasters of the Recording Academy sanctioned such a performance should chill all Catholics to the bone. Also, that this stuff is done with absolute impunity speaks volumes to the arrogance (and power) of these media entities.
 
SwizzleStick said:
Looks like her performance was not well received by anyone.

"Grammy viewers mock Nicki Minaj’s ‘exorcism’ performance

Hollywood, Calif., Feb 14, 2012 / 12:59 am (CNA).- Rapper Nicki Minaj drew ridicule from viewers of the 2012 Grammy Awards on Feb. 12, with a performance that parodied the Catholic rites of confession and exorcism. "…

Entire article: catholicnewsagency.com/news/grammy-viewers-mock-nicki-minajs-exorcism-performance
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“Stevie Wonder was the luckiest person in the audience at the Grammys”
Yeah that made me laugh.
Digitonomy said:
Thanks for the reference - I wasn’t aware of that before, and the fairly innocuous 1953 movie that is the best-known use of the phrase doesn’t really drive the point home.
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Nikki Minaj also has a rapping “alter ego” (kind of like Eminem has Slim Shady or whatever) called “Roman Zolanski” (yeah, I know, creative right? take one of the most famous film directors of all time and change one letter of his name, you think she thought of that all by herself?) so I’m sure “Roman Holiday” has to do with that.
 
the movie Roman Holiday with Gregory Peck and Audrey Hepburn was one of my favorite movies.

i am sorry the song she sang has the same title.

why would the grammy’s choose the song she was to perform? were they the ones that put together the performance also? if so, that could be the last grammy’s show that i ever watch.
 
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