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Unique_name
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Again, I’m not concerned merely that I’m not receiving the Eucharist. Am I, or am I not, in mortal sin? If I die, will I, or will I not, be in a state of grace?
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Unique_name
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If only God and I can know that, then why can’t I take Eucharist?
I’m not going to take it without permission. I’m going to pray about it, and I’m going to be counting down the days until I can take it. I can still question it and seek understanding while I do. Questions aren’t a bad thing and I don’t know why so many people are dismissing them and keep saying to do the same thing I’m doing as though those are answers to my questions.
I’m not going to take it without permission. I’m going to pray about it, and I’m going to be counting down the days until I can take it. I can still question it and seek understanding while I do. Questions aren’t a bad thing and I don’t know why so many people are dismissing them and keep saying to do the same thing I’m doing as though those are answers to my questions.
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Unique_name
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I’m sorry, but I don’t think that’s wise advice in this scenario. I’m quite confident that these questions have answers and I want to find them. Hard questions shouldn’t be met with “trust and let it go.”
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MiserereMei
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Hello. One way to look at things is this: to receive the Eucharist, one must 1) Not have committed mortal sin, and 2) Be a Catholic in good standing with the Church.
If you have gone to confession, you can be assured of #1.
However, since you (and I), are involved in invalid marriages, and this is known by our pastors, we do not meet #2. That is the reason you and I are barred. We have not rectified our rebellions against the Church, though we have been forgiven the sin of it.
We must see it to the end, taking responsibility for our errors.
If you have gone to confession, you can be assured of #1.
However, since you (and I), are involved in invalid marriages, and this is known by our pastors, we do not meet #2. That is the reason you and I are barred. We have not rectified our rebellions against the Church, though we have been forgiven the sin of it.
We must see it to the end, taking responsibility for our errors.
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Unique_name
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Wouldn’t #2 be dependant on #1?
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Unique_name
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Waiting on an email from him as I type this.
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Unique_name
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Thank you!
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MiserereMei
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Yes, but they are not equivalent statements. You cannot meet #2 without meeting #1, but you can meet #1 without meeting #2.
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Unique_name
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That’s insanely helpful. I was not aware of that.
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TheLittleLady
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Ask your pastor what his reasons are. This is why it is called a “pastoral decision”, it is literally up to your pastor.
There are other reasons why one does not receive while in a state of grace. If a person has not kept the Eucharistic fast, they are not “in a state of sin”, but, they do not receive. If a person has already received twice in that day, they do not receive.
No, it means that your pastor has reasons. Talk to him about it. It could be the chance of scandal. It could be that is your Diocese policy, just talk about it.
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MiserereMei
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I’ll have to respond in a few hours. Break at work is over.
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stpurl
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Why not check with Father again? Honestly, that is the only way you can actually know. Oh, you’re waiting for an email? That’s excellent.
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phil19034
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No, not necessarily.
People refrain from communion for all sorts of reasons. Broke the fast, not Catholic, irregular marriage, had a bad morning, drank too much the night before, etc.
Trust me, no one is going to think twice you not receiving.
HOWEVER, if “Susan from the Parish Council” does give you the stink eye, you can sic Father on her!
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twf
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And really it’s only in North America, I think, where there’s this assumption almost everyone will receive…
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CatholicSooner
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IMO, if you are now living as brother and sister, and you have had a good confession, you should be allowed to partake in the Eucharist. I don’t see a reason why you shouldn’t be able to
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CatholicSooner
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The priest that told you not to take communnion is the one that needs to give you the answers.
Rest assured though, if you are following the instruction of a priest obediently, “missing” communion will not be a mortal sin for you. Like others said, I would offer you pain and suffering for others. God desires obedience. You are blessed that it is only for a relatively short amount of time.
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phil19034
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I can’t think of many examples other than invalid marriage and cohabitation. Could also be situations where a priest leaves the priesthood.
Essentially, it is this: whenever your situation APPEARS to other people that you are objectively sinning (even if you are not), it’s often good to refrain from Communion in order to avoid scandal.
Non-Catholics have this thing about how one is not responsible for the sins of others. However, we Catholics don’t look at it like that. If our example leads someone else to sin (even if they mistakenly think we are sinning), we can be guilty of the mortal sin of scandal.
So if you husband discussed your situation in RCIA class, the priest might want you to refrain from communion in order to avoid scandal.
So sometimes, we refrain not to protect our own souls, but to protect the souls of others.
I hope this helps.
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phil19034
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True. When you attend a spanish mass, almost 1/2 the people stay in their pews. And I don’t think that’s because half the people are in mortal sin. But rather, many feel they are not in the right frame of mind to receive.
@unique_name: I know for myself, if I get upset at the music director for her choice of song, I will not receive communion. I refrain because I know that I just allowed myself to get mad over nothing, and even if I didn’t mortally sin; I still refrain because I’m not in the right frame of mind.
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