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Cor_ad_Cor
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Depends (in both cases) on your intentions. Did you counter the proper spirit of the day on purpose?
No Friday abstinence tomorrow (All Saints' Day)
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dochawk
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what’s odd is that we saved those prints, even though it won’t happen again in the lifetime of anyone living today . . .
That was less than clear in what came down at the parish level . . . but holding Divine Liturgy on a Lenten Friday, let alone Good Friday, was a shockingly rae even.
Also, we had not the usual two, but three layers of altar cloths: blue, which was removed partway through (and the priest changed from blue to black vestments, while the servers changed from light to dark, iirc), on top of white (removed at the Saturday vigil).
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Margaret_Ann
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Don’t forget Blessed Theodore Romzha and the Servant of God Metropolitan Andrew Sheptytsky!
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Margaret_Ann
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We still have the booklets in my parish. 
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dochawk
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mine, too, stored for, uhm, our great- great- great- great- great-grandchildren? In 2157 . . .We still have the booklets in my parish.
While I suppose there are a handful of people alive today (most of whom aren’t yet housebroken) that will have children late in life who will be elderly by then . . .
Gee, by then, maybe the calendars will be fixed (I think this was the last year for quite a while that both the old and new calendars both missed the proper calculation of Pascha . . . )
[thread moved to Catholic Living . . .we could use a flat-out theology or church law forum . . .]
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Margaret_Ann
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Also, my father’s молитовник from 1959 (My Divine Friend) says this re the Annunciation:
“If this feast occurs on Good Friday the Eastern Church dispenses her faithful from the obligation of abstinence and the Divine Liturgy is celebrated, for it was the greatest day in our (sic!) Lady’s life. The Christians should rejoice at the Incarnation of the Divine Word and the elevation of Mary to divine Motherhood which raises her above the highest rank of the Angels.”
Source: Schudlo, Rev. M., compiler. My Divine Friend, 1959, Yorktown, SK, Canada, Redeemer’s Voice Press, p. 604.
God used this to not only save my faith but save my life as well (but that’s another story).
“If this feast occurs on Good Friday the Eastern Church dispenses her faithful from the obligation of abstinence and the Divine Liturgy is celebrated, for it was the greatest day in our (sic!) Lady’s life. The Christians should rejoice at the Incarnation of the Divine Word and the elevation of Mary to divine Motherhood which raises her above the highest rank of the Angels.”
Source: Schudlo, Rev. M., compiler. My Divine Friend, 1959, Yorktown, SK, Canada, Redeemer’s Voice Press, p. 604.
God used this to not only save my faith but save my life as well (but that’s another story).
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babochka
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The liturgical commemoration for Blessed Theodore Romzha was moved from November 1 to October 31 in 2009. It was originally set at November 1st because his death was recorded in Moscow time. According to local time, his date of death was actually October 31st.
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Margaret_Ann
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On the Ukrainian Greek Catholic calendar, we have it on Nov.1:
November 1, 2019
The Holy Wonderworkers and Unmercenaries Cosmas and Damian; Passing into Eternal Life of Metropolitan Andrei Sheptytsky, 1944; Passing into Eternal Life (1947) of Blessed Theodore Romzha, Bishop of Mukachevo, and Martyr; Abstinence from meat and foods that contain meat.
EPISTLE - Colossians 2:1-7; GOSPEL - Luke 9:12-17
November 1, 2019
The Holy Wonderworkers and Unmercenaries Cosmas and Damian; Passing into Eternal Life of Metropolitan Andrei Sheptytsky, 1944; Passing into Eternal Life (1947) of Blessed Theodore Romzha, Bishop of Mukachevo, and Martyr; Abstinence from meat and foods that contain meat.
EPISTLE - Colossians 2:1-7; GOSPEL - Luke 9:12-17
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babochka
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That’s interesting. I know that it was changed at the request of the Eparchy of Mukachevo. I only know the details of the change because it is my son’s name day and the change occurred the year that he was born and there was a big article about him in our Eparchial newsletter. Maybe after his canonization other churches that have him on the calendar will make the change as well. This is one way that little, and ultimately insignificant, differences exist between regional calendars.
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Vico
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Celebrated then, were the Divine Liturgy of St. Basil the Great with Vespers and Annunciation on Thursday evening, full bright vestments, and on Friday evening, the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom with Vespers and Annunciation, with full bright vestments, with the Burial Procession after, with dark vestments.
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dochawk
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IIRC, the DL wasn’t bright vestments all the way through. Marian for the priest and altar and bright for the servers (our blue are only in child sizes), and partway though (I now forget when–after Communion, perhaps?) the DL we switched. I don’t think that it was just for the burial, though . . .
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Vico
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Your parish priest probably has chosen different colors than ours. I have seen only the following in our vestment collection: white, gold, green, light-blue, red, black. The red seems to be a medium shade. I remember the use of black vestments in our parish on Great and Holy Friday.
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dochawk
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For the altar and priest, we have black for Holy Friday through the first part of the Saturday vigil, White for Pacha, Blue for Marian, and Green for most of the time.
For altar servers, we have white and dark red.
OK, there are also probably the blue ones somewhere . . . but one day our prior priest asked us to wear them. I did manage to get the largest over me–but I looked like an overfilled sausage in an indecently short miniskirt!
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[note: while Blue is not a liturgical color in the RCC{although dispensations exist for some countries and priest to use them}, it is a standard color in byzantine practice.]
For altar servers, we have white and dark red.
OK, there are also probably the blue ones somewhere . . . but one day our prior priest asked us to wear them. I did manage to get the largest over me–but I looked like an overfilled sausage in an indecently short miniskirt!
. . .[note: while Blue is not a liturgical color in the RCC{although dispensations exist for some countries and priest to use them}, it is a standard color in byzantine practice.]
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