No, I don't bow to the Precious Blood

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EasterJoy said:
I see what you mean. Still, if you stop and turn towards the Blessed Sacrament in order to do it, then yes, you could have someone running into you. You might also have someone who just received turning around and running into you. It depends on the layout of the area.

If you don’t stop or turn in order to do it, then in many cases you would be sort of tossing a nod over your shoulder. That isn’t much of an alternative.

I’m not saying it is impossible to do it or that it doesn’t work as you suggest at your parish. I am just suggesting that there are reasons other than lack of reverence that this would not be the general rule.

PS I was also taught by a deacon that it is not correct to genuflect when you are carrying the Blessed Sacrament, even in a pyx. This doesn’t apply when you have received, but when you are carrying the Blessed Sacrament prior to consumption.
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You’re no more likely to have someone bump into you, or to be ‘in anyone’s way’ or ‘inelegant’ (as if Paul said ‘every knee should bow except when it’s inelegant to do so’ :rolleyes: ) by reverencing the Chalice in passing than those people do who stand in line to actually receive from the Chalice.

I pause briefly where the end of that line of people is (if there are any lining up, usually there aren’t), bow my head and then move on. This means, as I said, that I am no more in anyone’s way than those who actually receive 🤷

By the way, until recently when our Aussie Bishops put out new guidelines, I always genuflected before receiving the Host. Never had anyone trip over me or bump into me (not that I can recall, and I’m pretty confident that I WOULD recall it). If they were inconvenienced then I’m sorry for them but at Communion Our Lord takes priority over any person’s convenience, and I know I wouldn’t think ill of anyone who was genuflecting ahead of me even if it was inconvenient for me.
 
LilyM said:
You’re no more likely to have someone bump into you, or to be ‘in anyone’s way’ or ‘inelegant’ (as if Paul said ‘every knee should bow except when it’s inelegant to do so’ :rolleyes: ) by reverencing the Chalice in passing than those people do who stand in line to actually receive from the Chalice.

I pause briefly where the end of that line of people is (if there are any lining up, usually there aren’t), bow my head and then move on. This means, as I said, that I am no more in anyone’s way than those who actually receive 🤷

By the way, until recently when our Aussie Bishops put out new guidelines, I always genuflected before receiving the Host. Never had anyone trip over me or bump into me (not that I can recall, and I’m pretty confident that I WOULD recall it). If they were inconvenienced then I’m sorry for them but at Communion Our Lord takes priority over any person’s convenience, and I know I wouldn’t think ill of anyone who was genuflecting ahead of me even if it was inconvenient for me.
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Or ego…
 
Spiller said:
She became a coordinator (not “the” coordinator) 2-3 pastors ago. No one listens to coordinators around here. They are guided by “the spirit of Vatican II” and many resent that.
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Aah, now I get it…:rolleyes:
 
Spiller said:
She became a coordinator (not “the” coordinator) 2-3 pastors ago. No one listens to coordinators around here. They are guided by “the spirit of Vatican II” and many resent that.
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If she hasn’t been fired, then you may assume that she has the pastor’s backing, and that she is following his instructions to his satisfaction.
 
nicolep said:
I still genuflect before the tabernacle after I have received communion. Whether I receive the Precious Blood or not, the Blood is still Jesus. I will give the reverence that is due.
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Definitely!!!
 
jmcrae said:
If she hasn’t been fired, then you may assume that she has the pastor’s backing, and that she is following his instructions to his satisfaction.
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Not really. Certainly not on matters like this – it’s none of her business.
 
Spiller said:
When not engaged in a liturgical ministry I typically receive under one kind. Not for any theological reason – receiving the Precious Blood via a chalice makes me seriously ravenous!

I was told by our liturgical coordinator that I should reverence the Precious Blood in the chalice as I walk past it. I said no – at that instance I have His Body, Blood Soul and Divinity sacramentally present inside of my own body and that It should be my sole focus.

I remember reading an essay from someone I respected on this matter – it largely formed my own understanding and practice, but I’ll be darned if I can remember who it is.

What are your thoughts?
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Normally, you would reverence the presence of the Holy Eucharist when passing a church on the road, correct? You do this out of love, respect and reverence even though you are not receiving. Since Christ is present in every consecrated host, and in every Chalice, why not acknowledge that as you pass?

Christ’s peace.
 
LilyM said:
You’re no more likely to have someone bump into you, or to be ‘in anyone’s way’ or ‘inelegant’ (as if Paul said ‘every knee should bow except when it’s inelegant to do so’ :rolleyes: ) by reverencing the Chalice in passing than those people do who stand in line to actually receive from the Chalice.

I pause briefly where the end of that line of people is (if there are any lining up, usually there aren’t), bow my head and then move on. This means, as I said, that I am no more in anyone’s way than those who actually receive 🤷

By the way, until recently when our Aussie Bishops put out new guidelines, I always genuflected before receiving the Host. Never had anyone trip over me or bump into me (not that I can recall, and I’m pretty confident that I WOULD recall it). If they were inconvenienced then I’m sorry for them but at Communion Our Lord takes priority over any person’s convenience, and I know I wouldn’t think ill of anyone who was genuflecting ahead of me even if it was inconvenient for me.
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Nobody said anything about anybody thinking ill of you. Nobody said you couldn’t show reverence by genuflecting or couldn’t discern that you were in circumstances where the reverence of stopping to bow would be absolutely non-problematic.

The question I was trying to answer was whether there might be reasons that the practice, while obviously of pious intent, is not mandated, because it isn’t. At any rate, if someone chooses not to show reverence in the way that you do, no one should think ill of them, either, right? 😉

The GIRM specifically mandates the reverence for those who are receiving the Precious Blood. It is not impious for those who are not receiving under that species to omit it. It should not be implied that it is.
 
LilyM said:
Of course I go on my knees before Our Lord, or bow my head in honour of His presence, as St Paul says we must, out of ego :rolleyes:
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And the Catholic Church says differently – at least for the OF.
 
po18guy said:
Normally, you would reverence the presence of the Holy Eucharist when passing a church on the road, correct? You do this out of love, respect and reverence even though you are not receiving. Since Christ is present in every consecrated host, and in every Chalice, why not acknowledge that as you pass?

Christ’s peace.
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Poor analogy. I have not* just* received Holy Communion when I pass the Church on the road.
 
po18guy said:
Normally, you would reverence the presence of the Holy Eucharist when passing a church on the road, correct? You do this out of love, respect and reverence even though you are not receiving. Since Christ is present in every consecrated host, and in every Chalice, why not acknowledge that as you pass?

Christ’s peace.
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Poor analogy. I have not* just* received Holy Communion when I pass the Church on the road.
 
LilyM said:
The Catholic Church says I DO do it out of ego? :confused:
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No, the Catholic Church says the time you selected for reverence is not a time when every knee *shall *bend. As far as that goes, St. Paul wrote that at the name of Jesus, every knee shall bend…someone else came up with the extrapolation.

PS When I read the post you refer to, I thought the poster’s reference to ego came from the impression that if you have decided you’re doing something reverent, you don’t care what is convenient for anyone else. You didn’t mean it that way, did you?
 
EasterJoy said:
No, the Catholic Church says the time you selected for reverence is not a time when every knee *shall *bend. As far as that goes, St. Paul wrote that at the name of Jesus, every knee shall bend…someone else came up with the extrapolation.

PS When I read the post you refer to, I thought the poster’s reference to ego came from the impression that if you have decided you’re doing something reverent, you don’t care what is convenient for anyone else. You didn’t mean it that way, did you?
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Of course I wouldn’t knowingly get in people’s way or trip them up or anything. To an extent, any Catholic at church should and will make allowances for people bowing and genuflecting, it’s something that happens (or should happen) a lot.

Having said that, I don’t feel it’s my decision about reverencing the Chalice - I just don’t see anything in the GIRM that justifies any distinction between those who receive and don’t receive from the Chalice 🤷

Even if one who’s received the Host but doesn’t intend to receive from the Chalice is still ‘in procession’, well, so are those who are lining up to receive the Precious Blood, and THEY certainly aren’t exempt from making a reverence.
 
Dare I say it doesn’t really matter as it goes without saying, whatever practise anyone on this thread adopts at communion, no-one would, for an instant, wish to be irreverent to the presence of Christ and accordingly we’re now swimming in circles.

God bless

JTG’S
 
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