No Kneeling During Mass -- New Rule?

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jmcrae said:
Out here in the West we are all kneeling for the Consecration (all who can, that is).

Prior to Advent, each parish was doing its own thing; some were standing and others were kneeling. The Bishop has said that we are to kneel for the Consecration, and to stand until all have received Holy Communion. We also continue to stand after the Agnus Dei.

There is also to be a period of Great Silence after all have received Holy Communion, during which the people are encouraged (but not required) to kneel and pray for their personal intentions. There should be no music or talking during the Great Silence.
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Sacred Heart isn’t doing the Great Silence properly it seems we’re all still very confused. They told us to stand until the vessels were purified and then we’d have silence to pray afterwards in the beginning. For a few weeks now, some were standing, others kneeled and some sat directly after everyone had finished communing. The hymn though, never stops until father is finished… so I’m supposing our Cantor is confused too. I’m suspecting that I should actually kneel after everyone has finished rather than remain standing. I was wondering why the promised time for silent prayer had gone… our Cantor (as much as I like him) took it LOL!
Well from now on I’ll be kneeling everyone is finished.
How do I kindly write a respectful and polite note that the Cantor needs a reminder to finish singing as soon as communion is over?
 
TheMc said:
Um…no, actually, they should be kneeling at that time. The missal clearly states that they should be.
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Well take that up with the Bishop in the Mpls St Paul area if you believe you know more then him.
 
OraLabora said:
Any parish I’ve been to in Quebec kneels at the consecration, and I live here and visit different parishes frequently with our Gregorian schola.

Yes there was a small change in the French liturgy. After the reading of the OT and Epistle, we used to say “nous rendons gloire à Dieu” (“We give glory to God”), now we say “nous rendons grâce à Dieu” which is a more accurate translation of Deo Gratias.
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I agree with OraLabora. I’m from the Montreal area and since the change, I’ve attended three parishes, in two different dioceses that kneel during consecration. We also do the sign of the peace as well. I haven’t been to a French mass in a while so I’m not familiar with any changes in the language. That said, I haven’t witnessed that much of a difference between a mass in English or in French. The mass seems a bit more prettier in French especially regarding some of the chants. How do you feel OraLabora?
 
SecretGarden said:
I agree with OraLabora. I’m from the Montreal area and since the change, I’ve attended three parishes, in two different dioceses that kneel during consecration. We also do the sign of the peace as well. I haven’t been to a French mass in a while so I’m not familiar with any changes in the language. That said, I haven’t witnessed that much of a difference between a mass in English or in French. The mass seems a bit more prettier in French especially regarding some of the chants. How do you feel OraLabora?
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I was in a French parish for Midnight Mass in Orleans, Ontario. My beef when attending French Masses is that Novalis, in its ‘Prions en Eglise’, always puts in musical settings that alter the Ordinary of the Mass and the choir at that Mass certainly sang some of that. The massive overheads above the altar for the projection of the lyrics, and the pictures that were there when lyrics weren’t, were distracting, as was the gesticulating choir director behind the altar with the choir – as you can see in the picture. Imagine that massive screen swung forward and more prominent than the altar.

All that said, we knelt for the Consecration and the Sign of Peace was still exchanged (one of the things that I don’t miss the odd time that it’s omitted).
 
I can’t believe parishes are still using overheads - they are in breach of copyright, and have been banned for many years because they put the parish and diocese at risk of a lawsuit (not to mention they are liturgically incorrect).

Something to mention to any pesky choir director or parish liturgical comittee that insists on using them:thumbsup:
 
triumphguy said:
I can’t believe parishes are still using overheads - they are in breach of copyright, and have been banned for many years because they put the parish and diocese at risk of a lawsuit (not to mention they are liturgically incorrect).

Something to mention to any pesky choir director or parish liturgical comittee that insists on using them:thumbsup:
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I also can’t believe anyone uses them, because they’re very tacky.
 
triumphguy said:
I can’t believe parishes are still using overheads - they are in breach of copyright, and have been banned for many years because they put the parish and diocese at risk of a lawsuit (not to mention they are liturgically incorrect).

Something to mention to any pesky choir director or parish liturgical comittee that insists on using them:thumbsup:
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It wasn’t so much an overhead as a Power Point presentation that included lyrics and images for the times the choir wasn’t performing – they use those at every Mass I’ve attended in that parish. As much as I dislike it, they’re not illegal as long as they have a licence to show them and these included the licencing agreement.
 
grasscutter said:
They stopped doing the sign of peace?
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Yeah, they’ve omitted it for years now. I heard it was for the possible health risk.

What I was wondering about was the fact that there was no kneeling at all during the Mass (I did see people kneeling to pray after communion, though), and I thought this was odd, but if it’s allowed, then okay shrugs just thought it was weird.
 
Lokabrenna said:
What I was wondering about was the fact that there was no kneeling at all during the Mass (I did see people kneeling to pray after communion, though), and I thought this was odd, but if it’s allowed, then okay shrugs just thought it was weird.
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Don’t forget, it’s not allowed to omit the kneeling.
 
KenChute said:
Well take that up with the Bishop in the Mpls St Paul area if you believe you know more then him.
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I’ve heard he’s not the most personable guy. Might be better to talk to someone a step or two down the ladder 🙂

But it is very hit or miss on if a parish stands or kneels during various parts of the Mass. Seems like it’s the new, suburban parishes more than others that don’t kneel (in many cases cause there’s no kneelers to use).
 
pilots13 said:
I’ve heard he’s not the most personable guy. Might be better to talk to someone a step or two down the ladder 🙂

But it is very hit or miss on if a parish stands or kneels during various parts of the Mass. Seems like it’s the new, suburban parishes more than others that don’t kneel (in many cases cause there’s no kneelers to use).
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Well we have kneelers for both churches but the Priest stated that kneeling is optional very few do it, while other church all kneel as traditional protocol.
 
TheMc said:
That’s a pity. That’s a real pity.
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My perspective is that some Catholics churches are more progressive then others as in my kneeling example…I guess others can declare if that’s right or wrong
 
KenChute said:
My perspective is that some Catholics churches are more progressive then others as in my kneeling example…I guess others can declare if that’s right or wrong
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I’ll declare it for you. It’s wrong.
 
There is no opinion when it comes to kneeling. The only exceptions are for practical reasons (such as medical issues, or a Mass at a stadium, etc.). Since when is disobedience being “progressive”?
 
surritter said:
There is no opinion when it comes to kneeling. The only exceptions are for practical reasons (such as medical issues, or a Mass at a stadium, etc.). Since when is disobedience being “progressive”?
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Mis information.

Our RC church does not kneel.
 
KenChute said:
Mis information.

Our RC church does not kneel.
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So the book referred to in ‘by the book, no exception’ obviously isn’t the Roman Missal, which calls for kneeling at the Consecration unless unable to.
 
I went to Mass Christmas Day for the first time, I am in BC Canada and I didn’t like this at all… I felt standing was a distraction and prevented me from focusing on prayer… For those receiving the Eucharist, returning to your pew shouldn’t you be kneeling and reflecting and praying… rather than standing around until the last person goes up!

Just my thoughts… I don’t like it one bit…
 
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