No Muslims Allowed

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SuperLuigi said:
That it’s not as important as life and marriage issues in the voting booth.

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Kinda like how the same liberal voices go on racism patrol :onpatrol: or stampede ahead of CAIR to defend Islam, but then are silent or even take up positions against the Church when a Christian business refuses practicing homosexuals?
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Well, some people do their best to follow Church teachings and other people do their best to find a reason not to follow Church teachings.
 
oldcatholicguy said:
Well, some people do their best to follow Church teachings and other people do their best to find a reason not to follow Church teachings.
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There’s plenty of other places for a comment like that on here, and I’m wondering (well, ok, I know the reasons, but still) why it doesn’t show when issues the Church considers paramount are discussed on here.

Of course, it wouldn’t be :cool:, hip and in to say add that to a thread about contraception, religious freedom or so-called gay “marriage”.

It’s easy to say things like that in defense of Islam, because defending Islam is in, despite all of the terror whackos abusing the name of Muslims.

Not exactly a big chore or a noble sacrifice. :dts: :nope:
 
The woman was threatened, they had the Allahu Akbar ringtones, maybe they look suspicious to her, there are other customers and concerns when someone owns a shooting range.
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Well, that’s why I like the free market then. :yup:

But we can clearly see the left once again rolling up their sleeves defending Islam which is very, very easy to do in this PC era, indicate that Muslims are on the verge of second-class citizenship status and the only hope is for Washington DC to come on the white horse and save the day with magical powers of caring! :christmastree1:

All while many of them support politicians and even positions that discriminate against the consciences of Catholics. 🤷 :mad: :o 😦 :rolleyes:
 
SuperLuigi said:
There’s plenty of other places for a comment like that on here, and I’m wondering (well, ok, I know the reasons, but still) why it doesn’t show when issues the Church considers paramount are discussed on here.

Of course, it wouldn’t be :cool:, hip and in to say add that to a thread about contraception, religious freedom or so-called gay “marriage”.

It’s easy to say things like that in defense of Islam, because defending Islam is in, despite all of the terror whackos abusing the name of Muslims.

Not exactly a big chore or a noble sacrifice. :dts: :nope:
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Yeah, pointing out to my fellow Catholics what the Church actually teaches and what she expects them to follow regarding unjust discrimination is defending Islam. :rolleyes:

Funny how the only response I seem to get about what the Church actually teaches is either misdirection to another topic (like say gay marriage or abortion), whining about how its just a PC thing or a liberal conspiracy, of straight out “well they did it first”.
 
oldcatholicguy said:
Yeah, pointing out to my fellow Catholics what the Church actually teaches and what she expects them to follow regarding unjust discrimination is defending Islam. :rolleyes:

Funny how the only response I seem to get about what the Church actually teaches is either misdirection to another topic (like say gay marriage or abortion), whining about how its just a PC thing or a liberal conspiracy, of straight out “well they did it first”.
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I thought I heard the Holy Father condemn the acts of Terrorists.
 
Path_Finder said:
I thought I heard the Holy Father condemn the acts of Terrorists.
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And? Are you trying to imply that all Muslims are terrorists and/or somehow guilty of terrorism and therefor discriminating against Muslims because they are Muslim isn’t unjust? That’s the only way I can see your comment applying to my statement.
 
SuperLuigi said:
:rolleyes:

Getting the government involved isn’t the solution.
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…just like it wasn’t necessary for the government to get involved to enforce non-discrimination based on race? Do we really have to argue the whole civil rights issue from scratch? I thought most people agree today that if black person is denied the same service at a restaurant or on a public bus, that the government’s legal system is an appropriate remedy. If Catholics were denied use of public drinking fountains, wouldn’t you want recourse to the legal system to ensure equal treatment?
 
ringil said:
At a gun range a child would be more likely shoot someone or themselves if an accident accord.

So around here.

Discriminate against Protestants- Not OK
Discriminate against Catholics- Not OK
Discriminate against survivalists/militia members- Not OK
Discriminate against Jews- Not OK

Discriminate against Muslims- OK
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BG …sigh…
 
Radical Islam is a clear and present danger, they tell us they would like to destroy us. Radical Islam has conducted attacks on American soil.

This woman had engaged in conversation before with Muslims knowing the Koran better than they did, this could have been some sort of ongoing problem at her business.

Islam, as a government organization subjugates women, hangs gays, has a history of spreading itself through history at the point of a sword.

I think it’s a bit more complex than to assert she is discriminating against a faith. Does the Roman Catholic Church say not to discriminate against religions like the Aztecs had that practiced human sacrifice?
 
In Saudi Arabia, they behead people, they cut the hands off. Who does this? The religion? Or is the Government? A lot of our perceptions of Islam is on how it is governed and Sharia law.
 
LeafByNiggle said:
…just like it wasn’t necessary for the government to get involved to enforce non-discrimination based on race? Do we really have to argue the whole civil rights issue from scratch? I thought most people agree today that if black person is denied the same service at a restaurant or on a public bus, that the government’s legal system is an appropriate remedy. If Catholics were denied use of public drinking fountains, wouldn’t you want recourse to the legal system to ensure equal treatment?
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Now i caught you red-handed with that “equality” talk ive been speaking about here. There is no good reason to compare Catholicism to Islamism. None at all.

Can we please stop drawing these imaginary links that make no sense? All religions are not equal, and the Catholic Church does not teach that. Thats radicalism.
 
Path_Finder said:
Radical Islam is a clear and present danger, they tell us they would like to destroy us. Radical Islam has conducted attacks on American soil.

This woman had engaged in conversation before with Muslims knowing the Koran better than they did, this could have been some sort of ongoing problem at her business.

Islam, as a government organization subjugates women, hangs gays, has a history of spreading itself through history at the point of a sword.

I think it’s a bit more complex than to assert she is discriminating against a faith. Does the Roman Catholic Church say not to discriminate against religions like the Aztecs had that practiced human sacrifice?
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Actually, it’s not a bit more complex than her discriminating against a person due to their faith. The “No Muslims” sign should be a good indicator to any reasonable person that it’s all about them being Muslim. As for the Church’s teachings regarding a person who practices the pagan Aztec faith (that’s a new one. I was expecting a comparison to Nazis), yeah it would be unjust to discriminate against them just because they practiced the pagan Aztec faith. Yeah, even though said faith involves human sacrifice.

“Ohes noes, that means those mean old Aztecs can sacrifice people and I can’t object to it.” Actually it doesn’t. What it means is that one can’t treat a person of the Aztec faith with anything other than the full respect and dignity due a creation of God. “But, but…” Nope, no “buts,” the dignity and respect due a person has nothing to do with some aspect of that person- be it their faith, their color, their gender, age, health status, etc, etc, etc. Said dignity and respect is inherent. The Church’s teachings is very simple. Mass murderer, torture, rapist- yeah due the same amount of dignity and respect as [insert your favorite saint here].
 
oldcatholicguy said:
Actually, it’s not a bit more complex than her discriminating against a person due to their faith. The “No Muslims” sign should be a good indicator to any reasonable person that it’s all about them being Muslim. As for the Church’s teachings regarding a person who practices the pagan Aztec faith (that’s a new one. I was expecting a comparison to Nazis), yeah it would be unjust to discriminate against them just because they practiced the pagan Aztec faith. Yeah, even though said faith involves human sacrifice.

“Ohes noes, that means those mean old Aztecs can sacrifice people and I can’t object to it.” Actually it doesn’t. What it means is that one can’t treat a person of the Aztec faith with anything other than the full respect and dignity due a creation of God. “But, but…” Nope, no “buts,” the dignity and respect due a person has nothing to do with some aspect of that person- be it their faith, their color, their gender, age, health status, etc, etc, etc. Said dignity and respect is inherent. The Church’s teachings is very simple. Mass murderer, torture, rapist- yeah due the same amount of dignity and respect as [insert your favorite saint here].
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The Terrorists like Islamic State have told us they want to kill us.

In Saudi Arabia, an Islamic State, the government subjogates women, hangs gay, that is Islam, that’s government, hence, all of your quotes are not about discriminating against a government.

Respecting does NOT necessarily mean allowing people to discharge firearms on your property.
 
Path_Finder said:
The Terrorists like Islamic State have told us they want to kill us.

In Saudi Arabia, an Islamic State, the government subjogates women, hangs gay, that is Islam, that’s government, hence, all of your quotes are not about discriminating against a government.

Respecting does NOT necessarily mean allowing people to discharge firearms on your property.
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Respecting does necessarily mean not assuming that a person is guilty of something and or is a terrorist just because of their faith. Guess what this lady has done by putting up a “No Muslims” sign- yep, unjustly discriminated against a person based solely on their faith. Or are you trying to claim that all Muslims are extremists, terrorists, or in some other way guilty of something by just being Muslim?
 
oldcatholicguy said:
What does the Church teach about discriminating against a person based solely on that person’s faith?
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It doesn’t. Furthermore, what if one allowed someone to practice at their shooting range and came to find out the customers used their skills to kill Americans?? Now what? Are we so happy we were not fearful of them??
 
Path_Finder said:
It doesn’t. Furthermore, what if one allowed someone to practice at their shooting range and came to find out the customers used their skills to kill Americans?? Now what? Are we so happy we were not fearful of them??
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What does the Church teach about discriminating against a person based solely on that person’s faith?

I’ll even make it easier for you. You can start here- vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s1c2a3.htm
 
Path_Finder said:
Again, I’m not sure if she is discriminating, you can call it that. Sounds like she feels this is the safe thing to do.
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What does the Church teach about discriminating against a person based solely on that person’s faith?

It’s a very simple question that every Catholic on this thread should be able to answer, or at least know how to look up. I’ll provide the link to a very good starting point to discover the answer again- vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s1c2a3.htm
 
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