Non-beliefs on the unbelievable

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This might sound crazy, but being the good Irish blooded being Iam, I decided to look at how Ireland in general came to be. The results I found were pretty…interesting. Long story short, there were two groups called the Fir Bolg and Tuatha De Danann that inhabited the land before a group of spainards came. The two groups are described to be “magical” creatures and the Tuatha De Danann are said to have left Ireland, having been defeated, by entering mounds in the earth that transported them to the alternate universe of faerie (such as the mound at Newgrange, Ireland). Doing some more reasearch on the Tuatha De Danann, I found that apparently members of the world of faerie are apparently usually fearful of Catholic priests and prayers, because they supposedly fear the consequences of their sins. My first reactions were a set of questions:
  1. Are humans the only ones who can enter Heaven, Purgatory, of Hell?
  2. Is it possible for otherwordly creatures to exist. At first glance you may be skeptical (like I was), but why is it so hard to believe something could exist when we believe angels and other heavenly things exist.
Does the Catholic church have anything to say about other creatures or any details about Heaven?
 
Magical creatures are nothing more than fantasy.

At best, they are demons in disguise–even beautiful disguise.

Period.
 
nathan101 said:
Thankyou sir! You have just describe GOD in all his glory!

A FANTASY!
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I believe you have both misread the OP and left yourself on a logical precipice from which there is no return.

Many cultures have cultural ‘creation stories’ similar to the Tuatha De Dannan. For example, the Hopi Indians believe that they came here from beneath the earth. These should be seen as what they are: Pre-Christian attempts to explain the nature of the world. If you look at later Irish beliefs along with those of the Scottish, English and Welsh you find stories of ‘druids’ who sacrificed to “god’” by offering blood to a tree. This is not far from the Truth of God being sacrificed and spilling blood upon a tree (the cross)

As far the logical missteps you ran jumping into, if you read the OP carefully then you see he is asking about other ‘creatures’ God is no creature. God is spirit.
 
THere are a number of possibilities with such legends.

In some cases, the people that are being told about in the legends were indeed people who lived on the land before some other group arrived. In England/Scotland (and perhaps Ireland, I don’t know) there were indeed smallish people who lived in mound houses, who were very shy - they didn’t engage directly with the newcomers, withdrawing to less populated areas, and seemed to eventually disappear. So that kind of thing is one possibility.

As well, it is possible that demonic activity could be related to some such legends.

As well, life was very tenuous in earlier times, and this seems to breed superstition, especially when people are not that well educated. Many people never traveled far from their homes. Seeing signs, taking coincidence, or even real relationships between events, and attributing more significance to them than there is is very common. The human brain seems “programed” to look for such connections, but it can be easy to make mistakes about them. Most of us have dome it on occasion.

But your main question - could there be other beings in Heaven? Creatures from another dimension, or aliens from another planet, or whatever? Well, sure there could be. We don’t know everything about creation or God, and he hasn’t said that he has told us everything - just the things WE need to know. Personally, if I met aliens in Heaven, I wouldn’t be surprised. If I met fairies in Heaven, I would be surprised, but it wouldn’t worry me (not that one worries in Heaven).

Stories about faeries are often a bit odd- it isn’t clear if they are moral beings in the way we are. If there were fairies, their place in creation, to my mind, would be unclear.

In any case, I don’t think it is something people should spend time on, worrying about or trying to prove that there are or are not faeries, unless your job is in teaching folklore or something.
 
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In some cases, the people that are being told about in the legends were indeed people who lived on the land before some other group arrived. In England/Scotland (and perhaps Ireland, I don’t know) there were indeed smallish people who lived in mound houses, who were very shy - they didn’t engage directly with the newcomers, withdrawing to less populated areas, and seemed to eventually disappear. So that kind of thing is one possibility. . . .
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I think they are called Picts. I think keeping out of sight had a strong element of self preservation.
 
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