Non-catholic Christian husband takes Catholic communion- Seeing help, guidance and prayers, no unconstructive criticism please

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BlackFriar said:
Interesting second quote. Where is it from?
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Zenit Daily Dispatch; a Catholic news agency in Rome that covers the Holy See.

It pertains to the question of culpability for grave and mortal sins. WE would, presumably, be rather culpable for them.

Her non-Catholic husband whose childhood Church of Christ hang-ups prevent him from coming to the Church? Not so much.
 
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Why even go to Confession then? If there’s no difference then why bother even being Catholic? If anyone can receive the Eucharist why even be Christian?

This radical invidualism makes everything irrelevant. Nothing really matters, there is no right or wrong, everyone just do what everyone wants.
 
Spyridon said:
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Why even go to Confession then?
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Because we are bound to the sacraments. God is not.
This radical invidualism makes everything irrelevant. Nothing really matters, there is no right or wrong, everyone just do what everyone wants.
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It’s not “radical individualism”. It’s realizing that I am bound. God is not.
 
Who cares though?

I mean if desecrating the Eucharist is no big deal, why care about anything at all? Obviously sin is no big deal.
 
Spyridon said:
Who cares though?

I mean if desecrating the Eucharist is no big deal, why care about anything at all? Obviously sin is no big deal.
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Who said “desecrating the Eucharist is no big deal”? It super-duper IS.

I just have no idea if that’s what he’s doing.

Now if he walked in and said “MWA HAHAHA! I love Satan and hate the Lord! I shall make a mockery of the bread and cup! MWA HAHAHA!”

Yeah, I’d probably try to stop the guy. But if his conscience is leading him to communion in good faith, I am not in a position to stop him.
 
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@Blesse, definitely make sure your position is known, definitely speak to your pastor. You cannot be silent (sin of omission) but it’s also not entirely your responsibility. The following is from the Catechism of the Catholic Church which trumps any and all opinions others and myself may post:
1400 Ecclesial communities derived from the Reformation and separated from the Catholic Church, “have not preserved the proper reality of the Eucharistic mystery in its fullness, especially because of the absence of the sacrament of Holy Orders.” It is for this reason that, for the Catholic Church, Eucharistic intercommunion with these communities is not possible. However these ecclesial communities, “when they commemorate the Lord’s death and resurrection in the Holy Supper . . . profess that it signifies life in communion with Christ and await his coming in glory.”

1401 When, in the Ordinary’s judgment, a grave necessity arises, Catholic ministers may give the sacraments of Eucharist, Penance, and Anointing of the Sick to other Christians not in full communion with the Catholic Church, who ask for them of their own will, provided they give evidence of holding the Catholic faith regarding these sacraments and possess the required dispositions.
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I dunno, I went to church every Sunday with my Mom, Dad, and Sister, while my Gramps stayed in pew. This was early 60’s. He had divorced and remarried. I never saw him receive even tho he was Catholic. It didnt affect me.
The immediate “crisis” and it is a crisis, is the two parents.
I’ve checked since I posted, if you go to confession and do not confess what you “fail to do, knowingly…;” your confession nay not be valid.
At the peril of your relationship with God and your husband, your’e choice, although painful, is clear.
On a secondary note: as Confirmed Catholics, we have a duty to defend the Church.
As stated above, the Lord may be ysing you as a mouthpiece. Pray Pray Pray

And we will pray with you.
 
I would say it’s radical individualism to invent an extreme form of Catholic “teaching”, call it infallible and then find oneself unable to meet the inevitable challenges to back up the rhetoric from Catholics more stable and better educated than yourself.

But I am willing to be corrected if you can find Popes who clearly states all Protestants are without grace, their baptism is invalid and therefore their Communion sacrilegious…
 
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Spyridon said:
Hes not graced, she clearly says he does not go to Confession.
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Jesuit casuistry at its finest.

Now give us the infallible Papal statements that this means all baptised Protestants are in personal mortal sin and without sanctifying grace… if your conclusion was correct it should be easy to find one.

On the otherhand we do have Magisterial docs that state that God can be known to forgive Catholics of mortal sin even before actual Confession … how much more so for Protestants who are sincerely unaware of the need for Confession to a Catholic Priest?

Hence my original advice above to the poster: if her husband is conscious of grave personal sin he needs to be encouraged to go to Confession before receiving or his receiving could be unworthy.
If he wants to receive he really needs to follow the same admission rules as his wife and other Catholics.
 
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ChunkMonk said:
Protestants are, by definition, without grace.
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Do you reject the teaching of Vatican II as well?

Do you also reject Protestant baptism as valid, which if it is like ours, remits original sin and applies sanctifying grace at one and the same time?

Do you further believe it is not possible for significant numbers of both Catholic and Protestant baptised to retain the purity of their Baptismal innocence until death without committing further mortal sin?
 
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Do you have the link.
I am trying to find which commentary the 2nd quote derives from?
 
Spyridon said:
Why even go to Confession then?
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It’s a Divine aid to make contrition before God more easy, more accessible and deeper.
For those in agreement with this it would be sinful to avoid the Sacrament when conscious of grave personal sin.

Did you think Confession is mechanical magic limiting Divine forgiveness to the elect and so true contrition is only possible for Truebloods and not Muggles 🙂
 
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BlackFriar said:
if her husband is conscious of grave personal sin he needs to be encouraged to go to Confession before receiving or his receiving could be unworthy.
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His receiving is unworthy because he is not Catholic:
Can. 844 §1 Catholic ministers may lawfully administer the sacraments only to catholic members of Christ’s faithful, who equally may lawfully receive them only from catholic ministers, except as provided in §§2, 3 and 4 of this canon and in can. 861 §2.
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Going to Confession or being in a state of grace is not the only issue here.
 
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Communion is a sign of our oneness. It’s a sign of unity. The OP’s husband is clearly NOT in union with the Church. So why is he taking a sign of unity? If he BELIEVES so strongly in the Real Presence, why does he not take that step towards full unity that is becoming a Catholic?
 
Oh wow. That’s not even something I will hear blurted out on a Vortex…
 
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When you answer my clear and simple questions the answer to this will become clear…
 
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