Non Catholic marriage help plz

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This Easter I’m joining the chathlic faith but I have not had a church wedding but had the law of the land wedding , sorry cant spell proper name( registra )mentioned it to Dean and he said I need to make appointment I’m happy married with 2 children for 24 year’s now ps me and the wife have been baptised
 
We’re both baptised protestant and mine has been valed this our first marriage and thanks for helping
 
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hopeful3542 said:
There is no need for the marriage of two non-Catholics to be convalidated. Convalidation means that a valid marriage did not exist before.
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No. It means the marriage wasn’t sacramental. There is a difference between a valid marriage and a sacramental marriage: they’re not the same thing.

OP, please speak to a priest about this, you’re going to get conflicting answers on here.
 
hopeful3542 said:
Both the OP and his wife are baptized Protestants. The Church considers marriages between two baptized people as Sacramental.
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I was correcting you on your definition of convalidation. I wasn’t questioning whether or not their marriage was sacramental.
 
hopeful3542 said:
A convalidation is a new exchange of matrimonial consent between two people who are not already in what the Church considers a valid marriage.
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If they’re not married, then there is no sense in re-exchanging vows considering the Church considers them to have never existed: there can’t be marital vows if there is no marriage. If they’re not married, then they get married, and at that point their marriage becomes both sacramental and valid.

““Convalidation” comes from two Latin words and means that a couple is getting married “with validity.” A convalidation celebrated by two baptized Christians is a celebration of the sacrament of marriage, one of the Church’s seven sacraments, all of which are gifts given to us by Jesus Christ so that we can share in God’s life and grow closer to Him. The only difference from any other sacramental marriage is the circumstance under which this marriage is being celebrated, i.e., after a civil marriage ceremony has already taken place.”
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Fauken said:
No. It means the marriage wasn’t sacramental.
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This is not accurate.

A simple convalidation is the exchange of consent in Catholic form. Radical sanation is convalidation back to the original consent. It makes an invalid marriage valid.
Fauken said:
There is a difference between a valid marriage and a sacramental marriage: they’re not the same thing.
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A valid marriage can be either a sacrament or a natural marriage based on whether both parties are baptized.

The sacramental nature of a valid marriage is a product of baptismal status of both parties.

A convalidation makes an invalid marriage valid. Baptism of both parties makes a valid marriage a sacrament.
 
1ke said:
A valid marriage can be either a sacrament or a natural marriage based on whether both parties are baptized.
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I’m not questioning that.
1ke said:
A convalidation makes an invalid marriage valid. Baptism of both parties makes a valid marriage a sacrament.
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That does not make sense. If their marriage was invalid, then they’re not being convalidated at a convalidation, they’re getting married. There is no point in calling it then a convalidation.
hopeful3542 said:
A convalidation is necessary when for example a Catholic marries outside of the Church (lack of form).
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Agreed.
 
Fauken said:
If their marriage was invalid, then they’re not being convalidated
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Yes, they are.

Either through new exchange of consent (simple convalidation) or a retroactive convalidating of the original consent (radical sanation).

CHAPTER X.

THE CONVALIDATION OF MARRIAGE

Art. 1.

SIMPLE CONVALIDATION

Can. 1156 §1. To convalidate a marriage which is invalid because of a diriment impediment, it is required that the impediment ceases or is dispensed and that at least the party conscious of the impediment renews consent.

Can. 1159 §1. A marriage which is invalid because of a defect of consent is convalidated if the party who did not consent now consents, provided that the consent given by the other party

Can. 1160 A marriage which is null because of defect of form must be contracted anew in canonical form in order to become valid, without prejudice to the prescript of can. 1127, §2.

Art. 2.

RADICAL SANATION

Can. 1161 §1. The radical sanation of an invalid marriage is its convalidation without the renewal of consent, which is granted by competent authority and entails the dispensation from an impediment, if there is one, and from canonical form, if it was not observed, and the retroactivity of canonical effects.
 
The canons are calling it a marriage. If there is no marriage, why is it being called a marriage? They’re not married.
 
Fauken said:
The canons are calling it a marriage. If there is no marriage, why is it being called a marriage? They’re not married.
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The canons call it an invalid marriage.

Convalidation creates a valid marriage where there was an invalid marriage. It’s literally what the word “convalidate” means. Con-validate. With-validity. Make-valid.
 
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There are perfectly valid and Sacramental marriages entered by non Catholics every day.

A convalidation literally is to make valid. A marriage cannot be Sacramental if it is not valid, however many valid marriages are not Sacramental.

This, first marriage by two baptized non Catholic Christians is presumed both valid and Sacramental
 
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I was wrong.
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