NON CATHOLICS - Have the these forums helped you convert or consider converting?

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Unfinished:
You do know that there are morally sound people who don’t succumb to satan just buy putting five dollars in a slot machine, right?

You are aware there are people who can protect thier souls by not allowing thier eyes to see immoral things?

I am reminded of the time Father Corapi went into a crack house to save someone’s life. Just cause he went in there doesn’t mean he became a crack head.
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He didn’t go into a crack house for entertainment.
 
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Alfie:
I don’t own Enron stock. You do know that there are ways people can research stock before they buy any in order to see which ones have the best chance of earning money? Can you do that with a slot machine or do you use ESP?
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Yes, no doubt all research tools for stocks are legitimate and no company every hides information :rolleyes:

There is information out there on payback on slot machines, should you choose to play slots.

Rather than preach your man-made doctrine and wrap yourself up in the irrational blanket of emotionalism, why not take a step back and answer some of the questions posed to you earlier in this thread. For example, people are still waiting for the doctrine that drinking is a sin.
 
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Alfie:
He didn’t go into a crack house for entertainment.
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Who’s to say I won’t be able to witness to someone walking into a whore house? Even Jesus ate with sinners.
 
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jim1130:
Yes, no doubt all research tools for stocks are legitimate and no company every hides information :rolleyes:

There is information out there on payback on slot machines, should you choose to play slots.

Rather than preach your man-made doctrine and wrap yourself up in the irrational blanket of emotionalism, why not take a step back and answer some of the questions posed to you earlier in this thread. For example, people are still waiting for the doctrine that drinking is a sin.
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Why don’t you just admit you are wrong and we will call it quits?
 
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Alfie:
I enjoy classical and all kinds of music, opera, white water rafting, museums, art shows, craft shows, Buell Planetarium, golf, tennis, camping, etc. There are hundreds of other nice, moral things I can do. I am not living in a straight jacket by any means.

PS. Someday I would like to parachute out of a plane.
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Then please do not pass judgement on those who do not subscribe to interests similar to yours.
 
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Alfie:
Why don’t you just admit you are wrong and we will call it quits?
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Because you have provided NO EVIDENCE from the SCRIPTURES that drinking or gambling are wrong. NONE NADA NOTHING.

You might want to check your pride and show some proof.
 
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Alfie:
I don’t own Enron stock. You do know that there are ways people can research stock before they buy any in order to see which ones have the best chance of earning money? Can you do that with a slot machine or do you use ESP?
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Actually, you kinda can. The machines are programmed to give out X number of dollars over a set time period, which just so happens to be fewer dollars than they take in. Vegas is all about slightly favored odds for the house. With one game, it’s not that big a deal, but with hundreds of thousands of them, the odds make the house very rich.

Anyways, the way to work the machines is to find one (research :)) that has been played a lot but has not given a lot over a good period of time. A machine like that is ripe for a jackpot.

At least that is my understanding of it.

I tend not to gamble because I know I’m not smarter or more skilled than the people (or machines) I’m playing against. :o

But, really, this has gotten way off the original topic. If you want to discuss the morality of gambling and drinking, start a new thread.

Peace,
javelin
 
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Alfie:
Oh come on! Just say the word “UNCLE”. Then we can end this disscussion.
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What is he wrong about? That drinking and gambling are morally evil? You have not proven that AT ALL. In fact, you have offered NO EVIDENCE AT ALL.

Peace,
javelin
 
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Alfie:
I enjoy classical and all kinds of music, opera, white water rafting, museums, art shows, craft shows, Buell Planetarium, golf, tennis, camping, etc. There are hundreds of other nice, moral things I can do. I am not living in a straight jacket by any means.

PS. Someday I would like to parachute out of a plane.
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You could use a dose of humility since your image of self is quite immodest:

Luke 18
10. Two men went up into the temple to pray: the one a Pharisee and the other a publican.
11. The Pharisee standing, prayed thus with himself: O God, I give thee thanks that I am not as the rest of men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, as also is this publican.
12. I fast twice in a week: I give tithes of all that I possess.
13. And the publican, standing afar off, would not so much as lift up his eyes towards heaven; but struck his breast, saying: O God, be merciful to me a sinner.
14. I say to you, this man went down into his house justified rather than the other: because every one that exalteth himself shall be humbled: and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
 
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Alfie:
Oh come on! Just say the word “UNCLE”. Then we can end this disscussion.
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You have been rude to other posters and made strong allegations that you have NEVER supported with documentation or evidence. This is a game for you, to antagonize Catholics and incur their wrath so you can promote yourself as some martyr or persecuted being. How often have people presented strong evidence to you only to have you whimsically dismiss it with nothing more than a flippant opinion absent of evidence? You are not here to understand Catholicism nor are you hear to discuss your theologicval position. Instead, you merely pass your personal opinions as judgements then attempt to elevate yourself with santimonious rhetoric that presupposes all of us are weak and pale in comparison to your magnificence.
 
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Unfinished:
Who’s to say I won’t be able to witness to someone walking into a whore house? Even Jesus ate with sinners.
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So that is why you are going to Vegas? As a missionary? Well I apologize.
 
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jim1130:
You have been rude to other posters and made strong allegations that you have NEVER supported with documentation or evidence. This is a game for you, to antagonize Catholics and incur their wrath so you can promote yourself as some martyr or persecuted being. How often have people presented strong evidence to you only to have you whimsically dismiss it with nothing more than a flippant opinion absent of evidence? You are not here to understand Catholicism nor are you hear to discuss your theologicval position. Instead, you merely pass your personal opinions as judgements then attempt to elevate yourself with santimonious rhetoric that presupposes all of us are weak and pale in comparison to your magnificence.
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I don’t support state lotteries either.
 
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Alfie:
I don’t support state lotteries either.
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And you don’t offer honest answers to unBiblical remarks that you make in a forum either.
SHOW ME that the Word of God says that drinking is wrong or apologize with some humility.

If you can’t do that then just what kinda “witness” are you?
 
Church Militant said:
Another cheapshot!

Just because one chooses to gamble from time to time in no way equates to being like the men who (fulfilled messianic prophecy) gambled for Our Lord’s clothing at the foot of the cross.

You dodge the whole scriptural issue by not even attempting to show us that ther is any Biblical injunction against these things.what’s the matter Alfie? Did you assert something else that isn’t taught in the Word of God?

I’m confused :confused: I thought you were a “Bible Christian” that takes everything from the Word of God and would never teach anything that wasn’t in there.

As you said the other day. “splain yourself”?
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Jesus threw the money changers out of the temple. Wasn’t that gambling? Do you think bingo is proper in a church? What about Bill Bennet gambling over one million dollars in one night? He claims to be a devote Catholic. Is that morally OK?
 
Church Militant:
Assumptions are always unwise…

You assume they will partake in some immoral activity and that the money they spend will go to immoral ends. Do you KNOW that?

No! You cannot! Therefore you have judged a fellow believer unjustly and I rebuke you for it, as per Matthew 18.

You supposedly love us Catholics…
1st Corinthians 13
Code: 
1: If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.
2: And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.
3: If I give away all I have, and if I deliver my body to be burned, but have not love, I gain nothing.
4: Love is patient and kind; love is not jealous or boastful;
5: it is not arrogant or rude. Love does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful;
6: it does not rejoice at wrong, but rejoices in the right.
7: Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
8: Love never ends; as for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away.
9: For our knowledge is imperfect and our prophecy is imperfect;
10: but when the perfect comes, the imperfect will pass away.
11: When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child; when I became a man, I gave up childish ways.
12: For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall understand fully, even as I have been fully understood.
13: So faith, hope, love abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love
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When I first began posting on this forum someone sent a complaint to the MODS about me. Wasn’t that you?
 
No, Alfie, the money changers were NOT gambling. The money changers were there because the temple priests and underlings were selling things like turtledoves and pigeons that people needed to have for sacrifices (read Luke 2).

I’ve urged you BEFORE to get a good concordance . . .
 
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Alfie:
When I first began posting on this forum someone sent a complaint to the MODS about me. Wasn’t that you?
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And after the posts you have made on this thread alone I can see why someone would have complained in the past.
 
Tantum ergo:
No, Alfie, the money changers were NOT gambling. The money changers were there because the temple priests and underlings were selling things like turtledoves and pigeons that people needed to have for sacrifices (read Luke 2).

I’ve urged you BEFORE to get a good concordance . . .
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Wouldn’t they be more like investment bankers today working the currency market?
 
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