Non-Catholics taking Communion?

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I know several Protestants who receive whenever they are in a Catholic Church. Once, I did see a priest ask a woman I knew (she was visiting) if she was Catholic (she was), because she seemed a lttle confused…She was so embarrassed…
 
I think it’s more than our duty to tell people what the rules are. Protestants who take Catholic communion tend to be serving their own egos first. They must think of it as a “right.” They’re more than welcome to receive the Host, but only after becoming Catholic. That’s just the rules. Is it so much to expect people not to so radically disrespect us and our faith, not to mention God?
 
My wife is Catholic and I am not (yet), and I was told the first time I attended mass with her that I was not allowed to take communion because it was only for members of the Catholic Church. It seemed reasonable enough to me, so I always stay in my seat when she went up.

I have been to a Mass or two where the Priest would offer a blessing to anyone who does not/cannot receive communion. I always thought that was a nice way to include others in the ceremony.
 
It looks like folks here aren’t going for the bar code tatoo. There’s another option. I was at a (Catholic) wedding once, and when it came time for Communion, they told us non-Catholics to leave. Of course, the reception didn’t start until the Mass was over, so we all sat around twiddling our thumbs.
 
It looks like folks here aren’t going for the bar code tatoo. There’s another option. I was at a (Catholic) wedding once, and when it came time for Communion, they told us non-Catholics to leave. Of course, the reception didn’t start until the Mass was over, so we all sat around twiddling our thumbs.
Sincerely sorry to hear that. I hope they had an open bar…

The bar code idea had me thinking for a bit, but I decided to go for civil rights and liberties. In this day and age with lots of church-shoppers about, I think all Catholic churches should give a brief explanation/invitation to non-Catholics before Communion. Welcome them up for a blessing, (though it would probably seem like hocus-pocus to them), but let them know the rules. That way they might think twice if they had an informed conscience…
 
As a LCMS Lutheran, I would not and have not taken communion at a RCC or another church were I was not in full agreement with the basic tenets of that church. To do otherwise is to say that the differences don’t matter.

What worries me is that “open” communion is becomeing more popular and widespread. I was raised in a church where you didn’t get communion till the 8th grade, and only after 4-5 years of instruction.
 
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montanaman:
Sincerely sorry to hear that. I hope they had an open bar…
Montana- actually, the story gets sadder. There was no booze at all at the reception. CATHOLIC reception.
 
That’s obscene, and I’ll have to check the Catechism, but I think it might be sinful, too.

Not to threadjack my own thread here, but I was the best man at my Baptist buddy’s wedding. It was totally dry. I don’t publicly speak well without a few in me, so the toast didn’t go well…
 
You should be aware of a big secret that many Anglican and Episcopal clergy take communion at Roman Catholic churches when travelling and one of our own churches is unavailable -like in South America. They also direct us parishioners there too!

Everyone is apparently only concerned about keeping us from sinning - but that is only if we receive unworthily (while we are in sin - this has nothing to do with whether we are in full communion with the Pope, etc.). If I am correct one must only believe the Eucharist is the True Body and Blood in order to receive communion. I agree with you that the Eucharist is the most important part of our Christianity - so I don’t find a prayer service a suitable substitute - that’s why I seek out a Catholic Mass.

Yes - for a female Episcopal priest to wear her collar would be scandalous (to Roman Catholics) - that’s why she doesn’t wear it to a RC church

Trying to exclude fellow Christians that believe is not loving. In my 50 years experience as a cradle Catholic - If you excluded all those Catholics that do not believe what the RC Church teaches - the pews would be a lot emptier.
 
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montanaman:
I have no first-hand proof that this is taking place, but it seems not only plausible, but highly likely.
It happens all the time. At the mass when I joined the Church by profession of faith, our priest invited everyone who was baptized, Catholic or not, to receive the Eucharist. So all the Protestant relatives who were obviously really unsure about whether they should be in a Catholic church, trooped up there for the Eucharist. It bothered me, to see people who had been snickering quietly to each other during the mass get up and receive Jesus, when they did not believe in the Real Presence at all. My mom and sister didn’t, since I informed them ahead of time about it. (They are now Catholic by the way!) Then at Easter Vigil I had to politely tell my grandma beforehand that she cannot receive. I wish that the priests would do more to enforce the rules, let alone inviting non-Catholics to break them. :rolleyes:
 
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Anglo-catholic:
You should be aware of a big secret that many Anglican and Episcopal clergy take communion at Roman Catholic churches when travelling and one of our own churches is unavailable -like in South America. They also direct us parishioners there too!

Everyone is apparently only concerned about keeping us from sinning - but that is only if we receive unworthily (while we are in sin - this has nothing to do with whether we are in full communion with the Pope, etc.). If I am correct one must only believe the Eucharist is the True Body and Blood in order to receive communion. I agree with you that the Eucharist is the most important part of our Christianity - so I don’t find a prayer service a suitable substitute - that’s why I seek out a Catholic Mass.

Yes - for a female Episcopal priest to wear her collar would be scandalous (to Roman Catholics) - that’s why she doesn’t wear it to a RC church

Trying to exclude fellow Christians that believe is not loving. In my 50 years experience as a cradle Catholic - If you excluded all those Catholics that do not believe what the RC Church teaches - the pews would be a lot emptier.
Anglo-Catholic- I’ve heard a few Episcopal lay people say that they take communion on the sly in RC parishes, but I’ve never heard a priest suggest that they do such a thing. And if I did, I’d be inclined to smack him/her for sheer hypocrisy. Sure, the sacraments are God’s, but the churches make the calls about how they are administered, and that goes for the ECUSA as well as the RCC. For example, communion in the ECUSA still isn’t totally open- one is required to be a baptized Christian, tho some priests don’t follow this rule. Also, I’m pretty sure that up 'till the not too distant past (maybe about the time the last BCP came out), one was supposed to be a confirmed Episcopalian or member of a Church in communion with them. Now personally, I don’t much care to attend a meal where I’m not invited to eat, so in general I avoid RC Masses, but if I get stuck, I reckon I can kneel reverently in Christ’s presence. Meditate on this Exortation from the BCP (which, unfortunatly, is seldom read during Masses anymore), and it won’t be so hard to pass up the Eucharist on occasion. Of course, just for fun, you can always shout out “not worthy” at the appropriate time of the Euch prayer.
 
  • An Exhortation (from the 1979 BCP, p 316)
This Exhortation may be used, in whole or in part, either during the
Liturgy or at other times. In the absence of a deacon or priest, this
Exhortation may be read by a lay person. The people stand or sit.

Beloved in the Lord: Our Savior Christ, on the night before
he suffered, instituted the Sacrament of his Body and
Blood as a sign and pledge of his love, for the continual
remembrance of the sacrifice of his death, and for a spiritual
sharing in his risen life. For in these holy Mysteries we are
made one with Christ, and Christ with us; we are made one
body in him, and members one of another.

Having in mind, therefore, his great love for us, and in
obedience to his command, his Church renders to Almighty
God our heavenly Father neverending thanks for the
creation of the world, for his continual providence over us,
for his love for all mankind, and for the redemption of the
world by our Savior Christ, who took upon himself our flesh,
and humbled himself even to death on the cross, that he
might make us the children of God by the power of the Holy
Spirit, and exalt us to everlasting life.

But if we are to share rightly in the celebration of those holy
Mysteries, and be nourished by that spiritual Food, we must remember the dignity of that holy Sacrament. I therefore call
upon you to consider how Saint Paul exhorts all persons to
prepare themselves carefully before eating of that Bread and
drinking of that Cup.

For, as the benefit is great, if with penitent hearts and living
faith we receive the holy Sacrament, so is the danger great, if
we receive it improperly, not recognizing the Lord’s Body.
Judge yourselves, therefore, lest you be judged by the Lord.

Examine your lives and conduct by the rule of God’s
commandments, that you may perceive wherein you have
offended in what you have done or left undone, whether in
thought, word, or deed. And acknowledge your sins before
Almighty God, with full purpose of amendment of life, being
ready to make restitution for all injuries and wrongs done by
you to others; and also being ready to forgive those who have
offended you, in order that you yourselves may be forgiven.
And then, being reconciled with one another, come to the
banquet of that most heavenly Food.

And if, in your preparation, you need help and counsel, then
go and open your grief to a discreet and understanding priest,
and confess your sins, that you may receive the benefit of
absolution, and spiritual counsel and advice; to the removal
of scruple and doubt, the assurance of pardon, and the
strengthening of your faith.

To Christ our Lord who loves us, and washed us in his own
blood, and made us a kingdom of priests to serve his God
and Father, to him be glory in the Church evermore. Through
him let us offer continually the sacrifice of praise, which is
our bounden duty and service, and, with faith in him, come
boldly before the throne of grace [and humbly confess our
sins to Almighty God].*
 
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Anglo-catholic:
Trying to exclude fellow Christians that believe is not loving. In my 50 years experience as a cradle Catholic - If you excluded all those Catholics that do not believe what the RC Church teaches - the pews would be a lot emptier.
Ouch! Unfortunately, the Catholic Church is not quite as united as some might tend to believe. Personally, I’m surprised at the lack of joy that I see in those who have received communion. A huge majority seem to be almost depressed while looking to return to their pews.

As to non-Catholics taking communion - NOT in the Catholic Church!
 
<<<Of course, just for fun, you can always shout out “not worthy” at the appropriate time of the Euch prayer.>>>

**Humbly, of course 🙂 **
 
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Anglo-catholic:
You should be aware of a big secret that many Anglican and Episcopal clergy take communion at Roman Catholic churches when travelling and one of our own churches is unavailable -like in South America. They also direct us parishioners there too!

Everyone is apparently only concerned about keeping us from sinning - but that is only if we receive unworthily (while we are in sin - this has nothing to do with whether we are in full communion with the Pope, etc.). If I am correct one must only believe the Eucharist is the True Body and Blood in order to receive communion. I agree with you that the Eucharist is the most important part of our Christianity - so I don’t find a prayer service a suitable substitute - that’s why I seek out a Catholic Mass.

Yes - for a female Episcopal priest to wear her collar would be scandalous (to Roman Catholics) - that’s why she doesn’t wear it to a RC church

Trying to exclude fellow Christians that believe is not loving. In my 50 years experience as a cradle Catholic - If you excluded all those Catholics that do not believe what the RC Church teaches - the pews would be a lot emptier.
How can a person even consider receiving communion in a church in which they are not in communion with. Even if you believe in the real presence in our churches, why would you mock God when you profess to believe in him. Your behavior is not loving to us or respectful of our beliefs.

As far as excluding people from our churches, we would never do such a thing. Everyone is welcome. When I was a child growing up everyone respected everyone and Catholics were more aware of their sinfulness.

When they hadn’t received Confession for a long period of time or felt they may have serious sin on their souls they remained in their pews. Catholics that do not believe what the RC Church teaches should remain in their pews and beseech the Lord to enlighted their hearts as to the truth.

The unfortunate problem here isn’t what the Church teaches, the problem is that we don’t want to hear what the Church teaches. We want to do our own thing and if we listened to the truth we would have to change our lives.

There have been many martyrs in the Church who have died so the Eucharist would not be sacrileged. There have been Eucharistic miracles all over the world which God has allowed to happen to show us his true presence.

I beseech all of you who are not Catholic even if you do not have one of your churches nearby not to receive the sacrament of the Eucharist unless you become in communion with us. Do not offend the Lord who is already so offended.

You are welcome to worship with us and we pray for your union, but be respectful and loving to us as well.

If you obviously know it would be scandalous to wear your collar in our churches then you also know in your heart that it is scandalous for you to receive communion there. Your conscience should convict you of that truth.

God bless.
 
Let’s see… I’m a Catholic convert of some 20 years standing now (I was brought up an Episcopalian).

Before I converted, I received communion in many Catholic Churches – in many cases, with the full knowledge and acceptance (and indeed invitation) of the celebrating priest. I had a long talk with a French Benedictine monk about it once, and he told me that his community had no problem with Anglicans in particular, and with anyone else who felt comfortable taking communion with them (perhaps unsurprisingly, I spent a certain amount of time in this particular monastery as a novice).

After I converted, I continued (and still continue) to receive communion when I visit Anglican churches. I have also received communion in Greek Orthodox churches, with great reverence.

I know many others who do likewise (in both senses). I have a friend, an Episcopalian, who spent many years as a sister in a Catholic congregation – and I know Catholic and Orthodox men who have spent many years as monks in a Protestant brotherhood. Have you ever heard of Taizé?

Now, I have to admit that my relatively radical ecumenism (by youse guys’ standards) has been effectively limited to the Anglicans – mostly because I can’t bear the liturgy anywhere else. But I do believe that such ecumenism is important, valid, and blessed by God.

Naprous
 
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mean_owen:
I’m hesitant to suggest this, because I haven’t submitted the patent yet, but anywho I have an idea about how to deal with the problem of non-Catholics taking communion:

put a bar code tatoo put on one’s forehead at confirmation and place a scanner at the front of the church. That way if a Protestant tries to take communion in a Catholic parish, some cool alarms would go off and the bouncers would come out and escort the perps off the property. The Orthodox could do the same thing to keep Catholics (as well as Prots) from defiling their sacrament, etc. I’m not sure how to deal with renegades. Maybe the tatoo could be temporary and be renewed after you tithe each week. (I guess an ID chip like they use on dogs could work too, but the tatoo really shows that you’re marked for Christ).

Whaddya think?
Lev 19:28 “Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD.” :tsktsk:
You have a tattoo? You’ll fry in hell! 😛
 
Dear Elgom:

How can a person even consider receiving communion in a church in which they are not in communion with. Even if you believe in the real presence in our churches, why would you mock God when you profess to believe in him. Your behavior is not loving to us or respectful of our beliefs.

Sorry if I offended you - but if you look at your quote you have identified the RCC rules with God - I certainly don’t mock God by wishing to receive Him. The Eucharist is the greatest Truth that the RCC has to offer and draw other Christians to it.

If you think I mock the RCC - you should consider how the excluded feel. I recognize the RC Church’s God given power to provide the Eucharist - (which is not recipricated).

Remember that Christ “communed” with sinners, pagans, Samaritans, centurians, etc, etc. His venomous reproaches were reserved for the Pharisees and others who thought that they were rightous elite and had the “inside line” to God based on their birthright or obscession with obeying the Law (including those they developed for themselves).

Consider if you want to stand between myself and Jesus and tell me that I am unworthy to participate - because that is the way I see it.
 
Anglo,

Of course you’re welcome to be in full communion with the Church of Christ. But without fully immersing yourself in it, you’re not “actually” in communion, and no matter what you feel, you’re still witholding something. By staying outside the fold–that wishes you and everyone else to join–you are telling a “lie.” I don’t think you’re being consciously obstinate or “lying” per se, obviously, but it sounds like you’re trying to have it all ways.
 
CD4 said:
<<<Of course, just for fun, you can always shout out “not worthy” at the appropriate time of the Euch prayer.>>>

**Humbly, of course 🙂 **

But of course. There’s nobody humbler.
 
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