Non Catholics - what are the doubts you have about your religion

  • Thread starter Thread starter ConfusedTim
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
ConfusedTim said:
In repsonse to another poster i have doubts about the following in relation to my faith:
  • the fact that homosexuality has been singled out for attention whne in fact i dont think it was even referred to in the new testament
  • the fact that priests arent allowed to marry
  • the focus on sexual behaviour between married couples
to name a few…
Click to expand...
For a survey of homosexuality in the new testament, read the first chapters of Romans. Paul attended roman orgies…
 
ConfusedTim said:
i am the original poster and i wasnt attempting to bait anyone. As i said in my post we ALL have doubts about what we believe and i was merely trying to understand what those are from a non catholic point of view.

In repsonse to another poster i have doubts about the following in relation to my faith:
  • the fact that homosexuality has been singled out for attention whne in fact i dont think it was even referred to in the new testament
  • the fact that priests arent allowed to marry
  • the focus on sexual behaviour between married couples
to name a few…
Click to expand...
Thanks, Tim.
As promised:
  • the fact that Lutherans do not universally reserve the consecrated host, and that the
    Eucharist is not universally offered at every service.
  • the fact that my synod (LCMS) is not doing more toward reconciliation with Rome
  • the fact that my synod has not signed on to the JDDJ.
to name a few…also…

Jon
 
JonNC said:
Thanks, Tim.
As promised:
  • the fact that Lutherans do not universally reserve the consecrated host, and that the
    Eucharist is not universally offered at every service.
  • the fact that my synod (LCMS) is not doing more toward reconciliation with Rome
  • the fact that my synod has not signed on to the JDDJ.
to name a few…also…

Jon
Click to expand...
Jon

I pray you make that final step…
 
I have doubts about the wisdom of Episcopalians attempting to hold together such very divergent branches of itself. I’m new so perhaps I don’t know enough. I’m told that as TEC, we are to argue during the week, and come together on Sunday, but the rancor seems to be getting out of hand, and I’m not sure the two major sides can be reconciled. I hope they can, but have my doubts.
 
geometer said:
For a survey of homosexuality in the new testament, read the first chapters of Romans. Paul attended roman orgies…
Click to expand...
Prove it.

I am so tired of people stating their opinion as fact.

Concerning homosexuality read Romans chapter 1 for a clear example.

For Paul’s struggle with sin is found in Romans 7:13–20
 
Ginger2 said:
Prove it.

I am so tired of people stating their opinion as fact.
Click to expand...
Poor, poor thing, poor, poor thing… Life is so, serious, and you are the only one who knows it…

Poor, poor, thing…
 
ConfusedTim said:
we all have doubts lets fact it - nothing is perfect and what i want to know is what do you doubt about your religion or theology?
Click to expand...
Tim no one will ever be able to convince me that GOD doesn’t exist. But sometimes I honestly wonder if Jesus really existed. As much as I hate to say that I also have to be honest and seek edification from my brothers and sisters in Christ. I tend to be a skeptic at heart so maybe it’s not so much doubt about Jesus’ existence as much as are we doing the right thing. Meaning is Christianity the absolute only way to achieve eternal life with GOD?? If Jesus wasn’t who HE claimed to be then we’re in direct violation of the 1st commandment. But I pray to GOD always for guidance and the thought of rejecting Christ literally makes me sick to my stomach. So I have to think deep down GOD has extended HIS wonderful grace to me. Not sure if this is what you are looking for but I’m being brutally honest.

PEACE
 
Non Catholics - what are the doubts you have about your religion
Click to expand...
At the risk of being presumptuous, I think that’s a bit too much to try to squeeze into one thread. (To put it in perspective, imagine if a Buddhist started a thread titled “Non-Buddhists, what are the doubts you have about your religion?”)
 
geometer said:
Romans 1:21-32

Romans 1:27

Have a nice day!
Click to expand...
No where in these verses, or the entire chapters does it say, “Paul attended roman orgies…”
That was my objection.

But perhaps you misstated yourself and only meant to say homosexuality is clearly mentioned in the New Testament. 🤷

While Paul was a Roman citizen, he was a Jew first and would not of been in a position of power if he was engaging in such activity.

Ginger
 
geometer said:
Well, Jesus said that the way is narrow that leads to eternal life, and few are those who find it. He also said that the sign of those who believe him would be miraculous works, and greater works than he did.

So, I doubt that there are very many who actually know God. They are taking the broad way, along with the other two billion christians.

But, it is not that I doubt so much that people won’t end up in heaven. I believe most will. However, the gospel is about entering the kingdom of God, on earth. As, he said 2000 years ago, the Kingdom of God is at hand…

In his yeshua,

Vincent
Click to expand...
I have this same wonderment aboutthe Catholic Church. I know there are many faithful believers. Why is it that signs and wonders do not follow them?
 
guanophore said:
I have this same wonderment aboutthe Catholic Church. I know there are many faithful believers. Why is it that signs and wonders do not follow them?
Click to expand...
The way is narrow I guess. He said that some would do greater miracles than he did.

There was a documentary on the Discovery Channel about a minister in southern Texas who was studing the new testament with his small flock. They were a bright group and they got to the point where they believed that they really understood the whole of the gospel message. So, they asked themselves what to do, and decided that they would try to help some people.

They visited a trash dump across the border in Mexico and counted the number of trash pickers who were surviving by picking things out of the dump.

They didn’t have much money, they estimated about one hundred people were picking over the trash at the dump. So, they got together enough food to make about 125 plates of food to feed them.

They took the food down to the dump in a station wagon. When they arrived and started giving away the food, a lot of people came, many more than they expected. Each was served a heavy plate of food. And, like the miracle of the loaves and fishes the food did not run out until everyone was fed.

The final count of persons fed was 2,500 and they had only brought enough for 125.

Well, the minister became ordained as a catholic priest and a large mission was built near where the miracle occured.

It was a nice story. At the end the Discovery channel cut to out takes of the production. The priest and his assistant and two camera people were standing some distance from the front of the mission. A camera man said to the priest that they would use special effects to superimpose a large rainbow over the mission.

Just after the cameraman had spoken, a real double rainbow appeared above the mission in the distance. It was huge and framed the mission building perfectly. And, the priests assistant was the only one who spoke. He said something like, ‘that’s what you ask for that’s what you get’.

It was a wonderful program, I wish they would air it again.
 
geometer said:
Romans 1:21-32

Romans 1:27

Have a nice day!
Click to expand...
Paul is describing a cultural phenomenon that went on for hundreds of years in the Greek culture. He is not acting as an eyewitness!
geometer said:
Poor, poor thing, poor, poor thing… Life is so, serious, and you are the only one who knows it…

Poor, poor, thing…
Click to expand...
geo, there is no need to be sarcastic. You posted a baseless assumption that is erroneous, then gave weak biblical support. Paul never claimed to be present at such an event. It was rampant in the culture around him. I am sure that when people came confessing their sins, he heard plenty! Even before he was a Christian, he was a strict Pharisee, and would never be found in such a situation. If he were to accidently stumble over it, which I doubt he would, he would RUN the other way!
 
geometer said:
Who did his research for him?
Click to expand...
Are you suggesting that Paul was at a Rom. orgy “researching” and that Rom. 7 is about his struggle with his own homosexuality?

There are some things that just don’t require personal research. I could say that fornication is rampant in our culture. I infer this by what people say, and the media. I don’t have to observe it to know it exists.
 
guanophore said:
Are you suggesting that Paul was at a Rom. orgy “researching” and that Rom. 7 is about his struggle with his own homosexuality?
Click to expand...
You’re on your own now, I don’t anything about his homosexuality, it sounds serious from the way you put it…
guanophore said:
There are some things that just don’t require personal research. I could say that fornication is rampant in our culture. I infer this by what people say, and the media. I don’t have to observe it to know it exists.
Click to expand...
And, this is the whole problem they everyone finds with Paul, he only believes what he hears. I guess you are right, he was full of hearsay.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top