Non-Catholics, what do you dislike most

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1,2 - there doesn’t have to be any scriptural basis for them. Protestant dogma Sola Scriptura is wrong. Even protestants can’t find it anywhere in the Bible, hehe…
There’s nothing wrong in venerating the Mother of God. She asked us in Fatima to say the rosary, it means it is a God’s will to do so. There’s nothing wrong in asking Mary or saints for intercession. It works! I feel sorry for protestants who lose so much because of their errors.
1, The Protestant dogma Sola Scriptura only ends up being wrong when it used to the point that dogmatic mess replaces sound theology. I believe that sound theology usually isn’t dogmatic.

2, The woman seen at Fatima was not Mary. Mary would not say we worship the same God as Muslims. The Muslim god can’t have a son and we know Jesus is The Son of God.
 
To the non-Catholics on the board–what do you dislike most about the Catholic Church?

What 3 doctrines are most problematic for you? What do you know about those 3 doctrines, and what exactly do you disagree with?
1, Purgatory

2, Papal Infallability

3, Imaculate Conception

These are the main three that can not be backed up by Scripture.
 
  1. Assumption of Mary
  2. Immaculate Conception
  3. Infant Baptism
See? Not all of them are about Mary, lol. Just most of them. That’s not all of them, just my top 3.
 
1, Purgatory

2, Papal Infallability

3, Imaculate Conception

These are the main three that can not be backed up by Scripture.
neither by the bible alone and protestant believe is true.
purgatory is the refiners fire that purify us before we meet God is like purging the stain taking the scares away.
The infallability of the pope is order by Jesus if he had left the Church to be corrupt it would have ended and Jesus promise to peter that the gates of hell will not prevail would it been a lie.
and the last one, let me ask you a question you as a normal person if you had a new born baby would you put him in a dirty or any old crib? I hope not the same way God would not have had his only begotten son to be born to anyone he created a special woman to be the mother of his son without a blemish she is the new Ark where the word of God will be put that is why when the angel greeted her he said as Blessed Full of Grace she was full of grace from the moment of her conception God even mention her in Genesis 3:15 it’s just comment sense that God would create his Mother without any sin for God everything is possible I don’t understand why none Catholic have a beef with our Blessed Mother who is the only one that has keep God’s word literally.
 
1, The Protestant dogma Sola Scriptura only ends up being wrong when it used to the point that dogmatic mess replaces sound theology. I believe that sound theology usually isn’t dogmatic.

Huh? The Protestant dogma isn’t dogmatic? 😉

2, The woman seen at Fatima was not Mary. Mary would not say we worship the same God as Muslims. The Muslim god can’t have a son and we know Jesus is The Son of God.
Then the Jews also worship a different God? Or, I guess it would be that Christians worship a different god.
 
Why don’t you believe in original sin?
I beleive that the “original sin” was committed. However, I do not believe that we are punished for another’s sins. What sort of parent would punish one child for what another child does wrong? Makes no sense to me.

Annie
 
You could say “hey everyone let’s do what we think is right!” but then I think both you and I know that there are people out there who should not have that option. Hitler, Stalin, Mao etc all of these guys I would gladly oppress if that could change the past. Still that’s another topic for another thread.
I was referring to spiritual insights, not social & political! :rolleyes:
 
I beleive that the “original sin” was committed. However, I do not believe that we are punished for another’s sins. What sort of parent would punish one child for what another child does wrong? Makes no sense to me.

Annie
Why do all people die, then? Why did God come to save everyone? Did he only come to save people older than 7, old enough to know right from wrong, old enough to commit sins themselves?
 
I beleive that the “original sin” was committed. However, I do not believe that we are punished for another’s sins. What sort of parent would punish one child for what another child does wrong? Makes no sense to me.

Annie
But we are punsihed for the sin of Adam and Eve. We have to work to survive, we die, women have pain in childbirth. Obviously, we inherited the physical punishment for the first sin.
 
Why do all people die, then? Why did God come to save everyone? Did he only come to save people older than 7, old enough to know right from wrong, old enough to commit sins themselves?
Jesus came to save the world. Anything less than that would be a failure.

Annie
 
But we are punsihed for the sin of Adam and Eve. We have to work to survive, we die, women have pain in childbirth. Obviously, we inherited the physical punishment for the first sin.
Physical punishment - YES!

Spiritual punishment - NO!

Annie
 
Physical punishment - YES!

Spiritual punishment - NO!

Annie
But that shows that there can be punishment for someone else’s sins. Do you know what the spiritual punishment associated with origional sin is?
 
I beleive that the “original sin” was committed. However, I do not believe that we are punished for another’s sins. What sort of parent would punish one child for what another child does wrong? Makes no sense to me.

Annie
Perhaps this will help you understand what original sin is, and what it is not.
 
Perhaps this will help you understand what original sin is, and what it is not.
I understand what it is - I just do not agree with the Catholic Church about original sin and it’s results on mankind. I was just stating my point of view - not looking for an argument.

Annie
 
Mankind being denied the kind of direct relationship that Adam & Eve had with God is a form of spiritual punishment. 🙂
Good point. I guess I was specifically referring to being eternally punished for the sin of another…

Annie
 
I have no problems with Doctrine. I am Protestant but I have no issues with the Doctrine. What bothers me is:
  1. the parish I frequent is very boring, and the people don’t seem friendly.
  2. while this applies to persons of all faiths, I find that most Catholics I personally know do not practice what they preach. There is no difference in them from my non-Christian friends. To be fair, I know Protestants who are in the same boat, but, if Catholics believe they are the One true Church, and have the fullness of Christ, should not their lives reflect that?
I love the Catholic Church doctrinally, but in practice, i still have my issues.
 
I was referring to spiritual insights, not social & political! :rolleyes:
Yeah but if you only refer to that you cripple my arguement!:mad:

…LOL… I get your idea that “if your ok, I’m ok, we’re all ok” sort of arguement. The only problem is that it just isn’t true. The only way I could possibly convince you ohterwise is most likely some sort of divine revelation for which I currently praying.
 
I have no problems with Doctrine. I am Protestant but I have no issues with the Doctrine. What bothers me is:
  1. the parish I frequent is very boring, and the people don’t seem friendly.
  2. while this applies to persons of all faiths, I find that most Catholics I personally know do not practice what they preach. There is no difference in them from my non-Christian friends. To be fair, I know Protestants who are in the same boat, but, if Catholics believe they are the One true Church, and have the fullness of Christ, should not their lives reflect that?
I love the Catholic Church doctrinally, but in practice, i still have my issues.
If the mass is boring, and it can be, then perhaps you really need to understand what the mass is. Hahn’s the Lamb’s Supper is a great book that talks about the mass and where a lot of it comes from. If you already know that and are just stuck in parish that is lack luster you might want to try to find one where you fit in better. Being in PA this should be fairly easy for you. I personally can attest that you get out of mass and the parish what you put into it. Perhaps you could instigate that change that you wish would occur in your parish. Try to build up the parish community a little bit.

As for you second point where you say “I find that most Catholics I personally know do not practice what they preach” I was honestly glad that you did not say “I find that most Catholics I personally know do not know what they are supposed to practice.” I’m not sure that this is a good thing. I would say that it’s safe to say that around here you will find many good Catholics who put thier money where their mouth is.
 
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