This is so sad. The state has been labeled a “hate” state. Irrational. I’m hoping common sense and reality prevails over those who seek to remold reality to be what they want. Good for North Carolina.It doesn’t, Ed. In fact, it’s the complete opposite. HB2 affirms that all males, equally, have the right to the restroom designated for males, and the same for females, and that no portion of each gender is given a discriminatory privilege. Segregation, OTOH, provided a discriminatory privilege to a portion of the population. HB2 is the exact opposite of segregation.
Jon
I think the next meme is the Polyamorous Crowd, which currently “practices privacy” and are “in the closet”, mostly out of fear, fear of losing their jobs, fear of being harassed or beaten, fear of discrimination…in a few years, however, they will be free to practice their throuples in public, and anyone who opposes this will be labeled a hater and a bigot.Back in the 1970s and early 1980s, LGBT people “practiced privacy” (i.e. were “in the closet”) mostly out of fear; fear of losing their jobs, fear being harassed or beaten; fear of discrimination.
I won’t speak for Thor, but ISTM that there can be no restrictions for those on the progressive side of the issues of same gender relationships/"marriage ", transgendered, and the like. Polyamory, polygamy, just about any type of relationship. Even opposition to setting an age of consent much beyond puberty could be a possibility by some. After all, some are willing to consider acceptable intimacy between those under the age of consent with each other. Why not with those who are older?I think the next meme is the Polyamorous Crowd, which currently “practices privacy” and are “in the closet”, mostly out of fear, fear of losing their jobs, fear of being harassed or beaten, fear of discrimination…in a few years, however, they will be free to practice their throuples in public, and anyone who opposes this will be labeled a hater and a bigot.
Are you, Thor, pro-polyamory?
I fear.I won’t speak for Thor, but ISTM that there can be no restrictions for those on the progressive side of the issues of same gender relationships/"marriage ", transgendered, and the like. Polyamory, polygamy, just about any type of relationship. Even opposition to setting an age of consent much beyond puberty could be a possibility by some. After all, some are willing to consider acceptable intimacy between those under the age of consent with each other. Why not with those who are older?
IOW, all limits are off. They have to be to be consistent. If showers and locker rooms are non -gender specific, how can indecent exposure laws apply anywhere anymore? How can public nudity laws be enforceable. After all, there are now open air public urinals in some cities.
It’s a brave new world, PR, and orthodox Christians such as you and me are not only outside the mainstream, but will soon be under strict scrutiny to monitor what we say.
Jon
How can I possibly prove that a lot of LGBT people in the 1970s and 1980s were often afraid of losing jobs, being harassed, and experiencing discrimination if their sexual orientation became known? Being a gay man who lived through that period, I know quite a bit about this from my own experience and from that of many other LGBT people I knew in my home town, at the university, etc.How can you possibly prove that? There were a lot of people where I worked. A lot.
I am referring of the general idea of the North coarsening the South into obedience. I for states’ rights and liberty.Are you talking about the “Northern treachery” of forcing the South to give up slavery?
Polyamory is something that I wouldn’t be interested in doing myself, but if other people want to do that, it doesn’t bother me. I do know some people in polyamorous relationships and I think it’s their business. And what kind of “practicing their throuples” do you imagine might take place? As long as they’re not having sex in public, why would I care? Should I be bothered if someone told me that they’re part of a threesome?I think the next meme is the Polyamorous Crowd, which currently “practices privacy” and are “in the closet”, mostly out of fear, fear of losing their jobs, fear of being harassed or beaten, fear of discrimination…in a few years, however, they will be free to practice their throuples in public, and anyone who opposes this will be labeled a hater and a bigot.
Are you, Thor, pro-polyamory?
You’d be ok if your daughter was involved in a polyamorous relationship?Polyamory is something that I wouldn’t be interested in doing myself, but if other people want to do that, it doesn’t bother me.
I wouldn’t care if my daughter was involved in a polyamorous relationship. If she was an adult, she could make her own decisions.You’d be ok if your daughter was involved in a polyamorous relationship?
And please be charitable to the concept. I need not know if you are a gay man and have no intention of having a daughter, or that you have sons and not daughters, or that you are a 60 year old woman who has had a hysterectomy.
Simply answer the question* as if…*.
Fair enough.I wouldn’t care if my daughter was involved in a polyamorous relationship. If she was an adult, she could make her own decisions.
A reason to care is for the sake of their soul. Even if someone is not Christian they could believe such behavior is not good for a person and therefore care about it. Also, I think there is good evidence that promiscuity and other unnatural sex practices is bad for a person both physically and emotionally.Polyamory is something that I wouldn’t be interested in doing myself, but if other people want to do that, it doesn’t bother me. I do know some people in polyamorous relationships and I think it’s their business. And what kind of “practicing their throuples” do you imagine might take place? As long as they’re not having sex in public, why would I care? Should I be bothered if someone told me that they’re part of a threesome?
I don’t think you could possibly have a daughter and make that statement. Any caring parent would want the best for their child even if their child is an adult.I wouldn’t care if my daughter was involved in a polyamorous relationship. If she was an adult, she could make her own decisions.
Here’s the deal. sex should be either male or female. that is natural.Where discrimination on basis of sex is outlawed. The courts that have examined the issue confirmed this applies to trans people.
To add to this, the church still demands respect and protection for transgenders BUT that doesn’t mean impeding on others rights or that they can do whatever they want.No one is throwing stones. And instructing the ignorant and correcting the sinner are spiritual works of mercy. Encouraging someone to ignore or reject Church teaching is the opposite of being kind.
Church teaching isn’t optional. The teachings of Jesus aren’t optional. Warning someone that they can’t reject Church teaching is being loving and merciful.
And next it will be sex with animals, sex with children, etc. As long as it doesn’t bother you right all is good right?Polyamory is something that I wouldn’t be interested in doing myself, but if other people want to do that, it doesn’t bother me. I do know some people in polyamorous relationships and I think it’s their business. And what kind of “practicing their throuples” do you imagine might take place? As long as they’re not having sex in public, why would I care? Should I be bothered if someone told me that they’re part of a threesome?
That is correct. When sex becomes meaningless, people have trouble forming true relationships, since little is known prior to trying to form a relationship with someone, if one chooses a particular individual. The CDC tells us about physical risks:A reason to care is for the sake of their soul. Even if someone is not Christian they could believe such behavior is not good for a person and therefore care about it. Also, I think there is good evidence that promiscuity and other unnatural sex practices is bad for a person both physically and emotionally.
The “It’s all good” type of thinking leads to anarchy, which is not good for individuals or society as a whole. So, when a problem occurs, who do you turn to?To add to this, the church still demands respect and protection for transgenders BUT that doesn’t mean impeding on others rights or that they can do whatever they want.
Just like the church demands respect and equality for homosexuals BUT that doesn’t mean they support gay marriage
Polyamorous relationships are not promiscuous. It’s not like having sex with virtual strangers since the people in the relationship are committed to each other. To me, it seems comparable to polygyny, a very old form of relationship practiced by most of the Biblical patriarchs, some Muslims who can afford to have more than one wife, and many people in Africa. The difference is that it is much more egalitarian and less patriarchal than polygyny.A reason to care is for the sake of their soul. Even if someone is not Christian they could believe such behavior is not good for a person and therefore care about it. Also, I think there is good evidence that promiscuity and other unnatural sex practices is bad for a person both physically and emotionally.
Animals and children can’t give informed consent, so that is not comparable to adults in a polyamorous relationship.And next it will be sex with animals, sex with children, etc. As long as it doesn’t bother you right all is good right?
Since the rules of what is okay are a bit ad hoc, who said informed consent is relevant?Polyamorous relationships are not promiscuous. It’s not like having sex with virtual strangers since the people in the relationship are committed to each other. To me, it seems comparable to polygyny, a very old form of relationship practiced by most of the Biblical patriarchs, some Muslims who can afford to have more than one wife, and many people in Africa. The difference is that it is much more egalitarian and less patriarchal than polygyny.
Animals and children can’t give informed consent, so that is not comparable to adults in a polyamorous relationship.
according to you.Animals and children can’t give informed consent, so that is not comparable to adults in a polyamorous relationship.