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lmachine
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This limits local LGBT anti-discrimination laws to the employment realm.
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Actually, private firms have the liberty to treat their property as the want, as it is supposed to be.
Anti-discrimination laws are statewide, and this local ordinance was not about any kind of discrimination.
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meltzerboy
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Ah yes, the politics of bathroom use. This is apparently a major issue for most Americans. Never mind terrorism, healthcare, the economy, jobs, trade, race relations, religious freedom, campaign finance reform, income inequality. Bathrooms, that’s where we should focus our political resources.
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Little_Sheep
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Hahaha! I am dying that politicians are even discussing this - beyond absurd!
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estesbob
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It is incredibly sad that anyone even thinks we should enforce peoples delusions under penalty of law.
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Little_Sheep
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I honestly do not know a great deal about what it means to be transgendered, but I do not think that it is considered a delusion. I would have to do more research into how the psychiatric and medical communities address transgendered people. It is clearly not a topic that we have a lot of current information on though that is changing. I have known two transgendered people in my life and neither of them seemed delusional. For me, the subject is a mystery.
I haven’t followed these emergent laws much and so I don’t know what started the hullabaloo. I’ve never thought twice about who was using a public bathroom with me and I doubt I ever will - that’s what strikes me as funny. I mean, how are these things enforceable - do people have to show their nether parts in order to enter? That seems intrusive!
In any event, as others have pointed out, it seems to me that our politicians have bigger fish to fry
It isn’t bathroom use, at the bottom of this. It is the politics of undermining the traditional norms of American society, high have their roots in Judeo-Christian morals and faith. See Saul Alinsky’s rules for radicals.
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estesbob
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The law is there to take care of those who flagrantly flaunt their delusions. if they are discreet nobody cares. We do have bigger fish to fry-it is unfortunate that the Left decided to make an issue about using bathrooms. I think that rather than promoting acceptance of these peoples delusions they should work o getting them help to overcome their mental illness
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Little_Sheep
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I just did a little research on transgender. It is not considered a mental disorder or a delusion. I will stick with the scientists and the doctors on this one!
As to the law and the reason for it, who knows? I personally don’t consider it important or anything that I need to worry about. I suspect folks will keep using public bathrooms in the same way they always have.
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estesbob
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Of course it is. A man who thinks he is woman is not deluded??? It became an issue only when the Left demanded we start catering to people’s delusions
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edwest2
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We are not a part of the we doing this. All Christians should understand that the level of corruption regarding the legal system in recent years did not start with us.
Pope Francis:
“The family is threatened by growing efforts on the part of some to redefine the very institution of marriage, by relativism, by the culture of the ephemeral, by a lack of openness to life,” Francis said at a Mass in Manila. “These realities are increasingly under attack from powerful forces, which threaten to disfigure God’s plan for creation.”
These powerful forces are just as committed to their ideology as others are to reality.
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estesbob
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The sad part is how many Catholics support it
People are welcome to their delusions. They are not welcome to impose them on society. Everyone should have access to the restroom that corresponds to their body parts. That is equal access.
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edwest2
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This happened slowly, gradually and stems from the gradual breakdown of the family that started in the late 1960s. Hippies, Anarchists, Radical Feminists, and others, including some radicals in the Church, gradually poisoned the Body of Christ in the West. I was saddened to watch the media transition, slowly, gradually, into supporting the unraveling of normalcy over the last 40 years. Today, dysfunctional living is being practiced by too many. On the radio, a religious said, “Too many Catholics are living like pagans.”
One hour in Church is not enough. The media is the propaganda machine today. The Dictatorship of Relativism Pope Benedict spoke of is ongoing. Don’t agree with any of it. Speak the truth in love. All those who are confused and those being led astray. Pray for them.
Have hope. No matter what has/is happening, God always leaves a faithful remnant.
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Little_Sheep
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In common parlance, deluded means to be deceived, tricked, etc… But in the field of psychiatry, “delusions” are a different thing all together and they often accompany certain mental illnesses.
Transgender is not a mental illness and is not treated as such. This is accepted scientific fact today. Of course, it may change as doctors and scientists learn more. Or it may not.
I don’t understand the “Left” statement. There are both Conservatives and Progressives who accept our current scientific findings as regards the subject as fact. Facts just are - they don’t have a bias toward any particular political leaning regardless of what Stephen Colbert would have us think!
meltzerboy
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It is the politics of nosiness, which Republicans SHOULD be against since they generally complain the government under Democratic rule invades people’s privacy too much. But it seems the Republicans, in their own way, are also experts in doing this.
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estesbob
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And therein lies the problem .By accommodating these peoples delusions we make it worseIn common parlance, deluded means to be deceived, tricked, etc… But in the field of psychiatry, “delusions” are a different thing all together and they often accompany certain mental illnesses.
Transgender is not a mental illness and is not treated as such. This is accepted scientific fact today. Of course, it may change as doctors and scientists learn more. Or it may not.
I don’t understand the “Left” statement. There are both Conservatives and Progressives who accept our current scientific findings as regards the subject as fact. Facts just are - they don’t have a bias toward any particular political leaning regardless of what Stephen Colbert would have us think!
They absolutely are. Neither side is content to live within the constitutional limits intended by the framers. State government, OTOH, must also live with the expectations set out by state constitutions, as NC did here.
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edwest2
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Cultural change is being imposed by law. We are not the governors or judges. A dictatorship has formed.
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exnihilo
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So what kind of illness is it? The folks who so suffer say their body is mismatched from their mind. Either the body or the mind is messed up. Why would we think the fault lies with the body and not the mind? Sure in our materialistic world the mind often gets dismissed. But this particular problem relies on there being a mind. If a man said he was really a chicken why would we assume his body was the problem and not his mind. Is that really how far off track we are? Sadly I think so.In common parlance, deluded means to be deceived, tricked, etc… But in the field of psychiatry, “delusions” are a different thing all together and they often accompany certain mental illnesses.
Transgender is not a mental illness and is not treated as such. This is accepted scientific fact today. Of course, it may change as doctors and scientists learn more. Or it may not.
I don’t understand the “Left” statement. There are both Conservatives and Progressives who accept our current scientific findings as regards the subject as fact. Facts just are - they don’t have a bias toward any particular political leaning regardless of what Stephen Colbert would have us think!
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