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rlg94086
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Interesting choice…why didn’t they just move it to Saturday? Why move it to Friday and then give a dispensation for abstinence?
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WanderAimlessly
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Because St. Joseph has already been moved to the 15th.
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rlg94086
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Of course, there were still a few other days of the week that could have been chosen.
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Elzee
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I heard Judge Napolitano on Fox News the other day complaining about this. He is Catholic and was saying it should be left on the 17th - that this is an important day and Holy Week shouldn’t stop the celebrating.
Another Catholic coming across badly on tv…
Another Catholic coming across badly on tv…
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Spirithound
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Yeah, on the scale of days, St. Patrick’s Day doesn’t really rank that high.
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Wedgewood
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Spirithound you must not live in a city with a lot of Irish or Irish wantabes. It’s crazy here from the break of dawn to night on
St. Patrick’s Day.
St. Patrick’s Day.
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Spirithound
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lol, indeed I do not, although I was coming from a more ecclesial point of view. It ranks below all the different feasts of Jesus, and Mary, and Joseph, the Apostles, and the martyrs, putting him down somewhere around #164 (my own tongue-in-cheek estimate
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strngrnrth
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I’ll celebrate any day it falls as long as it doesn’t conflict with anything more important. The 14th works for me fine.
I only wish I lived in a city full of proud Irish people and their fan clubs
! I live instead in the Pacific Northwest, where outside a few places like Olympia (not where I am) it’s extremely hard to find a St. Patrick’s Day parade or party. I can remember telling friends I am of Irish descent and interested in learning more about my ancestors’ situation and my friends giggling and saying strange things that I think were references to leprechaun cartoons. When they realized I was serious they said things including, “Where is Ireland? Is it a country? Is it an island?”
I celebrate all teh harder to make up for the huge problem of Irish shame and self-hatred here and the lack of very many Irish in the first place.
I only wish I lived in a city full of proud Irish people and their fan clubs
! I live instead in the Pacific Northwest, where outside a few places like Olympia (not where I am) it’s extremely hard to find a St. Patrick’s Day parade or party. I can remember telling friends I am of Irish descent and interested in learning more about my ancestors’ situation and my friends giggling and saying strange things that I think were references to leprechaun cartoons. When they realized I was serious they said things including, “Where is Ireland? Is it a country? Is it an island?”I celebrate all teh harder to make up for the huge problem of Irish shame and self-hatred here and the lack of very many Irish in the first place.
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Naztakuan
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Hey…wasn’t st patrick English? I’m pretty sure he was an English guy that was kidnapped by an Irish tribe.
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strngrnrth
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Sounds like someone is ripe for a quick intro to Celtic history.
Patricius, a Briton (one of the Celtic people who inhabited the island of Britain a couple of thousand years ago), was a Celt. The Celts are a people who spread out from the crowded mountains of Eastern Europe into Western Europe and filled the continent from Asia Minor to France in a short time. They failed to conquer just one area: southeastern Europe, where the Greeks and Romans held sway with more advanced technology and in the case of Rome a highly centralized militaristic government.
Rome attacked Gaul, the vast Celtic stronghold including what is now Spain, Portugal, France, Belgium and much of the nearby countries, two thousand years ago. the war went on a very long time and consumed much of Rome’s resources. many Gauls died. Oher Gauls fled to Britain (land of the Pritni, a branch of the Gaulish people) and Ireland (Land of Eiriu). Rome conquered Gaul and Britain but never Ireland.
The people of Ireland developed a dialect of Gaulish called Gaelic, while the people of Britain developed a dialect called Britthonic.
The latin word for an Irishman was Scotus. The Irish invaded north Britain, and established Scotland (Land of the Irish).
In the Fifth Century, as Rome was collapsing, The oncoming Germanic tribes invaded Brtain from the southwest: Angles, Saxons and Jutes. These peoples’ nearest cousins are the Frisians in part of the Netherlands and their language was a dialect of Dutch. English is Anglo-Saxon-based. These are the people King Arthur was fighting to expel from Britain. The Pritni/Brithhonic Celts were pushed mostly to what are now Wales and Cornwall.
Patricius was abducted before the Anglo-Saxon invasion. He was a Briton, not an Englishman.
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Naztakuan
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Well yeah…that’s what meant. I never understood what the difference between British and English is since some ppl say they are from England and others say they are British. I still can’t tell the deifference. Is British for people and English for objects? Kind of like how asian is for people and oriental is for objects? People in Britain eat English food but they’re british. People in China eat oriental food but they’re Asian. People in Britain speak English and people in China speak Mandarin not “chinese”.Sounds like someone is ripe for a quick intro to Celtic history.
Patricius, a Briton (one of the Celtic people who inhabited the island of Britain a couple of thousand years ago), was a Celt. The Celts are a people who spread out from the crowded mountains of Eastern Europe into Western Europe and filled the continent from Asia Minor to France in a short time. They failed to conquer just one area: southeastern Europe, where the Greeks and Romans held sway with more advanced technology and in the case of Rome a highly centralized militaristic government.
Rome attacked Gaul, the vast Celtic stronghold including what is now Spain, Portugal, France, Belgium and much of the nearby countries, two thousand years ago. the war went on a very long time and consumed much of Rome’s resources. many Gauls died. Oher Gauls fled to Britain (land of the Pritni, a branch of the Gaulish people) and Ireland (Land of Eiriu). Rome conquered Gaul and Britain but never Ireland.
The people of Ireland developed a dialect of Gaulish called Gaelic, while the people of Britain developed a dialect called Britthonic.
The latin word for an Irishman was Scotus. The Irish invaded north Britain, and established Scotland (Land of the Irish).
In the Fifth Century, as Rome was collapsing, The oncoming Germanic tribes invaded Brtain from the southwest: Angles, Saxons and Jutes. These peoples’ nearest cousins are the Frisians in part of the Netherlands and their language was a dialect of Dutch. English is Anglo-Saxon-based. These are the people King Arthur was fighting to expel from Britain. The Pritni/Brithhonic Celts were pushed mostly to what are now Wales and Cornwall.
Patricius was abducted before the Anglo-Saxon invasion. He was a Briton, not an Englishman.
David Beckham British or English? Is Jk Rowling an English writer or a British writer? I hink I’ll go o my grave never knowing
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Migueliones
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It’s not really that hard
Great Britain is the whole island. England is the country covering the southern part; Wales, the west; and Scotland in the north.http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Fountain/9051/uk2k/maps/map-britain.gif
The answer to your examples would be “both”. Some people have a preference for one over the other.
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strngrnrth
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Well, the word “English” is derived from “Angle-ish”, one of the Angles, related to the Saxons. “Britain” is from “Pritni”, a Celtic people. Shall we take this to another forum to discuss history and geography further?
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puzzleannie
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the reason given for the move in the article is not accurate, or at least, skewed. Yes it was moved because saint feasts are not observed during Holy week, those days have precedence in the liturgical calendar. they partying aspect does not arise as partying is not part of the observance of the feast day, although any given calendar date my coincide with secular merry-making. sorry I answered before observing the thead has long since strayed from OP
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