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Is it ok not to attend the Novus Ordo Missae to show support for the Tridentine Mass?

I still believe the NO is valid but I do not want to attend because I want to show my support and fidelity to the TLM; I choose to do this for the same reasons that FSSP priests don’t say the NO.

I feel that it is important to support the TLM because of the fact that traditional catholics have had to fight for it. Now that we have it again, I want to do all that I can to promote it.

I would attend the NO if I had no other options, but I will not attend as long as I have the option of the TLM.
 
I certainly see nothing wrong with what you are saying. When I lived in a city with a daily TLM only 10 minutes away, I never attended the N.O. except for weddings, funerals, and occasional family obligations (first communions, etc.). Where we are now, the TLM is usually a once or twice a month treat (soon to change - thank you, Holy Father!!), and the rest of the time we attend the N.O. I’d draw the line at, “There is no TLM, so I will just stay at home this Sunday”.
 
Dempsey - if you have a TLM close enough to attend at least for Sundays and Holy Days of Obligation then there is absolutely nothing wrong with attending that to the exclusion of the NO :).

As for the FSSP Priests, they got special permission to be a specific order of Priests who only celebrate the TLM, there is at least one other order of Priests (Christ the King?) who have the same permission. You do not have this kind of permission but you do have the privilege of attending a TLM.

I would though seek the advise of this Priest on what to do about my Confirmation as this is an important sacrament and from your previous thread I seem to recall that you were working towards that.

Brenda V.
 
I’m seriously considering only going to TLM [quite a trek, though!] on Sundays as the Sunday Mass at my local Parish has such awful music and is far from reverent. I still want to feel part of my local Parish, though!
 
Good for you, Dempsey1919! 🙂

Pope Benedict XVI is encouraging those of us who wish to attend the TLM … Let’s take him up on his kind offer and offer prayers in gratitude.

Similar to you, I attend the TLM as often as I can, but when necessity dictates, I attend the NO at my home parish, or another local parish on Holy Days due to my work schedule.

In my case, I will continue to remain a member of my English-language Mass parish because of its Eucharistic Perpetual Adoration Chapel.

~~ the phoenix
 
Dempsey1919 said:
Is it ok not to attend the Novus Ordo Missae to show support for the Tridentine Mass?

I still believe the NO is valid but I do not want to attend because I want to show my support and fidelity to the TLM; I choose to do this for the same reasons that FSSP priests don’t say the NO.

I feel that it is important to support the TLM because of the fact that traditional catholics have had to fight for it. Now that we have it again, I want to do all that I can to promote it.

I would attend the NO if I had no other options, but I will not attend as long as I have the option of the TLM.
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Good for you.👍 The important thing I think is to remember that the Pauline Rite is valid and if you have no access to a Traditional Mass you are still bound to attend the Pauline on Sundays and Holy Days of Obligation. Since the Holy Father has said the Traditional Mass is completely valid and does not require special permission to be celebrated any longer as far as I’m concerned it is on equal footing with the Pauline Rite and you are completely free to attend whichever one you wish to.

If I had access to the Traditional Mass seven days a week, I would go. As it is we only have the Traditional Mass on Sundays so through the week I do attend the Pauline.
 
It’s find to prefer and attend one over the other. However, it is highly inappropriate to use attendance at a Mass to make a political point or as some sort of protest. The Mass should not be attended to prove “support” for a cause. It should be attended for much deeper and higher reasons.
 
Dempsey1919 said:
Is it ok not to attend the Novus Ordo Missae to show support for the Tridentine Mass?

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no it is not okay if it causes you to miss your obligation to assist at Mass on Sundays and Holy Days. there is NOT a conflict here, and if you do anything to contribute to the climate that claims there is a conflict, that foments conflict, and works for disunity within the Church, you are part of the problem, and directly in violation of Christ’s command on the night before he died.
 
The Tridentine Mass fullfills your Sunday obligation (despite what some posters here will tell you), and if there is a traditional parish or weekly Apostolate near you, then you have no reason to ever attend the Novus Ordo again.

I go to a traditional parish, and let me tell you what a great feeling it is pretending the Novus Ordo never existed 😃
 
There is nothing wrong about choosing to attend the TLM than the NOM. That is a reason why the current Pope decreed his Motu Propio, so we may as faithful to the Catholic faith and traditions freely celebrate the Mass that is widely ridiculed and criticized by non-believers and progressive ones. We should keep the Catholic and Apostolic faith and traditions handed down from generation to generation. Good for you if you attend and support the Traditional Latin Mass. Let us pray for the Traditional Catholic priests, religious, and seminarians that they may prosper on their missions, and may God bless and keep them.
May God bless and our Lord Jesus Christ guide you.

Pax
Laudater Jesus Christus
Instaurare omnia in Christo
 
Caesar said:
The Tridentine Mass fullfills your Sunday obligation (despite what some posters here will tell you), and if there is a traditional parish or weekly Apostolate near you, then you have no reason to ever attend the Novus Ordo again.

I go to a traditional parish, and let me tell you what a great feeling it is pretending the Novus Ordo never existed 😃
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Caesar, no-one has said that the TLM doesn’t fulfil your Sunday obligation - the problem would possibly be with attending one run by the SSPX or other group not in full union with Rome, although I’m not going to rehash the debate about it.

And pretend all you like, the Novus Ordo did exist, DOES exist and it’s still the Ordinary form, fully equal in legitimacy with the TLM. You’ve no more right to disparage it than I have to disparage the TLM (which I don’t, although it’s not my preferred Rite of Mass).
 
Caesar said:
The Tridentine Mass fullfills your Sunday obligation (despite what some posters here will tell you), and if there is a traditional parish or weekly Apostolate near you, then you have no reason to ever attend the Novus Ordo again.

I go to a traditional parish, and let me tell you what a great feeling it is pretending the Novus Ordo never existed 😃
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Caesar. The only reason why a EF would not fulfill you Sunday Obligation is if it was by groups not in communion with Rome like the SSPX.
 
Dempsey1919 said:
Is it ok not to attend the Novus Ordo Missae to show support for the Tridentine Mass?

I still believe the NO is valid but I do not want to attend because I want to show my support and fidelity to the TLM; I choose to do this for the same reasons that FSSP priests don’t say the NO.

I feel that it is important to support the TLM because of the fact that traditional catholics have had to fight for it. Now that we have it again, I want to do all that I can to promote it.

I would attend the NO if I had no other options, but I will not attend as long as I have the option of the TLM.
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It is absolutely OK only if the priest performing the EF is in communion with Rome. This does not include priests from the SSPX or the likes.
 
Dempsey1919 said:
Is it ok not to attend the Novus Ordo Missae to show support for the Tridentine Mass?

I still believe the NO is valid but I do not want to attend because I want to show my support and fidelity to the TLM; I choose to do this for the same reasons that FSSP priests don’t say the NO.

I feel that it is important to support the TLM because of the fact that traditional catholics have had to fight for it. Now that we have it again, I want to do all that I can to promote it.

I would attend the NO if I had no other options, but I will not attend as long as I have the option of the TLM.
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i support you. for me i no chance to attend TLM, that’s no TLM at my place…😦 .
 
Caesar said:
The Tridentine Mass fullfills your Sunday obligation (despite what some posters here will tell you), and if there is a traditional parish or weekly Apostolate near you, then you have no reason to ever attend the Novus Ordo again.

I go to a traditional parish, and let me tell you what a great feeling it is pretending the Novus Ordo never existed 😃
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And the reservse is also true: if there is no traditional parish or weekly Apostolate near you, then you have no reason to ever attend the TLM again.

Both Masses are valid. Either suffices to fulfill one’s obligation.
 
Interpret as you wish, liberally or conservatively.
Can. 844 §2 Whenever necessity requires or a genuine spiritual advantage commends it, and provided the danger of error or indifferentism is avoided, Christ’s faithful for whom it is physically or morally impossible to approach a catholic minister, may lawfully receive the sacraments of penance, the Eucharist and anointing of the sick from non catholic ministers in whose Churches these sacraments are valid.
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Can. 1248 §1 The obligation of assisting at Mass is satisfied wherever Mass is celebrated in a **catholic rite **either on a holyday itself or on the evening of the previous day.
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§2 If it is impossible to assist at a eucharistic celebration, either because no sacred minister is available or for some other grave reason, the faithful are strongly recommended to take part in a liturgy of the Word, if there be such in the parish church or some other sacred place, which is celebrated in accordance with the provisions laid down by the diocesan Bishop; or to spend an appropriate time in prayer, whether personally or as a family or, as occasion presents, in a group of families.
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Dempsey1919 said:
Is it ok not to attend the Novus Ordo Missae to show support for the Tridentine Mass?

I still believe the NO is valid but I do not want to attend because I want to show my support and fidelity to the TLM; I choose to do this for the same reasons that FSSP priests don’t say the NO.

I feel that it is important to support the TLM because of the fact that traditional catholics have had to fight for it. Now that we have it again, I want to do all that I can to promote it.

I would attend the NO if I had no other options, but I will not attend as long as I have the option of the TLM.
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As long as you can get to the TLM, do it! It’s only available to me on the first, third, and fifth Sundays of the month, so other Sundays and most Holy Days I have no choice but the novus ordo:( . Before, I wasn’t sure if I should attend the NO when the TLM wasn’t available, but a trusted priest said that I have an obligation to attend, so long as the required conditions for validity are present, and offer it for reparation for the abuses that go on during the TLM…for me, that’s been the only way of getting through without letting the Irish in me loose.
 
Dempsey1919, you’re not supposed to show your support for the EF by refusing to attend an OF.

You’re supposed to be obedient to the precepts of the church by attending the Eucharistic Sacrifice in ANY Catholic rite in communion with Rome.

If the only Liturgy possible for you to attend is an OF, then bend your neck in obedience to the Church and attend it.

To do otherwise is being a schismatic, separating yourself from the gathering of the faithful in the Divine Liturgy.
 
latinmasslover said:
As long as you can get to the TLM, do it! It’s only available to me on the first, third, and fifth Sundays of the month, so other Sundays and most Holy Days I have no choice but the novus ordo:( . Before, I wasn’t sure if I should attend the NO when the TLM wasn’t available, but a trusted priest said that I have an obligation to attend, so long as the required conditions for validity are present, and offer it for reparation for the abuses that go on during the TLM…for me, that’s been the only way of getting through without letting the Irish in me loose.
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Abuses in the TLM? I thought most TLM devotees were convinced that there could never possibly be any. Never mind that the Canon is often silent so no-one would know what the priest says. And never mind that in the middle ages priests who were in a state of sin actually WOULDN’T say the words of consecration at all to avoid profanely receiving Our Lord.

I’m guessing you mean abuses in the NO, since I do the same when attending a particularly abuse-ridden Mass. Thanks be to God I’ve never personally seen anything that would lead me to question the validity of a Mass I’ve attended, but plenty of minor abuse.
 
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