Not enough non catholic here

[LatterDayLady]

What is your take on the former LDS-now Catholics like myself?

There seems to be more of that variety, (myself included) than the variety you are an example of? (former Catholic now LDS?)

Hey, I’m all about the 11th Article of Faith It’s all good!

 

[guanophore]

Perhaps they don’t hang around here because there’s a clause in the Rules which prevents preaching anything that isn’t Roman Catholicism. It is labeled “Proselytizing” and promptly deleted. Since every Protestant has at least one opinion in difference with Rome, any of his/her posts can be labeled as “trying to subvert Catholicism”, and s/he can be banned quickly.

That is why hardly any non-Catholics hang around here.

This is horse hockey. Yes, there are rules against proselytizing, but that has nothing to do with expressing non-Cathoilc opinion, or difference with Rome. There are as many so called Catholics on here that have “at least one opinion in difference iwth Rome” as there are Protesants.

Posts are not labled at all, much less “trying to subvert Catholicism”. No such system exists here. Persons who violate the rules, both Catholic and non-Catholic, are given warnings and redirections. Anyone who will not respond to the mods will risk losing posting privileges, but no one is banned “quickly” or summarily without steps being taken to maintain their participation.

This is not a forum for people to use to try to evangelize Catholics into leaving their faith. Such venues exist elsewhere. It is a venue for Catholic Answers to be provided for those who want them. Many people come here who really don’t want the answers they are given, and they don’t come back.

 

[spockrates]

This is horse hockey. Yes, there are rules against proselytizing, but that has nothing to do with expressing non-Cathoilc opinion, or difference with Rome. There are as many so called Catholics on here that have “at least one opinion in difference iwth Rome” as there are Protesants.

Posts are not labled at all, much less “trying to subvert Catholicism”. No such system exists here. Persons who violate the rules, both Catholic and non-Catholic, are given warnings and redirections. Anyone who will not respond to the mods will risk losing posting privileges, but no one is banned “quickly” or summarily without steps being taken to maintain their participation.

This is not a forum for people to use to try to evangelize Catholics into leaving their faith. Such venues exist elsewhere. It is a venue for Catholic Answers to be provided for those who want them. Many people come here who really don’t want the answers they are given, and they don’t come back.

I hope you don’t mind that I have to disagree.



Compare the forum today to what it was in 2009. There were many more heated debates with non-Catholics who were not afraid to speak their minds and ask tough questions. I used to be one, and am grateful for Catholics who had the patience and concern to thoughtfully answer my questions with gentleness and respect. They helped me realized the truth that I need to return to the Catholic faith I left many years ago. But I’m pretty certain that if I said the same things today I had said back in 2005, I might not be allowed here for long.

I’d say that in the past, the purpose of the forum seemed more about reaching the lost than caring for the found sheep. Maybe things got out of balance then and the rules are now being more strictly enforced to protect those Catholics whose faiths are weak? Not sure. But that’s just my opinion based on my personal observations, then and now.

 

[JonNC]

Of course you wouldn’t! That is because you are one of the exceptions.

I am honored, my friend.

Jon

 

[Contarini]

Is it just my imagination that there are very few non Catholics on this forum? I would have thought that this place would be full of non catholic Christians telling us where we have gone wrong. But no, there are very few.

My supposition is that Protestants (with a few exceptions) don’t hang around here because they cannot debate knowledgeable Catholics.

Non-Catholics who simply repeat fundamentalist talking points in an obnoxious way get shown the door by the moderators, typically. They show up, yell at everyone, and either get bored, learn to communicate more wisely, or get banned.

Edwin

 

[gcnuss]

Is it just my imagination that there are very few non Catholics on this forum? I would have thought that this place would be full of non catholic Christians telling us where we have gone wrong. But no, there are very few.

My supposition is that Protestants (with a few exceptions) don’t hang around here because they cannot debate knowledgeable Catholics.

I guess I’m one of the few exceptions. My purpose in being here is to better understand Catholicism and to help to clear up misconceptions about Lutheranism. I’m convinced that respectful dialogue is the best way to overcome nearly five centuries’ worth of polemics from both sides.

 

[gus]

Actually I would disagree, protestants are taught to avoid Catholics as much as they can, because “Catholics are evil”. The only time protestants really argue, is when you meet them up in the street, or attack their systems first. They do not really care much about about knowing Catholics or their culture, and will often refuse to join anything that is Catholic, even this forum.

Don’t cut my head off for this post, I’m speaking here based on my own experiences, and the ones of people I know. Of course, not all protestants are like that.

I don’t know were you live but the aggressive behavior is mostly on the Protestant Side.
There churches are spending millions to evangelize us poor Catholics. They usually get little opposition in the real world.
Unforutantely for them when they try these same tactics on this board thet are meet with opposition.
Some can take it They are the usually the best informed and willing to dialoge. Actually some good people. But the rest cut and run when presented with a cogent Catholic explainantion.Then cry about being picked on.
These are the types who have no qualms about putting Chick tracs on the winshields of Catholic Church goers.
If your here to throw grenades you better be wearing body armor.If your here to discuss ligitimate questions you should be embraced as a brother.
PS I have equal distaste for Catholics who do the same.

 

[Reuben_J]

I don’t know were you live but the aggressive behavior is mostly on the Protestant Side.

This is nearly universal knowledge. I am not trying to imply anything here but it is the truth that when two people meet, a Catholic and a Protestant, most likely if it is going to happen, it would be a Protestant who will start to talk about religion to the Catholic person. Depending on that Protestant, it can range from a very honest and sincere preaching to even downright rude remark. The poor mild Catholic person very often lost his tongue and went back ruing why he/she the target of enthusiastic Protestants.

 

[guanophore]

Is it just my imagination that there are very few non Catholics on this forum? I would have thought that this place would be full of non catholic Christians telling us where we have gone wrong. But no, there are very few.

My supposition is that Protestants (with a few exceptions) don’t hang around here because they cannot debate knowledgeable Catholics.

Come to think of it, I have not had a good debate with a Reformed Christian for quite some time. I thought it was just because my own participation has been thin due to my graduate studies, but after searching for such a forum member, nothing recent emerged.

 

[PRmerger]

Come to think of it, I have not had a good debate with a Reformed Christian for quite some time. I thought it was just because my own participation has been thin due to my graduate studies, but after searching for such a forum member, nothing recent emerged.

Hiya, guanophore!

How 'bout joining me and venturing to the Philosophy forum? It’s fun to stretch some different apologetics muscles and dialogue with some atheists.

They share some similarities with our fundamentalist Christian brethren, in that they are (often) as vehemently entrenched in the “ALONE” paradigm (Science-ALONE) as our Bible ALONE Christians are.

Yet, peculiarly, these atheists don’t seem to see the deep, irrational FAITH they have, esp. when it comes to their objections to Catholicism.

 

[guanophore]

Hiya, guanophore!

How 'bout joining me and venturing to the Philosophy forum? It’s fun to stretch some different apologetics muscles and dialogue with some atheists.

They share some similarities with our fundamentalist Christian brethren, in that they are (often) as vehemently entrenched in the “ALONE” paradigm (Science-ALONE) as our Bible ALONE Christians are.

Yet, peculiarly, these atheists don’t seem to see the deep, irrational FAITH they have, esp. when it comes to their objections to Catholicism.

Good to “see” you PR. Thank you for your kind invitation, but no thanks. I don’t debate with atheists as a rule. I would rather spend my time beholding the glory of God manifested in His creation. Just to look upon the things that He has made causes my heart to sing!

 

[PRmerger]

Good to “see” you PR. Thank you for your kind invitation, but no thanks. I don’t debate with atheists as a rule. I would rather spend my time beholding the glory of God manifested in His creation. Just to look upon the things that He has made causes my heart to sing!

Fair enough.

But I am :crying: about that.

 

[seeker57]

While there does seem to be a predominantly Catholic following of the non-Catholic forum, there also can be some interesting discussions.

I am a non-Catholic, a non-Christian for that matter, who came here to learn.

Books are fine, but interacting with those who hold a belief can be much more instructive.

I also belong to a Muslim forum and a Wiccan forum for the same reason.

It certainly makes for interesting reading and, at times, the discussions can be most lively.

Peace,

Seeker

 

[andrewstx]

I dont see where people get the idea there is little non catholic participation here. This board has everything from Mormons to Quakers, to Jews, to Muslims if you look.

 

[PRmerger]

I dont see where people get the idea there is little non catholic participation here. This board has everything from Mormons to Quakers, to Jews, to Muslims if you look.

If you compare the non-Catholics here that are willing to dialogue with how many there were, say, 2 years ago, it does seem as if they have fizzled away.

 

[Reuben_J]

If you compare the non-Catholics here that are willing to dialogue with how many there were, say, 2 years ago, it does seem as if they have fizzled away.

It certainly is. There are many posters who have been here for a very long time. One would know their views already and these posters are ‘veterans’ so to speak; they are familiar with the forum’s rule and are probably quite knowledgeable in their religion and the art of discussion itself. I feel that new posters would be no match for these people and they won’t argue with them anyway, if they have been lurking around here.

It is the new posters who would be more vocal and these will attract discussion. I certainly was more vocal years ago but not now because I am more the wiser. Probably I have served my purpose, and I believe that’s what happen to those posters who left. I stayed, perhaps not as active as before, because I like to contribute, give my own (name removed by moderator)ut and stick my neck at times and the little argument that arises from it can be interesting.

 

[andrewstx]

If you compare the non-Catholics here that are willing to dialogue with how many there were, say, 2 years ago, it does seem as if they have fizzled away.

I am not sure how long I have been here so I will bow to you

There is a huge contrast between our post count.

 

[PRmerger]

I am not sure how long I have been here so I will bow to you

Why, you’ve been here since Sept 19, 2011!

 

[andrewstx]

Why, you’ve been here since Sept 19, 2011!

And I may dissapear for a time until I can afford a new computer, this one is on it’s last legs.

 

[stevekehl]

Actually I would disagree, protestants are taught to avoid Catholics as much as they can, because “Catholics are evil”. The only time protestants really argue, is when you meet them up in the street, or attack their systems first. They do not really care much about about knowing Catholics or their culture, and will often refuse to join anything that is Catholic, even this forum.

Don’t cut my head off for this post, I’m speaking here based on my own experiences, and the ones of people I know. Of course, not all protestants are like that.

You couldn’t be more wrong. Gimme a virtual hug :hug3: