"Not interested" (dating communications)

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I’m curious what kind of devices you people use when you have to convey lack of romantic interested in a person who is a total stranger. I learn my people skills through experience and this is a new situation. Since I’ve had a lot of rejection delivered to me on various levels and in various situations in my life, I wouldn’t like to treat anybody else to it more than necessary.

Let’s say we’ve got a dating site in our hypothetical. Even though we proceed as strangers in polite company, so we aren’t overly direct and we stay at arm’s length, we do know what each of us is there for, at least in the long run. While they don’t create any “rights” and especially no promises, the implications of writing, replying to messages, having a prolonged exchange etc. are somewhat obvious and there had better not be ambiguity if this is to continue for some time.

Some situations are easy. An outright dating invitation or flirting attempt can be accepted (reciprocated) or declined right away (or ignored if too inappropriate). On the other hand, when somebody just initiates a conversation (message exchange, technically), you can get into it and have a good time without flirting at any point or allowing too much familiarity, this is usually enough to remain on friends level for good… after a while this will basically settle, especially among emotionally stable people. Or when somebody asks if you’d be interested in a conversation, you can reply to such a question as stated, without belabouring the point of any hypothetical romantic developments that you’d prefer to rule out in advance.

What I struggle with, however, is the situation in which the question uses a more direct (but still polite) formula, like “Would you like to talk? Get to know each other a bit more closely?”, a nice, respectful, sensitive ouverture by a nice, sensitive person that just does not happen to win your interest, regrettably as it is. This isn’t an “obvious” thing to the point that it’d make a man sound clearly gay, but in the case of a young and sensitive woman (e.g. early twenties, introverted, on the arts side), I guess you’d better tell her right away that while friendly contact would be welcome, there’s basically no chance of anything romantic developing, ever.

(For the record my actual reasons here are that she just doesn’t do it for me, plus there’s a fundamental disagreement on contraception, even though she’s a practicing person involved in ministry, so not your typical “cafeteria” case.)

I could probably name attitude on contraception as an irreconcilable difference but this could still feel like a judgment of moral character instead of like a reason why we wouldn’t get along in practical life. I obviously can’t really say that she’s not my type or that I have a different type. As a man, I would actually welcome the “not my type” explanation with understanding, but women are different and I doubt this would work – you’d need to be dealing with a down to earth and very secure woman to say that kind of thing safely, I think. Nor can I really cite the “absence of oomph” because if you tell a woman that she doesn’t have that special thing to attract you with, you’re very likely to damage her self-esteem, especially considering that most young women nowadays don’t have a particularly strong self-esteem. But you can’t lead her on and waste her time, allow her to get hopes high etc. So this needs addressing. There’s got to be a disclaimer right away and I’ve got to word it somehow.

In my experience, addressing that kind of thing with a woman is difficult and I’ve got bad reactions to some of my attempts. It’s not like I’ll take accusations of shallowness, immaturity etc. from an obviously emotionally hurt person to heart or anything, but I’d rather spare the “victim” the hurt in the first place. I suspect I would be able to get it over with with a business person or lawyer or government official near or past 30 years of age, but more sensitive types in early twenties are just too easy to damage emotionally.

Therefore, since most of our posters are ladies, how would you like a man to respond in such a situation if he’s not interested romantically and this won’t change, even though he genuinely wouldn’t have anything against simple acquintanceship?

And let’s presume we aren’t dealing with a go-getter that likes direct information exchange. 😉
 
Also, while we are at it, sometimes there is no immediate oomph (i.e. I’m not smothered) but I would actually like to just meet the person, on a light-hearted, arm’s length basis, with no closer degree of familiarity than you have with a stranger you converse with at a party or agree to meet up for a coffee after a conference or some such. While I’m definitely not bad at fishing ladies out of conferences, I don’t really have a clear view of how to do this on a dating site without giving any formal hint of courtship (just strangers with vague interest). So question for the ladies: how should it be expressed to convey the message successfully?

My goal here is to convey initial interest in meeting up and talking (and perhaps the absence of any red flags), while not giving the impression of specific interest, concrete chance etc. but not delivering any “commitment phobic” “no obligations” talk (since what we’re talking about is simple acquaintanceship and not an uncommitted relationship with benefits).

Thanks for finding the time to share your thoughts if you can.
 
Just write: “Hi would you like to meet for a cup of coffee?”

Don’t worry… people know that internet-dating has no garantees.
 
Therefore, since most of our posters are ladies, how would you like a man to respond in such a situation if he’s not interested romantically and this won’t change, even though he genuinely wouldn’t have anything against simple acquintanceship?
*Thanks for your email, Luna. It’s always welcomed to find friendly correspondence waiting in my inbox at the end of a stressful day. You have a great way of expressing yourself and an interesting profile. I think, however, that we don’t have enough in common for romantic relationship, but I do wish you well in your search.
*
All the best,
John


Were I you I wouldn’t leave the door open for a simple friendship. This is too easily interpreted as the door is open for a relationship leading to marriage. At least this has been my experience, speaking as someone done that and then had to shake off a suitor wannabe.
 
Just write: “Hi would you like to meet for a cup of coffee?”

Don’t worry… people know that internet-dating has no garantees.
Agreed. It is a strange world, internet dating , but be as straight forward as possible.
 
I’m curious what kind of devices you people use when you have to convey lack of romantic interested in a person who is a total stranger. I learn my people skills through experience and this is a new situation. Since I’ve had a lot of rejection delivered to me on various levels and in various situations in my life, I wouldn’t like to treat anybody else to it more than necessary.

Let’s say we’ve got a dating site in our hypothetical. Even though we proceed as strangers in polite company, so we aren’t overly direct and we stay at arm’s length, we do know what each of us is there for, at least in the long run. While they don’t create any “rights” and especially no promises, the implications of writing, replying to messages, having a prolonged exchange etc. are somewhat obvious and there had better not be ambiguity if this is to continue for some time.

Some situations are easy. An outright dating invitation or flirting attempt can be accepted (reciprocated) or declined right away (or ignored if too inappropriate). On the other hand, when somebody just initiates a conversation (message exchange, technically), you can get into it and have a good time without flirting at any point or allowing too much familiarity, this is usually enough to remain on friends level for good… after a while this will basically settle, especially among emotionally stable people. Or when somebody asks if you’d be interested in a conversation, you can reply to such a question as stated, without belabouring the point of any hypothetical romantic developments that you’d prefer to rule out in advance.

What I struggle with, however, is the situation in which the question uses a more direct (but still polite) formula, like “Would you like to talk? Get to know each other a bit more closely?”, a nice, respectful, sensitive ouverture by a nice, sensitive person that just does not happen to win your interest, regrettably as it is. This isn’t an “obvious” thing to the point that it’d make a man sound clearly gay, but in the case of a young and sensitive woman (e.g. early twenties, introverted, on the arts side), I guess you’d better tell her right away that while friendly contact would be welcome, there’s basically no chance of anything romantic developing, ever.

(For the record my actual reasons here are that she just doesn’t do it for me, plus there’s a fundamental disagreement on contraception, even though she’s a practicing person involved in ministry, so not your typical “cafeteria” case.)

I could probably name attitude on contraception as an irreconcilable difference but this could still feel like a judgment of moral character instead of like a reason why we wouldn’t get along in practical life. I obviously can’t really say that she’s not my type or that I have a different type. As a man, I would actually welcome the “not my type” explanation with understanding, but women are different and I doubt this would work – you’d need to be dealing with a down to earth and very secure woman to say that kind of thing safely, I think. Nor can I really cite the “absence of oomph” because if you tell a woman that she doesn’t have that special thing to attract you with, you’re very likely to damage her self-esteem, especially considering that most young women nowadays don’t have a particularly strong self-esteem. But you can’t lead her on and waste her time, allow her to get hopes high etc. So this needs addressing. There’s got to be a disclaimer right away and I’ve got to word it somehow.

In my experience, addressing that kind of thing with a woman is difficult and I’ve got bad reactions to some of my attempts. It’s not like I’ll take accusations of shallowness, immaturity etc. from an obviously emotionally hurt person to heart or anything, but I’d rather spare the “victim” the hurt in the first place. I suspect I would be able to get it over with with a business person or lawyer or government official near or past 30 years of age, but more sensitive types in early twenties are just too easy to damage emotionally.

Therefore, since most of our posters are ladies, how would you like a man to respond in such a situation if he’s not interested romantically and this won’t change, even though he genuinely wouldn’t have anything against simple acquintanceship?

And let’s presume we aren’t dealing with a go-getter that likes direct information exchange. 😉
:blush:I thought women were complicated, but some man are too. :cool:I could not find out what you meant…:rolleyes: just kidding :eek:
 
My friend,

Rejection will always sting, no matter how nicely its couched. If the girl had an interest, the rejection will sting. But that’s life- Disappointments and joys mixed in together. You just have to accept that the people you reject won’t like it. You can and should cushion the fall in kindness and genuine care for the individual- That’s always good (and Christian). I think that if you make yourself genuinely care about the individual as a person and really feel all the affectionate compassion you can for them and wish them the best from your heart, it will come out in your communications with them and it will make it not as hard a fall as it might have been, otherwise- unless they choose to react the wrong way. But some sting is a must my friend. No way to avoid it unless the person never liked you at all to begin with. 🤷

Peace
 
Wow - a lot here.

For the first question of how to push away without causing pain: If she’s someone you already know in person, set her up on a blind date with someone else. I’m only sort of kidding, because I’ve seen that totally work out for a couple friends of mine.

If you don’t already know her in person, you may just have to tell her point blank that you can’t see this going anywhere – contraception, not God’s plan for you, whatever. I’ve been on the receiving end of that, and yeah it does sting. But better sooner than later if she’s the fluffy, touchy-feely type. (I’m more the straight forward, just say what you mean and don’t waste my time type.)

As for how to initiate a coffee date – invite her to join you for coffee after mass, if your parish does that sort of thing. I did that once and it worked out just fine. Lots of people around that I knew and could introduce and talk with. Very relaxed and easy.

Good luck. Gotta teach the munchkins 😃

Gert
 
You just expended 10 paragraphs on this. It’s not the lady making it complicated.

Be direct. Don’t be ambiguous. And, realize that most people on dating sites aren’t there to “just be friends” so don’t expect to maintain a friendship with someone who you haven’t even met. It’s not a friendship.

Luna gives you some good phrases. You just need to thank her for her correspondence and say that you aren’t interested in pursuing a romantic relationship with her. And then move on.
 
Guys women want closure just be kind and say I don’t think were a good match. Most of us are grown ups and can take it.

For myself person I usually just say I don’t see us a good match which is usually the truth. I’ve tried leaving hints but guys usually only get it if you are direct.
 
Guys women want closure just be kind and say I don’t think were a good match. Most of us are grown ups and can take it.

For myself person I usually just say I don’t see us a good match which is usually the truth. I’ve tried leaving hints but guys usually only get it if you are direct.
Or they are too much in love with you and DO NOT want to understand …
 
Wow - a lot here.

For the first question of how to push away without causing pain: If she’s someone you already know in person, set her up on a blind date with someone else. I’m only sort of kidding, because I’ve seen that totally work out for a couple friends of mine.

If you don’t already know her in person, you may just have to tell her point blank that you can’t see this going anywhere – contraception, not God’s plan for you, whatever. I’ve been on the receiving end of that, and yeah it does sting. But better sooner than later if she’s the fluffy, touchy-feely type. (I’m more the straight forward, just say what you mean and don’t waste my time type.)

As for how to initiate a coffee date – invite her to join you for coffee after mass, if your parish does that sort of thing. I did that once and it worked out just fine. Lots of people around that I knew and could introduce and talk with. Very relaxed and easy.

Good luck. Gotta teach the munchkins 😃

Gert
Oh, I’m sorry, I need to clarify one thing, it seems: The light-hearted invitation was something I need for dating website scenarios, just like the “rejection”. In “real life”, I just ask how about a coffee or simply ask the phone number and then things either work out or not. But I have a bit of a problem with dating websites in this regard because offline, people theoretically don’t even know if you’re single/available/interested, so this is just social intereaction. I’m looking for ways to handle it online without making it look like a relationship overture.
 
All right, thanked her for the message, replied that I’d have absolutely nothing against a friendly conversation but that that was the only direction in which I could see it going, which I felt obliged to say due to respect for her time but I wholeheartedly wished her luck in the search. Let’s see where this goes. As I said in the beginning, I tend to get negative responses in such situations but heh, I can understand that.
 
Oh boy! This is a great opportunity for you to tell her what others have told you. This is payback time. There should be no mercy. Target the core of her heart and make sure not to miss it. Others didn’t miss your heart so I don’t see why you should miss this one. This is huge! 😛 😛
 
All right, thanked her for the message, replied that I’d have absolutely nothing against a friendly conversation but that that was the only direction in which I could see it going, which I felt obliged to say due to respect for her time but I wholeheartedly wished her luck in the search. Let’s see where this goes. As I said in the beginning, I tend to get negative responses in such situations but heh, I can understand that.
Too bad dude! :mad: 😛
 
Therefore, since most of our posters are ladies, how would you like a man to respond in such a situation if he’s not interested romantically and this won’t change, even though he genuinely wouldn’t have anything against simple acquintanceship?
I would like the man to be straight-forward, honest, and bold. This is why I say that each of us women are unique just like everybody else. 🤷
 
Dear Chevalier,

Blessings on your day. :angel1: You are obviously a very caring and considerate person who wants to do the right thing, and you’ve given considerable thought to your questions. I really wish you well.

I hope you don’t mind some gentle, well meant (name removed by moderator)ut from a young grandmother born in a previous century and from the “Old School.” Just some general notes for anyone worrying about how to act courteously, (online or real face to face time.)

Someone joked recently that five years from now, universities will offer classes in “Eye Contact.” Online dating? All this angst over simple introductions (or turning down someone in a chat room?) Have human interactions really come down to this?!!! Heavens!

As women outnumber men at least three to one, I would advise young Catholic singles to put their computers down and run, do not walk, to their nearest parish singles event/dinner/gala and give a real young lady (or young man) a chance outside of Cyberspace!

As to your question: I wonder if the reason for the lack of interest in the presumed young lady involves her online photograph, her list of "likes and dislikes, or both? Either way, please allow yourself some fresh air, some real- time introductions the old -fashioned way: church events, volunteering, (whereby you might meet an aging aunt of a nice young lady) or just let time take it’s course. Enlarging a circle of friends may lead to other introductions far more satisfying that anything found “online.”

Where to meet the nice young people in real earth time? They’re everywhere: eating lunch alone, volunteering at hospitals, working the coffee and donuts after Mass, at libraries, laundromats, grocery stores, teaching children’s church, babysitting for in-laws, college, grad school, night school, and at Mass.

Someone as considerate of other people’s feelings as you are should have no trouble finding equally gracious people with which to associate. I say unplug the computer awhile and enjoy some face- to- face conversation. In any case, when not interested in another person for whatever reason, (in person or via the computer keyboard,) etiquette demands only brevity and compassion. A simple “Unfortunately for me, I can’t.” should suffice. If someone demands more, silence will work wonders. I imagine though, that many real world, face- to- face interactions will lead to friendships that may surprise you, and one never knows whom one will meet through a good friend, an aging aunt or wise elder.* “Only connect”* said E.M. Forster, and I think he must have been right, and certainly meant that we should meet out in the world.

Best wishes,
Kathryn Ann
 
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Dear Chevalier,

Blessings on your day. :angel1: You are obviously a very caring and considerate person who wants to do the right thing, and you’ve given considerable thought to your questions. I really wish you well.

I hope you don’t mind some gentle, well meant (name removed by moderator)ut from a young grandmother born in a previous century and from the “Old School.” Just some general notes for anyone worrying about how to act courteously, (online or real face to face time.)

Someone joked recently that five years from now, universities will offer classes in “Eye Contact.” Online dating? All this angst over simple introductions (or turning down someone in a chat room?) Have human interactions really come down to this?!!! Heavens!

As women outnumber men at least three to one, I would advise young Catholic singles to put their computers down and run, do not walk, to their nearest parish singles event/dinner/gala and give a real young lady (or young man) a chance outside of Cyberspace!

As to your question: I wonder if the reason for the lack of interest in the presumed young lady involves her online photograph, her list of "likes and dislikes, or both? Either way, please allow yourself some fresh air, some real- time introductions the old -fashioned way: church events, volunteering, (whereby you might meet an aging aunt of a nice young lady) or just let time take it’s course. Enlarging a circle of friends may lead to other introductions far more satisfying that anything found “online.”

Where to meet the nice young people in real earth time? They’re everywhere: eating lunch alone, volunteering at hospitals, working the coffee and donuts after Mass, at libraries, laundromats, grocery stores, teaching children’s church, babysitting for in-laws, college, grad school, night school, and at Mass.

Someone as considerate of other people’s feelings as you are should have no trouble finding equally gracious people with which to associate. I say unplug the computer awhile and enjoy some face- to- face conversation. In any case, when not interested in another person for whatever reason, (in person or via the computer keyboard,) etiquette demands only brevity and compassion. A simple “Unfortunately for me, I can’t.” should suffice. If someone demands more, silence will work wonders. I imagine though, that many real world, face- to- face interactions will lead to friendships that may surprise you, and one never knows whom one will meet through a good friend, an aging aunt or wise elder.* “Only connect”* said E.M. Forster, and I think he must have been right, and certainly meant that we should meet out in the world.

Best wishes,
Kathryn Ann
👍 What a good post.
You are definately right… I think many of us on CAF (and don’t you deny it guys, I see you all on here as often as I am here, which is also too often) are letting cyper space become too much a comfortable way of life… its a very boring tendency indeed.

As for me, I also have a profile somewhere on the internet… but as I see it, internet dating must never take the place of going out and meeting people in real life as a first method, unless you live in the middle of nowhere (eg. on an oil platform ).
besides… I think most women and men prefer to meet their coming spouse riding through the woods on a horse instead of surfing the internet.
 
I would like the man to be straight-forward, honest, and bold. This is why I say that each of us women are unique just like everybody else. 🤷
That’s how I like to do it (just watch me around an attractive lady that says she doesn’t have any plans for the coming hour or two…), but the problem with being bold is that it creates a big impression. It isn’t a case solver, but it constitutes some form of declaration on the man’s part and is likely to attract the woman towards whom he exhibits this boldness. Or maybe I’m too afraid of hurting somebody.
 
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