Hey, you’re doing better than I. I had most of the Catholic hymns and some Bach’s Little Preludes and Fugues down pat on the organ 20 years ago, had lots of encouragement from friends, but got turned before I could even audition. Most churches then were into pianos and guitars and I got turned off myself, never being able to regain that so-called spirit. Without the daily practice, musical instrument atrophy develops quite fast.
its a matter of people choosing where they’re comfortable at. the Church gave us the option, why can’t we choose?
why not? i receive Christ the same. i’ll be worried about my faith if i think standing and a lay woman can diminish Christ.
they’re not there for you, so they don’t have to show their internal reverence to you. why do you demand it from other people, its something that is not for you.
Errr … at that time, he really was just feeding hungry people. With ordinary food, miraculously produced.
No one, save God the Father Himself, I suppose, can diminish Christ. By changing over to CITH we have lost an opportunity to express humility before God and man in the presence of Jesus.
Again, you presume that Catholics are ignorant of Who they are receiving!
It is well-known throughout the scriptures that God opposes the proud man. One should be careful as he looks in that judgmental mirror.
This is the part where I have to jump in. Do we know the mind of God?
Well, if it’s God in the Host, why change to CITH? We’re supposed to propitiate Him in the Mass, then someone decides it’d be good if He was handed out by laymen, to laymen, standing up. That’s an improvement, how …?Again, you presume that Catholics are ignorant of Who they are receiving!
It is well-known throughout the scriptures that God opposes the proud man. One should be careful as he looks in that judgmental mirror.
Rev. 12:10 Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say: “Now have salvation and power come, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Anointed. For the accuser of our brothers is cast out, who accuses them before our God day and night.”
Errr … we have 2000 years of tradition, revelations, the works of Saints, the Bible. I’d say we have a pretty good idea.
OK. Since you know what God likes in a ritual, I guess I’d better just quit receiving CITH.
But God wants us to retch when we see innovations in His church by people who apparently have too much time on their hands, no pun intended? COTT was the accepted and only practice in the Latin Rite for over a thousand years save for some religious orders perhaps. What got into their heads suddenly that it wasn’t good enough, that it must be changed into a more casual nature even if it were to lead to certain undermining of their faith? Where are the great fruits of this practice? Don’t you think it would have been universally granted by the Church and enthusiastically supported by the Popes if it were that good? Why are there such strict conditions attached, which, by the way, are basically ignored or conveniently brushed aside because the practice has now become de facto the “norm”?
But you don’t have to, you see. Don’t watch. It’s quite simple. Shouldn’t you be praying during Communion anyway?
Reminds me of the Story of the Nun who asked her third graders to draw a picture of anything they wanted. She stopped by one girl and asked what she was drawing. She said “a picture of God” The Nun said"but honey, no one knows what God looks like" The Girl replied “well they will when Im finished”.OK. Since you know what God likes in a ritual, I guess I’d better just quit receiving CITH.
You evidently missed my point, I’m afraid. I was responding to the claim that receiving Communion in the hand says, “I don’t need you to feed me, I can do it myself,” whereas receiving on the tongue supposedly doesn’t. My point is that, although I guess everyone’s entitled to his opinion about how it “feels” to him, there no innate difference along those lines. When Jesus fed the multitudes, he did not place the food in their mouths, but it was still Jesus who was feeding them, and not themselves.
You seem like a reasonable guy so I’ll respond to you.
That’s quite a story.
I can see why this is so personal. When we are brought up being taught that there is only one way something is to be done, and that our very eternal souls depend on us doing it right, it’s hard to consider negotiating with the process when all of a sudden it changes.The more issues like this come up, from standards of dress to COTT vs CITH to liturgical experimentation and abuses, the more that your simple statement really seems like the only real antidote.
Why don’t we have the prone position? Well, one reason that strikes me most Sundays is because I hear Eucharistic Prayer II prayed at the majority of Sunday Masses. In that prayer, we pray " we stand in Your presence". That kind of doesn’t make sense to me, as those of us in the U.S. are, presumably, kneeling at that time.
nor the Apostles for that matter