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I have been talking to a man. He has been married twice. Cradle Catholic but no catechism. He divorced the 1st wife. 2nd wife died about 3 years ago. It’s my understanding that the 1st marriage is the one that will cause problems. He did not talk to the Church nor have that marriage blessed. It’s my understanding that it was a civil ceremony. Broke up because she cheated. Need some advice as I discern a relationship with him.
 
I have been talking to a man. He has been married twice. Cradle Catholic but no catechism. He divorced the 1st wife. 2nd wife died about 3 years ago. It’s my understanding that the 1st marriage is the one that will cause problems. He did not talk to the Church nor have that marriage blessed. It’s my understanding that it was a civil ceremony. Broke up because she cheated. Need some advice as I discern a relationship with him.
Just speaking about the legalistic stuff here:

I assume you desire to marry this man in the Catholic Church. If that is true, then the Church assumes that his first marriage is in fact a marriage unless a ruling can be made otherwise (an annulment). And, if a person is currently married (which is what the Church assumes about this man you are talking to), they are not free to marry another person.

In the case of this first marriage, however, it should be easy to show that his attempt at marriage was not valid due to “lack of form.” This comes from not being married in the Church.

He will have to have the marriage annulled before you can marry him in the Church. It is the desire of the Church that the annulment process be a source of healing so as to help avoid a repeat divorce. And, it turns out that healing emotional wounds is not a painless process, so some people do refuse to participate in the annulment process. Also, other things can come as a surprise to people during the annulment process - such as being told that cheating - in and of itself - is not a valid reason to pursue a divorce. (Each case is unique, however - so this is just a general statement.)

For example, one person received their requested annulment, but then appealed the ruling because the reason for granting the annulment was that the requester was not actually open to marriage since they left the marriage due to infidelity.
 
I have been talking to a man. He has been married twice. Cradle Catholic but no catechism. He divorced the 1st wife. 2nd wife died about 3 years ago. It’s my understanding that the 1st marriage is the one that will cause problems. He did not talk to the Church nor have that marriage blessed. It’s my understanding that it was a civil ceremony. Broke up because she cheated. Need some advice as I discern a relationship with him.
As a service to him, ask him to go to his priest to begin the annulment process. I agree with the other poster in that it sounds like a simple canonical form case.

You can do this regardless of whether or not you move forward with him. It is a service to him that he obtains a decree of nullity, regardless of what happens between you two.
 
I have been talking to a man. He has been married twice. Cradle Catholic but no catechism. He divorced the 1st wife. 2nd wife died about 3 years ago. It’s my understanding that the 1st marriage is the one that will cause problems. He did not talk to the Church nor have that marriage blessed. It’s my understanding that it was a civil ceremony. Broke up because she cheated. Need some advice as I discern a relationship with him.
The best course of action is for the man to sit down and talk to his pastor. He should determine his freedom to marry before becoming serious with anyone.
 
Thanks to everyone. You answers are not surprising. I really just wanted confirmation on how to proceed. The “nice” thing is this man has many questions about the Church. This is an opportunity to get those questions answered. Any marriage with him would be a long time off in any event. Although he was baptised Catholic he did not receive First Communion, First Confession or Confirmation. I know all of that would have to happen before this went any further.

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