Not the same God?

[PRmerger]

Sorry … I meant the original question of our recent dialogue, which was asked in around Post #1040.

Ah, well then the question was indeed addressed.

 

[PRmerger]

By all means, let’s acknowledge the areas of common ground and identify what similarities exist, as part of the overall comparison. Capitalizing on what we share in common is a good thing.

'zactly.

But it seems fallacious to find a few of those commonalities, then to conclude on that basis alone that “we worship the same God.”

Why?

Why not accept those commonalities and acknowledge them?

Where the Muslim proclaims that God is

Al-Ba’ith 49 The Resurrector
Ash-Shahid 50 The Witness
Al-Haqq 51 The Truth
Al-Wakil 52 The Trustee
Al-Qawi 53 The Possessor of All Strength

what’s not to like?

And on the topic of evangelization, my experience is that if you were to enter a Muslim community with that overriding proclamation, you would not be taken seriously in this or in anything else you then have to say. You would lose a great deal of credibility. People will realize how little you know about their faith, and they will stop listening to you. Making such a claim would be a very poor starting point for evangelization of Muslims.

I don’t think you’ve ever been privy to the evangelization efforts of our popes with Muslim leaders. I think that your paradigm vs the paradigm of the Catholic Church would not be amenable to discussions.

Thank goodness for the wisdom and humility of my Church in her efforts to evangelize!

 

[Mickey]

But it seems fallacious to find a few of those commonalities, then to conclude on that basis alone that “we worship the same God.”

Indeed. As I said before, just because there a few things which may be held in common, does not mean that the poison will be purified. When all is said and done…they reject Christ…and if they reject Christ…they do not worship the God of Abraham…the Triune God.

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The devil always tries to add a little bit of truth to the big lie….so as to make it more palatable.

 

[GaryTaylor]

Mikey your starting to sound like Luther now crying “Satans Son” once again. The idea is to defuse the situation through common bonds, not create mass confusion added to a volitile situation by pounding on the war drums.

There resides a fundemental problem with “Christians” today. Forgeting Christ taught “LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR” … “Turn the other cheek”. NO VIOLENCE–PEACE, LOVE. How quickly that is has been constantly overlooked since Constantine.

And the same mistake is again happening. A repetitive cycle man cannot break but to a small degree in Christianity. Christ defeats through Love not War.

Nobody missed the stark difference in Islam or the issues of today. We are still obligated as each Christian to live “His” message. Put the sword down, PEACE, LOVE.

Stark reality is everyone wants God to Bless their land. The Problem is less than 50% are living the message of Christ, less than the majority. The US has the Fifth Fleet in Iran. Russia in Syria and circling Japan. And by all means lets scream how Islam is violent and they should follow Christ like us? Wow.

Where is this Christian World everyone is living the New Testament? Where does that fairy tale exist? Men are still killing, still heading to war, let alone every other attrocity in the Book. And the Pot is still calling the kettle Black. We have small pockets of Christianity who seriously and correctly follow Biblical teaching. Here is the problem.

And those who “are” actually living the message of the New Testament are telling us how to proceed. And thats in the CC. EO and Angelican Church…And they certainly never told YOU to get your weapons and call them Antichrist. What in the world could that accomplish.

The Southern Baptists preach daily all the wrongs of the world. But then turn right around and promote VIOLENCE in the name of Jesus Christ by stating we need to take Israels side in WAR.

The “attrocity” from islam to Christianity is only in Degree not Difference. Our “Christian” President has promoted WAR, Abortion, Contraceptives, Pro Choice and on a constant basis. Russia…SAME THING…and so the saga continues. Whats next killing the elderly in the name of Christ?

Corrupt men in every social/political realm of society claiming WE HAVE THE MESSAGE YOU SHOULD FOLLOW of GOD. Thanks, but I’ll follow Rome. They have been “Constant” is living the New Testament message of JESUS CHRIST. They don’t have an Army, don’t promote WAR, DEATH or revert to name calling. Yes we know we have all made mistakes, however, not in hundreds of years now. We understand everyone else’s teaching. Its been self-evident a very long time.

NON RESISTANCE is the message. Then the Supernatural Blessing comes. Man still just doesn’t GET-IT! Or they don’t actually believe it, and have some kinda twisted view of what the NT and Christ actually states. And when they can’t exactly follow it they delute it with OT teaching. Its a clear message totally disregarded for hundreds of years. When things don’t go our way, we’ll, we just put the Bible down till next Sunday.

Thats the problem and WE are part of it. So how exactly does this work? Defend Christs message through War by ignoring Christs message and then use some some watered down poison and call it for “God and Country”

Simply Amazing

 

[Simka]

I don’t think you’ve ever been privy to the evangelization efforts of our popes with Muslim leaders.

You means, as in the Crusades ???

No, I wasn’t there.