Notre Dame Complies With Contraception Mandate

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I have not and will not purchased government mandated insurance and am seriously thinking about not partaking in my company’s insurance sign up. I am overweight and plan to drop weight to help out my BP issues, but I would rather pay the yearly fine with a smile on my face knowing that I stood up to this anti-Christ spirit that Barack Obama and his favorite “CINOS”, Pelosi, Kerry, Sebellius, and Biden, endorse and promote.

Battle stations Catholic soldiers. It is time to defend Christ and His one true, Catholic, holy, apostolic church.
 
gam197 said:
So what exactly does this mean and what happens next?
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IIRC It means that while Fr. Jenkins fights this out in court, the school will be due several thousand dollars at least in fines per day. HHS could simply drag out the proceedings so as to bleed Notre Dame dry of money, only thing stopping them from doing it is Christian charity, and we know how far that gets us with Sebelius…

Course there might be a favorable judgment eventually, and Sebelius would have to pay Notre Dame back, but in the meanwhile…
 
So what about the rest? Why is there silence from just about everyone else? I mean if everyone has to comply, why haven’t we heard about more folks refusing or complying? Notre Dame isn’t the only Catholic institution that had this HHS mandate hanging over them. Why aren’t we hearing from all the others? It is a little strange.

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Because ND is CINO. We should’ve seen this coming when they invited Obama to speak at their graduation a few years back. Pathetic!
 
glendab said:
So what about the rest? Why is there silence from just about everyone else? I mean if everyone has to comply, why haven’t we heard about more folks refusing or complying? Notre Dame isn’t the only Catholic institution that had this HHS mandate hanging over them. Why aren’t we hearing from all the others? It is a little strange.
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Who knows? Maybe because they’re looking at the morality of how we determine who gets healthcare and who doesn’t in the first place? Seems to me the whole concept of employer-based healthcare insurance has had flaws since its inception; Obamacare has merely exposed and amplified them.

Just saying.
 
glendab said:
So what about the rest? Why is there silence from just about everyone else? I mean if everyone has to comply, why haven’t we heard about more folks refusing or complying? Notre Dame isn’t the only Catholic institution that had this HHS mandate hanging over them. Why aren’t we hearing from all the others? It is a little strange.

Glenda
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Most are working on their SCOTUS appeals, because most got their preliminary injunctions, heck, they got their injunctions period, only our good friend Sebelius won’t settle for that, oh no.:mad:
 
As a member of the Diocese of Fort Wayne-South Bend this is a local story for me. I have not been able to find any statement on it by Bishop Rhoades. I did find the story from our diocesan newspaper, Today’s Catholic, dated January 3. It lists the other diocesan organizations that were granted a preliminary injunction, but leaves out Notre Dame. I thought they were part of the same lawsuit organized by Bishop Rhoades.

todayscatholicnews.org/2014/01/courts-give-some-last-minute-relief-from-hhs-contraceptive-mandate/

I also found another story in the archives that happens to have a picture of me, but you would have to be really good at “Where’s Waldo” to find me, unless you click on enlarge. There is something wrong with the picture, because I appear to have a lot of gray hair in the picture after only 30 years in the Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception choir. 🙂
todayscatholicnews.org/2014/02/remembering-bishop-john-m-darcy/
 
total_Catholic said:
in one ear, out the other. ND’s actions speak louder than their words. Sorry.
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If ND is truly “CINO” (btw, I really loathe that term) why would we have filed for an injunction against the mandate in the first place? Where are the injunctions filed by Villanova, Fordham, Xavier, Georgetown, Seton Hall, Marquette, Creighton, DePaul, Boston College, Santa Clara, Holy Cross, Loyola (any of them), Gonzaga, St. John’s, St. Joe’s, etc., etc., etc?

The fact of the matter is that the Notre Dame was one of very few Catholic universities that filed. The only others were Franciscan, Ave Maria, Belmont Abbey, and a couple of others who must be really small, because I’ve never even heard of them. So far, ND is the only party who has filed an injunction and lost, so they’re clearly in a unique situation. As far as I’m aware, Ave Maria’s hasn’t been decided yet, and Franciscan’s was dismissed on procedural issues (ripeness).

It’s clear that we orthodox ND folks still have influence, and we plan on using it. If you’re on the sidelines, you have two options: you can support us, or you can write us off. I hope you join the Holy Father in choosing the former.
 
Trader said:
As a member of the Diocese of Fort Wayne-South Bend this is a local story for me. I have not been able to find any statement on it by Bishop Rhoades. I did find the story from our diocesan newspaper, Today’s Catholic, dated January 3. It lists the other diocesan organizations that were granted a preliminary injunction, but leaves out Notre Dame. I thought they were part of the same lawsuit organized by Bishop Rhoades.

todayscatholicnews.org/2014/01/courts-give-some-last-minute-relief-from-hhs-contraceptive-mandate/

I also found another story in the archives that happens to have a picture of me, but you would have to be really good at “Where’s Waldo” to find me, unless you click on enlarge. There is something wrong with the picture, because I appear to have a lot of gray hair in the picture after only 30 years in the Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception choir. 🙂
todayscatholicnews.org/2014/02/remembering-bishop-john-m-darcy/
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The same law firm (Jones Day) represented both Notre Dame and the diocese, and both injunctions were filed in the same federal district, but they were filed as separate complaints. Mainly because of the definition of “religious employer” for purposes of the exemption that the HHS carved out. Catholic universities, among other kinds of Catholic employers, aren’t covered in the definition.
 
Havard said:
The same law firm (Jones Day) represented both Notre Dame and the diocese, and both injunctions were filed in the same federal district, but they were filed as separate complaints. Mainly because of the definition of “religious employer” for purposes of the exemption that the HHS carved out. Catholic universities, among other kinds of Catholic employers, aren’t covered in the definition.
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Thanks, that is some help for me, but I still don’t understand how the University of Saint Francis was granted an injunction, but Notre Dame was not. Is it because USF has won more football games in the last decade than ND?:confused:
 
Trader said:
Thanks, that is some help for me, but I still don’t understand how the University of Saint Francis was granted an injunction, but Notre Dame was not. Is it because USF has won more football games in the last decade than ND?:confused:
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Different judges.

As silly as it sounds, that’s my understanding.
 
Havard said:
Different judges.

As silly as it sounds, that’s my understanding.
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Yep. Which Is why judge-shopping, while frowned upon, is sometimes used.

IIRC CUA is also suing.

Total Catholic, well, what actions they are taking are obviously enough for Sebelius to be levying thousands in fines a day, no? Or do we stand for our brothers and sisters when they are perfect only? Heaven knows Notre Dame sometimes or often is foolish. But so are you and I. If the Government were to attack us for our Faith, would we want to be thrown under the bus for our sins? I would hope not.
 
Cojuanco said:
Yep. Which Is why judge-shopping, while frowned upon, is sometimes used.

IIRC CUA is also suing.

Total Catholic, well, what actions they are taking are obviously enough for Sebelius to be levying thousands in fines a day, no? Or do we stand for our brothers and sisters when they are perfect only? Heaven knows Notre Dame sometimes or often is foolish. But so are you and I. If the Government were to attack us for our Faith, would we want to be thrown under the bus for our sins? I would hope not.
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Oh yes, almost forgot about CUA. They are a pontifical university, so perhaps that will factor in to their favor. I don’t know enough about pontifical universities to know if that designation matters with respect to the mandate’s exemptions.
 
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