Nra calls for armed police officer in every school

[dshix]

There was another mass shooting again this morning. Guns are the issue. All guns capable of firing more than one shot without reloading should be outlawed. And single-shot guns should be tightly regulated with any violation resulting in jail.

We need Obama to get to appoint one replacement of one of the conservative justices and then pass some new laws.

No. GUNS are not the issue. The people SHOOTING the guns are the issue. Since we are a little too far down the road to fix the people, the best solution is to stop the people from shooting the guns by making sure all the good guys have guns too.

 

[_Abyssinia]

There was another mass shooting again this morning. Guns are the issue. All guns capable of firing more than one shot without reloading should be outlawed. And single-shot guns should be tightly regulated with any violation resulting in jail.

We need Obama to get to appoint one replacement of one of the conservative justices and then pass some new laws.

Between 2006 and 2011 gun sales increased 73% in Virginia and violent gun crime declined by 24%

If guns are the issue then why does Switzerland, which has a higher per capita gun ownership rate the USA have a homicide rate of 0.70, which is a lot lower than the homicide rate in America?

 

[Luigi_Daniele]

Caveat:

It has to be every school, including religious and private ones. Otherwise they become the targets.

 

[Ridgerunner]

There was another mass shooting again this morning. Guns are the issue. All guns capable of firing more than one shot without reloading should be outlawed. And single-shot guns should be tightly regulated with any violation resulting in jail.

We need Obama to get to appoint one replacement of one of the conservative justices and then pass some new laws.

How would any of this stopped Timothy McVeigh?

 

[PoorKnight]

There was another mass shooting again this morning. Guns are the issue. All guns capable of firing more than one shot without reloading should be outlawed. And single-shot guns should be tightly regulated with any violation resulting in jail.

We need Obama to get to appoint one replacement of one of the conservative justices and then pass some new laws.

IF it were possible to wave a magic wand and eliminate EVERY gun from the world, I would seriously consider it.

HOWEVER this is not possible, and any reguation would ONLY limit GOOD citizens, not the BAD GUY.

(“Hey we gotta hurry up and do that drive-by before noon 'cause the government says I gotta turn in my piece before noon!”)

Also, we need to look to the countries who are trying the solution you propose: England and Australia. Both have had gun crime INCREASES since inacting their draconian gun laws.

Will law makers take MORAL responsibility for that increase in gun crime?

I am all willing to discuss any solution, however, it has to be one that will REALISTICALLY work, not just fanciful wishful thinking…

God Help Us!

 

[garn9173]

I think that an armed police officer in every school would be a great idea. I also think that the number of armed police officers should increase per school depending on the size of the school.

In theroy, yes. But who’s going to pay for it and who’s going to pay to replace the cop who gets taken off of the street who is assigned to a school? Were I live, there are 9 elementary schools, 3 middle schools and starting next fall, 2 high schools. That’s alot of cops who are going to get taken off the street or new ones added to the payroll.

I can see were the NRA is coming from with the armed security guard, but just like with an armed police officer, you and I are going to get paying for it with higher taxes. At the end of the day, someone with a concealed weapon doesn’t cost the taxpayers a dime.

 

[Fused_Participl]

How would any of this stopped Timothy McVeigh?

How is that relevant? New gun laws won’t prevent drunk driving either.

If we round up all the guns, it won’t stop all gun crimes, but it will massively reduce them. America has repeatedly shown that it does not have a culture of responsible gun ownership (we are not Switzerland). We have to get rid of the guns.

 

[J_Peterson]

How would any of this stopped Timothy McVeigh?

What does that have to do with anything? It’s illegal to own a truck bomb just like it should be illegal to own assault rifles.

 

[Scott_Lafrance]

WASHINGTON (AP) — The nation’s largest gun-rights lobby is calling for armed police officers to be posted in every American school to stop the next killer “waiting in the wings.”

The National Rifle Association broke its silence Friday on last week’s shooting rampage at a Connecticut elementary school that left 26 children and staff dead.

The group’s top lobbyist, Wayne LaPierre, said at a Washington news conference that, quote, “The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.”

bigstory.ap.org/article/nra-returns-public-debate-meet-media

Right, I agree with Pierre’s sentiment, just not his proposed application. Why does it need to be a cop with a gun?

 

[Scott_Lafrance]

What does that have to do with anything? It’s illegal to own a truck bomb just like it should be illegal to own assault rifles.

Why, exactly? Assaulting people is already against the law. THis so-called “assault weapons ban” is nothing more than feel-good liberal politics.

 

[gilliam]

If funding is available, I think it is a very good partial solution. I also think that there sould be an assault weapon ban and a ban on large clips as well.

 

[Ridgerunner]

How is that relevant? New gun laws won’t prevent drunk driving either.

If we round up all the guns, it won’t stop all gun crimes, but it will massively reduce them. America has repeatedly shown that it does not have a culture of responsible gun ownership (we are not Switzerland). We have to get rid of the guns.

The point is that a person who is as determined to kill as was McVeigh or Lanza, will find a way whether guns are available or not.

There is no evidence that “rounding up all the guns” reduces gun crimes at all. In fact, the evidence seems to support the proposition that it increases them.

 

[Ridgerunner]

If funding is available, I think it is a very good partial solution. I also think that there sould be an assault weapon ban and a ban on large clips as well.

Please define “assault weapon” before calling for a ban on them. What do you mean by that.

And how large is a “large clip”?

 

[J_Peterson]

Why, exactly? Assaulting people is already against the law. THis so-called “assault weapons ban” is nothing more than feel-good liberal politics.

Why is it illegal to own bombs? They are “arms” and the constitution apparently gives you the right to own them. This question seems to get ignored.

I guess your right. I’m liberal and an assault weapons ban would make me feel good. There’s no need for them at all. They were designed to kill many people in a short amount of time and should only be available to military and law enforcement.

 

[livingwordunity]

The point is that a person who is as determined to kill as was McVeigh or Lanza, will find a way whether guns are available or not.

There is no evidence that “rounding up all the guns” reduces gun crimes at all. In fact, the evidence seems to support the proposition that it increases them.

That’s because the honest give up their guns while the criminals keep theirs. I don’t know why this concept is so hard for some to grasp especially when “gun-free zones” have been proven to fail.

 

[oldcatholicguy]

How is that relevant? New gun laws won’t prevent drunk driving either.

If we round up all the guns, it won’t stop all gun crimes, but it will massively reduce them. America has repeatedly shown that it does not have a culture of responsible gun ownership (we are not Switzerland). We have to get rid of the guns.

Funny you mention drunk driving because the whole “we have to get rid of it in order to fix the problem” approach really didn’t work to well in regards to alcohol and hasn’t really worked to well in regards to drugs.

 

[Fused_Participl]

Please define “assault weapon” before calling for a ban on them. What do you mean by that.

And how large is a “large clip”?

Any gun that can fire more than one shot without being reloaded should be illegal. All handguns should be illegal.

 

[JMJSHJ]

I would like to think that the police officer should be undercover that way he is more effective that way than a uniformed officer.

 

[livingwordunity]

I would like to think that the police officer should be undercover that way he is more effective that way than a uniformed officer.

That’s what I’ve been saying. We can solve this problem if we stop with the emotional arguments for banning guns and instead come up with some solutions that are going to stop this the next time it happens before the guy has a chance to kill everyone. Just like the “gun-free zones”, banning guns only gives a false sense of security. In a world of unicorns and fairies a gun ban might work but not in the real world.

 

[Fused_Participl]

That’s because the honest give up their guns while the criminals keep theirs. I don’t know why this concept is so hard for some to grasp especially when “gun-free zones” have been proven to fail.

That is why we need massive gun searches. Random neighborhoods should be searched daily. We might need an amendment for this.

Any illegal gun should carry an automatic sentence of five years hard labor. We should also give tax credits to people who turn in people with illegal guns. Bonuses should be given to people who turn in family members, and special bonuses for kids who turn in their parents. No need for an amendment for these.